keeperton Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Max27 said: youll see it on some, in some others like the Optik, the v8 xp, eflex/retroflex, and the ritual gloves are a few examples of the really flat cuff gloves im talking abt I actually use an Optik lol. Maybe what makes it feel as curved as gloves I've had in the past is how much the wrist pad/anchor is floating off of it. Thing's great actually. I see what you mean between those two pictures for sure. I mostly ignore CCM products, so my knowledge of them is incredibly limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Max27 said: The straighter cuff, the retroflex The more curved cuff, the pro v elite Yeah, straight CCM cuffs weird me out, ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG35 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Warrior... one piece, curved cuff, ultimate in wrist mobility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max27 Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 minute ago, CG35 said: Warrior... one piece, curved cuff, ultimate in wrist mobility. it looked way straighter in the pics online, ill go take warrior off that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max27 Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, seagoal said: Yeah, straight CCM cuffs weird me out, ha. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Wow, is that on fully in the overhead pic? That's like a hand strap and not a wrist strap. If I had to ditch Vaughn tomorrow, I'd go Warrior. I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 @Max27 I don’t think a puck would get through MOST modern gloves, the potential is VERY small. However- there is that very remote chance, infinitesimal, at that. @seagoal covered mainly anything I did not. Why replace individual thumb and cuff moulds from impact when one piece is simpler AND more durable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeperton Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Max27 said: it looked way straighter in the pics online, ill go take warrior off that lol I got to try out the Warrior G4 gloves. They are felt absolutely wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max27 Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, keeperton said: I actually use an Optik lol. Maybe what makes it feel as curved as gloves I've had in the past is how much the wrist pad/anchor is floating off of it. Thing's great actually. I see what you mean between those two pictures for sure. I mostly ignore CCM products, so my knowledge of them is incredibly limited. it looks so much straighter in pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 To be fair though, if that Warrior cuff was split that would have zero affect on wrist mobility. Wrist mobility isn't a function of the cuff on the face of any glove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeperton Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Just now, Max27 said: it looks so much straighter in pics Do you want more pictures? Request specific angles if you want and I'll snap some, the things live in my room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max27 Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 Just now, keeperton said: Do you want more pictures? Request specific angles if you want and I'll snap some, the things live in my room. ya sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG35 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 minute ago, seagoal said: Wow, is that on fully in the overhead pic? That's like a hand strap and not a wrist strap. If I had to ditch Vaughn tomorrow, I'd go Warrior. I think. It is... just held on by the back of your hand. Feels weird at first if you're new to it... but you can square it up to virtually any angle and no worries about it coming off on hard shots. Solid cuff so it's more rigid if you take a shot while pressing an angle. 1 minute ago, seagoal said: To be fair though, if that Warrior cuff was split that would have zero affect on wrist mobility. Wrist mobility isn't a function of the cuff on the face of any glove. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max27 Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, seagoal said: To be fair though, if that Warrior cuff was split that would have zero affect on wrist mobility. Wrist mobility isn't a function of the cuff on the face of any glove. what i mean is that i feel the way my glove curves in so much in a way gives more mobility bc of how far out i can positon it, and i wear it super loose. and the curved cuff allows me to push my hand out far and still maintain good coverage of my glove side. at least the way i hold my glove hand and play. everyones different, another goallie could try playing the way i do and not know what theyre doing in the slightest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 minute ago, CG35 said: It is... just held on by the back of your hand. Feels weird at first if you're new to it... but you can square it up to virtually any angle and no worries about it coming off on hard shots. Solid cuff so it's more rigid if you take a shot while pressing an angle. Exactly. Yeah, that a convincing testimony. Warrior stuff seems awesome. Haven't tried any, but man, I really want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeperton Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Max27 said: ya sure! Here's a quick photo dump. Links because I didn't properly size them and my Chromebook is being fussy on imgur. https://i.imgur.com/FtuHd9z.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6p8LA5Q.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wGRZIX9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/UIz37IV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4BYJgnh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/OPvBYLm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/j6ESiwZ.