True Diamond glide

[Toobs]

Noticed there’s a new material available on the true customizer for sliding surfaces called diamond glide… anyone know anything about it?

[dustybender60]

It's probably similar to brian's primo or vaughn's quickslide

[Madmedic6]

51 minutes ago, Toobs said:

Noticed there’s a new material available on the true customizer for sliding surfaces called diamond glide… anyone know anything about it?

Allegedly it's the same as Brian's primo material. 

[IpaddyTECH]

That would be good news for true if it works as well as Brian's. That's one thing they've had an edge on them for years.

[Smalls]

Yeah the quickslide stuff on my Iconiks was insane. Borderline as good if not better than my Warriors with a slide plate.

[xmikex32]

11 hours ago, Smalls said:

Yeah the quickslide stuff on my Iconiks was insane. Borderline as good if not better than my Warriors with a slide plate.

I wish there was someone who did a scientific side by side of the material since most of the stuff I hear is from an individuals experience. I've heard brians slides the best better than Bauer then I hear Bauer slides the best.

[Smalls]

1 hour ago, xmikex32 said:

Bauer then I hear Bauer slides the best

Not in my opinion it didn't. For me personally from fastest to slowest recently has been Brian's (Quickslide)/Warrior (Plate) > CCM F9 (weave) > Bauer > True (weave). Bauer Shadow were ever so slightly faster than my PX3 with weave but overall both felt slow in my opinion.

Thats the order for me but Bauer doesn't have a quickslide material or weave so it changes things a bit. It would be nice if there was testing I agree.

But basically if this new True material is equal to Brian's that stuff is gonna FLY on the ice lol. I was amazed and my groin was horrified . I'm a weirdo and I literally sold mine because I tore my groin in them. There is that much less resistance that I wasn't used to that when you go down there is nothing stopping your legs from going apart besides your muscles and tendons lol.

Edited September 12 by Smalls

[coopaloop1234]

1 hour ago, xmikex32 said:

I wish there was someone who did a scientific side by side of the material since most of the stuff I hear is from an individuals experience. I've heard brians slides the best better than Bauer then I hear Bauer slides the best.

When you get enough opinions and try enough gear, you kind of get to a general list of:

- Quickslide/Primo/SlidePlate
- Bauer
- Weave/Jenpro. 
-Speedksin

The pad construction itself is also pivotal for the actual sliding ability, as well as the ice condition too. 

But keep in mind that Pro's are able to use any pad with great success, so the main factor to a pad sliding well or not is the user. 

[xmikex32]

3 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said:

When you get enough opinions and try enough gear, you kind of get to a general list of:

- Quickslide/Primo/SlidePlate
- Bauer
- Weave/Jenpro. 
-Speedksin

The pad construction itself is also pivotal for the actual sliding ability, as well as the ice condition too. 

But keep in mind that Pro's are able to use any pad with great success, so the main factor to a pad sliding well or not is the user. 

How dare you imply that proper technique makes any pad slide better. Everyone knows its the pad fault for not sliding!

[coopaloop1234]

4 minutes ago, xmikex32 said:

How dare you imply that proper technique makes any pad slide better. Everyone knows its the pad fault for not sliding!

If I took my own advice I'd never get new gear. 

[Toobs]

36 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said:

When you get enough opinions and try enough gear, you kind of get to a general list of:

- Quickslide/Primo/SlidePlate
- Bauer
- Weave/Jenpro. 
-Speedksin

The pad construction itself is also pivotal for the actual sliding ability, as well as the ice condition too. 

But keep in mind that Pro's are able to use any pad with great success, so the main factor to a pad sliding well or not is the user. 

Yeah, having tried/used all the major brands pads, I’d say this is the correct list. I use ppf on my true knee blocks. If this new stuff is the same as primo, that’s exciting.

[jerd31]

44 minutes ago, Smalls said:

Not in my opinion it didn't. For me personally from fastest to slowest recently has been Brian's (Quickslide)/Warrior (Plate) > CCM F9 (weave) > Bauer > True (weave). Bauer Shadow were ever so slightly faster than my PX3 with weave but overall both felt slow in my opinion.

Thats the order for me but Bauer doesn't have a quickslide material or weave so it changes things a bit. It would be nice if there was testing I agree.

But basically if this new True material is equal to Brian's that stuff is gonna FLY on the ice lol. I was amazed and my groin was horrified . I'm a weirdo and I literally sold mine because I tore my groin in them. There is that much less resistance that I wasn't used to that when you go down there is nothing stopping your legs from going apart besides your muscles and tendons lol.

See, this is why I maintain a certain level of girth.  More girth --> more friction on the ice --> less chance of groin blowouts.  

Now, excuse me as I prepare for my pre-lunch meal.

