GoalieNut Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 Question for the group. I have an idea for a new goalie product that I have never seen before and I genuinely feel that this new product could be a hit with the goalies. My challenge is that I'm not in the equipment business or manufacturing. I'd like to simply pitch the idea and not get my IP stolen or ripped off. Has anyone worked with any of the big goalie players in the industry and who can you trust to talk to? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 You should tell me what it is. I'm super trust worthy. But in seriousness, I wouldn't pitch anything without a patent of some sort. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullright Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Agreed....pretty easy to get the ball rolling in the US. Just go to the US Patent Office online. United States Patent and Trademark Office Not sure where to go in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoalieNut Posted December 1 Author Share Posted December 1 Thanks for the feedback! I'm going to look in to doing a Canadian patent first and see where it goes from there. I'd love to have a chat with someone in the industry. Not looking to score big money with this but I think the idea could do well if it was with the right company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravitas Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 Maybe get the patent first.... then build some prototypes, post about it on GGSU and eventually sell direct there? When it gets big, license it out to one of the big brands. Something like that is how Bauer and CCM and True got into the elastic toe ties. I'm pretty certain early Bauer 2X pads had bungee toe systems that were branded MONSTER. CCM had unbranded clones of the Pro Laces on the EF4 and now True/Lefevre has kept that relationship with Pro Laces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpaddyTECH Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 I wish I could be of help but I know nothing of patenting or invention. Good luck though! I'm excited to found out what it is once you've got things going. Just an aside here, a funny gag would be some kind of puck mark applicator for goalies who like their white pads to have all kinds of cool puck marks but aren't making enough saves for that to happen naturally. I figured @coopaloop1234 would eat that up. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indykrap Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 32 minutes ago, IpaddyTECH said: I wish I could be of help but I know nothing of patenting or invention. Good luck though! I'm excited to found out what it is once you've got things going. Just an aside here, a funny gag would be some kind of puck mark applicator for goalies who like their white pads to have all kinds of cool puck marks but aren't making enough saves for that to happen naturally. I figured @coopaloop1234 would eat that up. buying this for your goalie buddies would be such a top tier chirp. i'm sold. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 38 minutes ago, IpaddyTECH said: I wish I could be of help but I know nothing of patenting or invention. Good luck though! I'm excited to found out what it is once you've got things going. Just an aside here, a funny gag would be some kind of puck mark applicator for goalies who like their white pads to have all kinds of cool puck marks but aren't making enough saves for that to happen naturally. I figured @coopaloop1234 would eat that up. It would sure make up for my 5+ week absence from the ice. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpaddyTECH Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 4 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: It would sure make up for my 5+ week absence from the ice. Ugh too close to home, sorry to hear that. Knee injury right? What's your prognosis look like? I missed a full season a couple years back due to a weird extra bone in my foot that broke loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 40 minutes ago, IpaddyTECH said: Ugh too close to home, sorry to hear that. Knee injury right? What's your prognosis look like? I missed a full season a couple years back due to a weird extra bone in my foot that broke loose. MCL Sprain/Tear. Just a level 1 thankfully but still not ready to hit the ice. Typically it's 4-6 weeks to heal and I'm probably going to eclipse that. I'm hoping to play before the new year, but there is a chance that doesn't happen. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalls Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 1 hour ago, coopaloop1234 said: It would sure make up for my 5+ week absence from the ice. Have you tried healing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 15 minutes ago, Smalls said: Have you tried healing? Clearly I need a pocket healer so I can tank more efficiently. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 I had an idea a while back. I had sketches of it and wrote the what/how/why of it, made a small example of it too. Then I contacted the few people I could trust in the gear manufacturing family and they all gave me some sound advice. Of course, I first mentioned that I was working on something and was hoping I could pick their brains and get their opinion. These were people that I knew would not take advantage of me and be honest with their replies. The one piece of advice from one of them I can share is to send to yourself by registered mail your original copies/sketches and whatnot, dated and signed and never open it. This is one way to show that this was YOUR idea in the first place, should someone take your info and do their own version. One thing I learned with the many different ideas I came up with, regardless the subject, there's always a chance that someone else out there is thinking up the exact same thing as you. Then it boils down to who gets it to market first. Good luck. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeperton Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 (edited) Using my psychic powers I have looked into @GoalieNut's mind to see their idea. Edited December 3 by keeperton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted December 3 Share Posted December 3 10 hours ago, RichMan said: I had an idea a while back. I had sketches of it and wrote the what/how/why of it, made a small example of it too. Then I contacted the few people I could trust in the gear manufacturing family and they all gave me some sound advice. Of course, I first mentioned that I was working on something and was hoping I could pick their brains and get their opinion. These were people that I knew would not take advantage of me and be honest with their replies. The one piece of advice from one of them I can share is to send to yourself by registered mail your original copies/sketches and whatnot, dated and signed and never open it. This is one way to show that this was YOUR idea in the first place, should someone take your info and do their own version. One thing I learned with the many different ideas I came up with, regardless the subject, there's always a chance that someone else out there is thinking up the exact same thing as you. Then it boils down to who gets it to market first. Good luck. Could also just have the evaluators or people you're showing sign a NDA ahead of time. No idea how sticky they are in Canada, but, it at least is better than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 11 hours ago, coopaloop1234 said: Could also just have the evaluators or people you're showing sign a NDA ahead of time. No idea how sticky they are in Canada, but, it at least is better than nothing. I could of but it was over emails and phone conversations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 12 hours ago, RichMan said: I could of but it was over emails and phone conversations Still applicable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullright Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 @GoalieNut: do not post anything anywhere about your product before you get the patent business straight. I dont think anyone here would steal your idea except @coopaloop1234 (he's injured with probably too much time on his hands :)). But it has happened where a person comes up with an idea, posts something about it casually on the interweb and someone else swipes it away and beats them to the patent office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmikex32 Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 I will say that even with a patent you can get screwed by larger companies with deep pockets. A friend of mine has stake in Wraparound hockey stuff, they do mostly player training aids and stuff like that. they have a patent on plastic stick blade protectors and Franklin ripped them off. they are in litigation right now but even with s patent if you cant afford the lawyers you might be SOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncho Posted Tuesday at 12:17 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:17 AM (edited) So I know someone from CCM, but not a super solid contact. But I also have a very close contact who's formerly of CCM who is a solid contact who still works in the industry and has connections within the industry as well. She used to equip me in CCM gear, it's too bad that she left before I got into playing nets, I would have saved so much money. I should add that she's primarily in the garment part of the industry like Jerseys and other soft materials. I read this long ago and mulled over if I should contact them. If you really have no other venues, get the legal thing sorted and I will sign any NDA you want and could pass along the message for a meet online or in Mtl if you'd like. Edited Tuesday at 12:19 AM by johncho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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