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeperton Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, seagoal said: Yeah, that a convincing testimony. Warrior stuff seems awesome. Haven't tried any, but man, I really want to. I can back that up. I've always cranked on my gloves incredibly tight, which made the Warrior feel weird as hell, but it stayed on just fine the entire time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpawtendy48 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 My last glove was a CCM premier and it really catered to my more blocking style of play, but I didn’t like the 590 break and I don’t like the 580 and 600. I believe the 2 piece has some flexibility to it and helps you flex your stick more when playing the puck, and when you catch it has a kind of snappy feel. Sometimes if it’s an awkward overhead catch it might flex back a little but the puck doesn’t come out. one other thing is if you get a puck where the break is it might hurt a little bit but nothing too bad. 2 piece gloves are not out of style no matter what anyone says. The way the cuff is curved really helps to funnel it into the pocket of your glove is down for chest shots, rvh, etc. I love it and I don’t plan on switching out of it, no matter if you hate or love vaughn, their two pieces are unreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG35 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, southpawtendy48 said: My last glove was a CCM premier and it really catered to my more blocking style of play, but I didn’t like the 590 break and I don’t like the 580 and 600. I believe the 2 piece has some flexibility to it and helps you flex your stick more when playing the puck, and when you catch it has a kind of snappy feel. Sometimes if it’s an awkward overhead catch it might flex back a little but the puck doesn’t come out. one other thing is if you get a puck where the break is it might hurt a little bit but nothing too bad. 2 piece gloves are not out of style no matter what anyone says. The way the cuff is curved really helps to funnel it into the pocket of your glove is down for chest shots, rvh, etc. I love it and I don’t plan on switching out of it, no matter if you hate or love vaughn, their two pieces are unreal The best glove is whatever works for your game... if that’s a two-piece Vaughn... then thats what you use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpawtendy48 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 hour ago, CG35 said: The best glove is whatever works for your game... if that’s a two-piece Vaughn... then thats what you use. Yes, which is why I try not to trash other brands too much. No glove or piece of equipment is perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 The evolution of the one piece cuff was driven by market demand for consistency, both from a shot-by-shot and day by day basis. When I say "shot-by-shot" I mean the consistency of pucks going off the cuff: Under the red rectangle: With a traditional two piece, taking shots between the cuff and heel of the catcher would result in weird pop offs, depending on where the shot hits. Think of this as a knee roll on a goalie pad. It's functionally inconsistent. Under the blue rectangle: Shots hitting the heel of the cuff would cause the cuff to kick back, again causing weird rebounds. These issues are virtually non-existent with the one piece cuff. The tradeoff is forward flexion, if you prefer it. you could roll the cuff forward. Over time, you'd find that two piece cuffs would start to break down and bend back, sacrificing coverage. Here's Price in a one piece glove. Notice his hand positioning with the one piece, you fill a bit more space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estogoalie Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I think the one-piece cuff is just an evolution of gear. It's probably a little more stable, looks better, easier for graphics, probably easier to make, etc. No real reason to keep the 2-piece cuff I guess. Same with leather straps getting replaced by velcro. Evolution, practicality, easier, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTH Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 12 hours ago, seagoal said: All cuffs are for blocking This glove wants to fight you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Chenner29 said: The evolution of the one piece cuff was driven by market demand for consistency, both from a shot-by-shot and day by day basis. TL;DR right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpawtendy48 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Chenner29 said: The evolution of the one piece cuff was driven by market demand for consistency, both from a shot-by-shot and day by day basis. When I say "shot-by-shot" I mean the consistency of pucks going off the cuff: Under the red rectangle: With a traditional two piece, taking shots between the cuff and heel of the catcher would result in weird pop offs, depending on where the shot hits. Think of this as a knee roll on a goalie pad. It's functionally inconsistent. Under the blue rectangle: Shots hitting the heel of the cuff would cause the cuff to kick back, again causing weird rebounds. These issues are virtually non-existent with the one piece cuff. The tradeoff is forward flexion, if you prefer it. you could roll the cuff forward. Over time, you'd find that two piece cuffs would start to break down and bend back, sacrificing coverage. Here's Price in a one piece glove. Notice his hand positioning with the one piece, you fill a bit more space. The bending back I get, but I still get maximum coverage in the pocket area with the LT98. This isn’t the greatest picture and I didn’t have my c/a on b/c I was volunteering, but the pocket is huge! Coverage hasn’t been in issue for me when I actually put my glove out more as I have a tendency not to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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