SideLine Swap Blunders

[Smalls]

Thought this might be a fun place to chirp some of the funny, super overpriced, gear gore and mislabeled posts you find on SL Swap.

I'll start with some of my finds in the recent past.

More like full wrong.


Never seen this model of Hyperlite before.

 

Ahh the super rare pro stock 930.


This chesty has been through 3 divorces minimum.

Last but not least my favorite delusional post currently on SL.

[Chenner29]

Anything labeled "Pro Stock" on SLS has a 75% chance of being a retail pro model

[ilyazhito]

Do pads also get mislabeled? It is understandable, especially with custom pads (HL2 with Mach graphics, or vice versa), but labeling pads as pads from a different generation (e.g. Optik 3 as Optik 2) would raise eyebrows. 

[insertnamehere]

https://sidelineswap.com/gear/hockey/goalie/goalie-leg-pads/9027093-brian-s-32-1-optik-3-goalie-leg-pads

 

These are overpriced for used Optik 3 pads, let alone the Optik X3.

[coopaloop1234]

On 12/28/2024 at 5:56 PM, ilyazhito said:

Do pads also get mislabeled? It is understandable, especially with custom pads (HL2 with Mach graphics, or vice versa), but labeling pads as pads from a different generation (e.g. Optik 3 as Optik 2) would raise eyebrows. 

All the time. 

 

[xmikex32]

On 12/28/2024 at 1:47 PM, Chenner29 said:

Anything labeled "Pro Stock" on SLS has a 75% chance of being a retail pro model

THIS!  it drives me crazy when people label OTS gear as pro stock.

[seagoal]

I also love when legit pro gear with the KW scribble on it justifies, to the seller, a $5000 price tag. 

Definitely a "tell me you're a newbie without telling me you're a newbie" moment when someone thinks gear worn in the NHL is better or more valuable. 

Edited December 30, 2024 by seagoal

[southpawtendy48]

The amount of things listed as “full right” that are not actually full right should go without saying. So frustrating 

[coopaloop1234]

14 minutes ago, southpawtendy48 said:

The amount of things listed as “full right” that are not actually full right should go without saying. So frustrating 

That problem is easily solved if you just caught correctly. 

[JediGoalie30]

On 12/28/2024 at 2:47 PM, Chenner29 said:

Anything labeled "Pro Stock" on SLS has a 75% chance of being a retail pro model

That’s a probably a conservative estimate…unless you’re separately calculating the “pRo StOcK” listings that aren’t even RETAIL pro-level gear. So many companies using “Pro” terminology for second-tier product lines doesn’t help matters, though. Especially when “Pro” USED to mean top tier for those same companies…

[JediGoalie30]

On 12/28/2024 at 7:56 PM, ilyazhito said:

Do pads also get mislabeled? It is understandable, especially with custom pads (HL2 with Mach graphics, or vice versa), but labeling pads as pads from a different generation (e.g. Optik 3 as Optik 2) would raise eyebrows. 

Sometimes you get lucky and the seller is the original owner, and they list the actual specs in the product description.  Sometimes, it’s not and/or they don’t. Good rule of thumb is that it stuff is obviously custom, ask for specs if you’re considering buying. 
 

And yes, sometimes stuff is just completely mislabeled in the listing description.  Sometimes it’s seller ignorance, and sometimes it’s not. If the seller is a retail store (especially a Play It Again Sports or similar) I wouldn’t count on a great deal of specific information in the listing or ability to answer detailed questions. 

[southpawtendy48]

4 hours ago, coopaloop1234 said:

That problem is easily solved if you just caught correctly. 

Unfortunately I wasn’t born correctly either

[Chenner29]

I flip stuff occasionally on the site, and I'd really like to share some "wall of shame" dumb questions I've gotten asked

[Smalls]

2 hours ago, Chenner29 said:

I flip stuff occasionally on the site, and I'd really like to share some "wall of shame" dumb questions I've gotten asked

Please do lol. I just got asked last night "Is this still available". Pain.

But also, here's a nice set of Medium Trues, REeeeeeeee.

[35RoloSmith41]

On 12/28/2024 at 12:27 PM, Smalls said:

Thought this might be a fun place to chirp some of the funny, super overpriced, gear gore and mislabeled posts you find on SL Swap.

I'll start with some of my finds in the recent past.

More like full wrong.


Never seen this model of Hyperlite before.

 

Ahh the super rare pro stock 930.


This chesty has been through 3 divorces minimum.

Last but not least my favorite delusional post currently on SL.

Im actually selling that brown chestie. Its priced that way because its the most beefed up chest protector brown offered with all the custom options and its not being made anymore. It was like $1200 with all the custom options. 

Ive had multiple offers around 1100 from people saying they're sad brown is gone and they want to get it since it can't be made anymore.

Not exactly delusional if someone's willing to pay for it. 

Edited January 2 by 35RoloSmith41

[Smalls]

8 hours ago, 35RoloSmith41 said:

Not exactly delusional if someone's willing to pay for it.

We can agree to disagree, no harm in that. I get it, Brown is gone now, but still that is a ridiculous price for used chest. If it was $1200 new, why are you selling it for more than that now just because they don't make them anymore? It's also used. I'm sorry but I cant see the pricing logic in that at all. I can see game worn stuff, mainly helmets of GOAT's come to mind, that would get that kind of money regularly. I'm guessing if people were really interested in something like that, I wouldn't have seen your post on SL for many many months at this point. I feel like I've seen it listed on there for a year lol, but maybe I'm wrong.

