Vaughn V10 vs True PX (12.2/20.2 spec)

[keeperton]

3 hours ago, RockyMountainTendy said:

Does it over rotate because of it, that practically my only concern with true is the knee stack

I get some over rotation when stretching, but I think that's because I wear the rest of the pad pretty dang loose more than anything. The pad, in Lefevre fashion, keeps its seal even when under/over rotated.

[indykrap]

17 hours ago, RockyMountainTendy said:

Nice, I doubt I need to get mine that curved but I wouldn’t be against it haha. How’s you get it this way any specific method? Also how’s the knee stack is it floppy or still relatively stiff? I know they are more traditional knee stacks and coming from the stabilislide Trues and Vaughn’s knee stacks will be significantly more floppy. But are these too floppy? 

I store mine upside down, so they've just built in a pretty solid curve. I've got pretty bad hip flexibility on one side so it helps! haha.

The knee block is stiff for sure - not a lot of movement on it. It's nothing compared to stabilislide (which basically doesn't move!) but I'd compare it to the stabiliflex and have no complaints about it. These were a college pro return so they've had some good use, but it's still quite solid.

[Toobs]

On 1/2/2025 at 3:12 PM, RockyMountainTendy said:

Does it over rotate because of it, that practically my only concern with true is the knee stack

I have zero issues with over or under rotation with my true pads. 

[Madmedic6]

On 12/31/2024 at 6:37 PM, IpaddyTECH said:

I'm curious to hear about anyone's experience with the Eflex 7 glove when that comes out. I could be wrong but isn't it the first stock glove to have both a 580 style break and a non wrist strap design (the crossfrom strap)? The warrior version of the cross from strap is maybe my favorite feature of the my glove but it's a 75 degree... so the Eflex 7 might be a unique combo. I was under the impression that even in custom Axis xf 580 and Vapor 90 gloves they came only with traditional strapping, but again correct me if I'm wrong. 

Eflex 7 will be a 580 with +1 single t and cross form strap. 

The only gloves that got the new backhand customer were 581/591. Regular breaks got the traditional backhand and wrist strap. Going forward I would expect them to offer the crossform strap on 580/590/600 at custom. The crossform strap was the only thing I liked about the 581. 

[IpaddyTECH]

On 1/4/2025 at 11:21 AM, Madmedic6 said:

The crossform strap was the only thing I liked about the 581. 

That sounds pretty on par from what I've heard haha

[Chenner29]

On 12/26/2024 at 1:03 PM, RockyMountainTendy said:

First are my questions in regard to Vaughn specifically the V10 leg pads.

I shall await your answers and thank you so much for welcoming me here, it’s been awesome picking everyone’s brains and hearing what they like dislike and dream of in this world that is new to me

Edit: This can also apply to the thin stiff options for true, I have just heard more success with adding curve with the older style 

FWIW I'm a pretty biased Lefevre guy.

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My main concern and really the only question now is if any of you have had V10 pro carbons how are they holding up? I have heard concerns about them softening up quite a bit, has anyone had issues with a trapdoor down in the butterfly, or the knee stack being too loose and causing over rotation?  And are you able to get a mild-decent curve out of them? 

The only thing that has me kind of wary with the Vaughn product is the Quick-slide material on the inner gusset.  I've noticed on some older sets (Pre-V10) where the material seems to bubble up or tear - could be due to improper post-skate care.  IMO "trapdoor thigh rises" are a HockeyReviews conspiracy and should be a non-issue for beer league. Most guys don't have the hip flexibility to get the full butterfly flare, and shots at a high enough velocity to bend the pad back are extremely rare.  Knee block on the V10 pad should be sewn in or integrated to the core.

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My question about a 12.2/20.2 spec true pad is also the same. Any issues with trapdoor or knee stack floppiness. As well as the ability to curve the pads a bit more than stock. 

20.2 and Px3 have the sewn in knee block.  12.2 will still have the older style.  Avoid the old slide material they used (FastGlide?).  Jury's still out on DiamondGlide, their new slide material - it was just released with PX4. 

Again, if I'm in a position where I need to be worrying about "trapdoor thigh rises" then I'd be making money playing this stupid sport.

TBH if you're looking for a pad with more pre curve, I'd look at a custom Brian's product.  Most of the True stuff is designed to hold the curve that was built with the core at the factory.  You can probably get a couple degrees bend out of it, but you could risk compromising the core if you get aggressive with it.

[RockyMountainTendy]

29 minutes ago, Chenner29 said:

20.2 and Px3 have the sewn in knee block

Yeah I’d be getting the PX3 12.2 stiffness cause many seem to have great success with adding more curve to the pad 

 

29 minutes ago, Chenner29 said:

Knee block on the V10 pad should be sewn in or integrated to the core.

Yeah I know but I’ve still heard that at least compared to Bauer it can get a little more sloppy, but I didn’t want it to be something crazy like how some older Vaughn or Lefevre.

 

29 minutes ago, Chenner29 said:

TBH if you're looking for a pad with more pre curve, I'd look at a custom Brian's product.  Most of the True stuff is designed to hold the curve that was built with the core at the factory.  You can probably get a couple degrees bend out of it, but you could risk compromising the core if you get aggressive with it.

I tried the Optiks and I really do like them, I like the eclipse blocker and I originally liked the eclipse glove but over time the glove the more I tried it on in stores just didn’t feel right. And I’m weird I need everything to match. On top of that Brian’s is very expensive and has long wait time. Plus a few of my buddies in the repair world have been getting in more brains recently for stitching repairs, or so they say. New models too, so I’m quite hesitant.  As said before and in this thread seems a lot are having success with adding more curve to their 12.2 pads, as well as the V10. I was starting to lean true, but I think I’d be most satisfied with a V10 pads slr4 blocker and 70 degree glove all v4 graphic which I’ve wanted since I was a kid. I know I like true as a set, I also know I like the Vaughn pads, the blocker I don’t mind it’s really the 70 degree I’m most concerned about as I really like the feeling of my vapor 90 and the closest to that being the true. But again I need it all to match, cause I’m weird. 
 

thanks for the advice! 

Edited January 7 by RockyMountainTendy

[RockyMountainTendy]

I have decided to go with Vaughn after help from all y'all and others. 
 

Therefore this thread is “closed” 

Thanks for all the help! 

[keeperton]

6 hours ago, RockyMountainTendy said:

I have decided to go with Vaughn after help from all y'all and others. 
 

Therefore this thread is “closed” 

Thanks for all the help! 

You realize you'll have to show us what you ordered and give in depth thoughts, right?

[RockyMountainTendy]

15 minutes ago, keeperton said:

You realize you'll have to show us what you ordered and give in depth thoughts, right?

Oh trust me once I get the order all done and sent off, I will be going in extreme detail, despite me being relatively new I’m extremely detail oriented with gear so you’ll get the whole spec sheet and once I get them in oh buddy boy I will be posting it everywhere 

[Madmedic6]

On 1/2/2025 at 9:49 AM, indykrap said:

Got a pretty aggressive curve on my 12.2s. Helps a lot! But they are definitely quite stiff up top and not getting the trap door thing I got in my double break Warriors.

My hips say they need that precurve

[indykrap]

1 hour ago, Madmedic6 said:

My hips say they need that precurve

You and me both, my dude.