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Had a few mins to finally post mine and hopefully get the ball rolling. Feel free to add yours. From the poll I made, it looks like we have a good cross section of size 8s across latest brands/models but all sizes brands welcome.

Graf DM1080, size 9, step steel, superfeet

2 lbs, 11 oz

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Bumping this thread. Once we get a good cross section of models I'll throw it all in a spreadsheet and post the results for easy viewing / comparing.

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That's crazy light @BadAngle41! Probably about 2/3 to 3/4 of a pound lighter than Graf DM! Keep the posts coming - CCM, True/VH, 2S, Bauer custom...

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25 minutes ago, dstew29 said:

That's crazy light @BadAngle41! Probably about 2/3 to 3/4 of a pound lighter than Graf DM! Keep the posts coming - CCM, True/VH, 2S, Bauer custom...

I guess if you remove the cowling and the protection, then yea, the skate gets lighter... however on something of a side note, how much does skate weight really matter? I mean they are on the ground/ice, it's not something that needs constant muscle strength to keep it up, like say a mask...

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36 minutes ago, estogoalie said:

I guess if you remove the cowling and the protection, then yea, the skate gets lighter... however on something of a side note, how much does skate weight really matter? I mean they are on the ground/ice, it's not something that needs constant muscle strength to keep it up, like say a mask...

I won't argue it's absolutely critical, but for something like firing your leg out to make a 1/2 bfly save, it is the weight at the end of your leg and would impact how much effort you need to exert and how quickly you can do it.  I'm not gonna buy one skate because it's 20g lighter than another, but the data is still interesting.

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46 minutes ago, estogoalie said:

I guess if you remove the cowling and the protection, then yea, the skate gets lighter... however on something of a side note, how much does skate weight really matter? I mean they are on the ground/ice, it's not something that needs constant muscle strength to keep it up, like say a mask...

I hear you but I’m looking at it differently.

Generally, lighter is faster. If any piece of gear gets lighter I think it only helps reaction time.

Second, and probably more important, skating and movement is what separates great goalies. The muscles in most control of the skates are in the foot, ankle maybe shin to an extent? These are definitely not strong or powerful muscles compared to most other areas of body (how often do you do foot curls lol)? The legs and core generate most of the power but edge work and skating is mostly those other finer movements/muscles. IMO, Lighter skates should definitely help in that regard. Think about trying to run and do agility drills with an extra pound in the soles.

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12 hours ago, estogoalie said:

I guess if you remove the cowling and the protection, then yea, the skate gets lighter... however on something of a side note, how much does skate weight really matter? I mean they are on the ground/ice, it's not something that needs constant muscle strength to keep it up, like say a mask...

I agree w/ the removal of the cowling certainly helps make the skate lighter... but saying the protection is removed along with it is a stretch. I've taken shots to the toe and boot... been fine... and I see good heavy shots regularly. Back when boots were laminated pieces of leather etc, yes there was a greater need for a cowling... but with the structure the composites provide you essentially get both in a single piece.

As for skate weight making a difference... I can say for certain that a lighter skate actually took some getting used to for the exact reasons @dstew29 mentioned. To make a comparison... why do race cars use forged alloys or carbon composite wheels and not just a good solid steel? It reduces the amount of energy needed to overcome opposing forces. In addition, there is a reduction in the amount of energy lost due to the flex of traditional materials... so not only do you need to use less force... but the force you are applying does so more efficiently.

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Here are my before and after pictures.  I wear about an 11.5 / 12.0 in Nike sneakers.  Not sure what the skates are technically (maybe 10 or 10.5?).  Needless to say, the difference was startling.  I was thrilled to drop more than half a pound on each skate (~25% improvement).  Night and day.  Attack angle is best benefit tho of cowlingless.  Look how antiquated the kohos look haha.  I do think the Bauers are even lighter than True.   

- Koho: 2lbs 12.6 ounces | 1265 grams

- True 2-piece: 2lbs 1.8 ounces. | 958 grams

Before (circa 2004?!):

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After:

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@dstew29 use these as you will, there's a bit of an oddity with my one 1S skate :P

1S

Right, size 9 3/8: 778g ?! 

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Left, size 8 7/8: 800g

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2S

Right, size 9 3/8: 819g

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Left, size 8 7/8: 815g

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I weighed my relatively new LS5G+ blades at 150g, and my 2 year old Tydan DLCs at 156g.

Note that both pairs have the same specs, extended outer wrap, extended tongue, +1 size toe caps. I guess I should post the insoles later to compare with @BadAngle41, they are included in the above weights. 

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3 hours ago, Mroy31 said:

@dstew29 use these as you will, there's a bit of an oddity with my one 1S skate :P

1S

Right, size 9 3/8: 778g ?! 

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Left, size 8 7/8: 800g

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2S

Right, size 9 3/8: 819g

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Left, size 8 7/8: 815g

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I weighed my relatively new LS5G+ blades at 150g, and my 2 year old Tydan DLCs at 156g.

Note that both pairs have the same specs, extended outer wrap, extended tongue, +1 size toe caps. I guess I should post the insoles later to compare with @BadAngle41, they are included in the above weights. 

And I should post weight of steels. 

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Since we have two weights for two different Bauer 1S sizes (7.5 and 10.5), I used a rough "equalization factor" to apply across all models we have to date. That said, I tried to equalize all weights to an equivalent "Size 9". Here are the rankings (1=lightest)

1. True 2-Piece - 851g / 1 lb, 14.0 oz

2. Bauer 1S - 913g / 2 lb, 0.2 oz

3. Bauer 2S - 928g / 2 lb, 0.7 oz

4. Graf DM1080 - 1,219g / 2 lb, 11.0 oz

We still need weights for:

- True 1-Piece

- CCM AS1

- Bauer 1X & 2X

- CCM Jet Speed FT2

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