[seagoal]

Quickslide on my V9s was so good, that stuff is incredible.  Kinda terrifying at first, too.  It also makes a very gratifying little zippy noise when sliding which is fun. 

To Coop's point, V9s still have a very loose, instable knee block and an overall "soft" build so I always felt like they could be way better.  But having the Quickslide was great for me to mentally realize the way I wanted to play and could actually pull off if I was using the right gear.

Hence, my conversion to Bauer and although I surely have some recency bias, my Shadows seem to me like they slide way better than my V9s did simply due to the rigid build. 

Velocity pads just have a lot of drag that Bauers do not. 

Edited September 12 by seagoal

[ser33]

19 hours ago, xmikex32 said:

I wish there was someone who did a scientific side by side of the material since most of the stuff I hear is from an individuals experience. I've heard brians slides the best better than Bauer then I hear Bauer slides the best.

Again, purely from personal experience. Opt1k glided worse than 1S but 2X PRO glided worse than 1S. Each new CORTECHSkin integration glided worse than the previous ones. I think Coop's list is correct

[Hockeygoalie111]

22 hours ago, Smalls said:

Not in my opinion it didn't. For me personally from fastest to slowest recently has been Brian's (Quickslide)/Warrior (Plate) > CCM F9 (weave) > Bauer > True (weave). Bauer Shadow were ever so slightly faster than my PX3 with weave but overall both felt slow in my opinion.

Thats the order for me but Bauer doesn't have a quickslide material or weave so it changes things a bit. It would be nice if there was testing I agree.

But basically if this new True material is equal to Brian's that stuff is gonna FLY on the ice lol. I was amazed and my groin was horrified . I'm a weirdo and I literally sold mine because I tore my groin in them. There is that much less resistance that I wasn't used to that when you go down there is nothing stopping your legs from going apart besides your muscles and tendons lol.

Bauer was fast on the 1S/1X and 2S pad with the plastic like material on the knee block.  Wonder why they got rid of it for the more jenpro-like material.  

[johncho]

4 hours ago, Hockeygoalie111 said:

Bauer was fast on the 1S/1X and 2S pad with the plastic like material on the knee block.  Wonder why they got rid of it for the more jenpro-like material.  

I think there were some issues with adhesion long term as well as discoloration. I sometimes see like this odd bubble effect that happens to older Bauer pads.

[UCLALabrat]

On 9/12/2024 at 8:41 AM, coopaloop1234 said:

When you get enough opinions and try enough gear, you kind of get to a general list of:

- Quickslide/Primo/SlidePlate
- Bauer
- Weave/Jenpro. 
-Speedksin

The pad construction itself is also pivotal for the actual sliding ability, as well as the ice condition too. 

But keep in mind that Pro's are able to use any pad with great success, so the main factor to a pad sliding well or not is the user. 

Agree with this about the construction. V9s with quickslide were ok but not great, but SLR4 with stable knee block and quickslide slides as well as my V9s when I put the vinyl film on them.

Edited September 13 by UCLALabrat

[Chenner29]

Wonder if the Lefevres went all in on Gamestop a few years ago?

[Toobs]

So here’s a pic of the material… definitely not the same stuff as primo/quickslide:

[dustybender60]

What's the texture like?

[jerd31]

Could it be the same material but just a different weave pattern?  It looks similar to Primo IMO.  

[Smalls]

1 hour ago, jerd31 said:

It looks similar to Primo IMO

To me it looks much different. Brians Primo is essentially flat if you run your hand over it with no 3D bumps or dips. But this to me appears to have more texture to it like CCM speedskin had at least on the EF4 set I owned.

[IpaddyTECH]

hmm, it could still theoretically be an improvement over Jenpro. The most important factor we can control with pad sliding for fiction is the properties of the surfaces in contact. Jenpro is decent because it is water resistant and relatively flat, but that said it has a little texture to it. That's why PPF film works so well; it is completely hydrophobic and perfectly smooth so loose ice and water just can't stick to it.  This stuff looks a little bumpy, I would be worried that it might pick up a little bit of loose ice throughout the game and slow it down. I guess we'll have to see when people start testing it.

I hope it does work well though. If True had a solid primo competitor, that would knock out a big concern I would have with buying their pads.

Edited September 18 by IpaddyTECH

[TheGoalNet]

I posted that pic on IG and trust the owner of the gear very much. Said the pads slide great in comparison with other brands.

Jenpro, weave, primo, speed skin, etc are all very similar materials. It's basically just the embossed outer texture that makes the difference.

[huxleyfan462]

On the True customizer, at least for the HZRDUS line, the white diamond glide shows up as a pretty dark grey. Does anyone know if it matches with the rest of the white jenpro like the white weave material does? Would love to get a better material but don't want to blow the look of my custom set: screenshot for reference.