My favorite part of your post is the part where it says "suspender holders on the shoulders", but it appears to be just skate lace tied around it . Or the CRS strap taped on to the back for the pant loop .

If you really got offers for 1100 you are WILD for not taking those lol, but there is no way I can believe they offered that, but said "nah man I can pay 1100 for this but 100 more is too rich for my blood."

[xmikex32]

27 minutes ago, Smalls said:

We can agree to disagree, no harm in that. I get it, Brown is gone now, but still that is a ridiculous price for used chest. If it was $1200 new, why are you selling it for more than that now just because they don't make them anymore? It's also used. I'm sorry but I cant see the pricing logic in that at all. I can see game worn stuff, mainly helmets of GOAT's come to mind, that would get that kind of money regularly. I'm guessing if people were really interested in something like that, I wouldn't have seen your post on SL for many many months at this point. I feel like I've seen it listed on there for a year lol, but maybe I'm wrong.

My favorite part of your post is the part where it says "suspender holders on the shoulders", but it appears to be just skate lace tied around it . Or the CRS strap taped on to the back for the pant loop .

If you really got offers for 1100 you are WILD for not taking those lol, but there is no way I can believe they offered that, but said "nah man I can pay 1100 for this but 100 more is too rich for my blood."

Hey, that's prostock custom!

[35RoloSmith41]

2 hours ago, Smalls said:

We can agree to disagree, no harm in that. I get it, Brown is gone now, but still that is a ridiculous price for used chest. If it was $1200 new, why are you selling it for more than that now just because they don't make them anymore? It's also used. I'm sorry but I cant see the pricing logic in that at all. I can see game worn stuff, mainly helmets of GOAT's come to mind, that would get that kind of money regularly. I'm guessing if people were really interested in something like that, I wouldn't have seen your post on SL for many many months at this point. I feel like I've seen it listed on there for a year lol, but maybe I'm wrong.

My favorite part of your post is the part where it says "suspender holders on the shoulders", but it appears to be just skate lace tied around it . Or the CRS strap taped on to the back for the pant loop .

If you really got offers for 1100 you are WILD for not taking those lol, but there is no way I can believe they offered that, but said "nah man I can pay 1100 for this but 100 more is too rich for my blood."

That’s the shoulder suspender holder.  I used skate lace to keep the floaters closer together which John brown recommended to me.
 

but yeah it was 1200 new and was only used for like a year( maybe 30 games).  Supply and demand. Theres zero supply so that’s why I’m selling it for more. 

[coopaloop1234]

11 hours ago, 35RoloSmith41 said:

Ive had multiple offers around 1100 from people saying they're sad brown is gone and they want to get it since it can't be made anymore.

Not exactly delusional if someone's willing to pay for it. 

 

6 minutes ago, 35RoloSmith41 said:

 Supply and demand. Theres zero supply so that’s why I’m selling it for more. 

Eh, you're not wrong that it's not delusional if someone wants to pay for it at that price, though I can't fathom why you wouldn't have accepted the $1,100 offer(s). 

Supply and Demand, in it's basic form, is the price relation between both the demand for an item and the available supply. The "equilibrium" price is the one where these two lines intersect. 

The overall demand for John Brown units isn't exactly staggering, nor has it been for some time. And while the lack of supply of these units will inflate the price, it still has to match the according demand, which is extremely low. 

Current NHL spec CCM unit is $750 USD and is more widely adopted at the pro level than the Russian Spec JB units ever were. There really isn't $500 USD (lol) of added value from the current top offerings at retail for someone looking to actually use this on the ice. 

So your target market on this has essentially be filtered down to John Brown aficionados or Collectors. Not only are both of these target markets extremely small, there's a massive chance that these guys already have this type of unit. 

So your demand on this low supply item is low and the price, in theory, will need to come down to hit that sweet spot to sell. 

I don't know man, I'm with @Smalls on this one. John Brown hasn't exactly been a head turner for goalies for a long time now. You'll get some older guys reminiscing on the past, but anyone truly in the market for a bomb proof C/A isn't going to roll the dice for a used unit from an out of business company. 

They'll take the far cheaper and more adopted unit (CCM AB) that has a larger market desire attached to it and has some buyer protection. 

Everyone is free to sell what they want for whatever value they want, but I'm guessing that unless you find an absolute Unicorn of a buyer, this is going to stick around in your garage for a while until the price drops. 

 

[35RoloSmith41]

4 hours ago, coopaloop1234 said:

 

Eh, you're not wrong that it's not delusional if someone wants to pay for it at that price, though I can't fathom why you wouldn't have accepted the $1,100 offer(s). 

Supply and Demand, in it's basic form, is the price relation between both the demand for an item and the available supply. The "equilibrium" price is the one where these two lines intersect. 

The overall demand for John Brown units isn't exactly staggering, nor has it been for some time. And while the lack of supply of these units will inflate the price, it still has to match the according demand, which is extremely low. 

Current NHL spec CCM unit is $750 USD and is more widely adopted at the pro level than the Russian Spec JB units ever were. There really isn't $500 USD (lol) of added value from the current top offerings at retail for someone looking to actually use this on the ice. 

So your target market on this has essentially be filtered down to John Brown aficionados or Collectors. Not only are both of these target markets extremely small, there's a massive chance that these guys already have this type of unit. 

So your demand on this low supply item is low and the price, in theory, will need to come down to hit that sweet spot to sell. 

I don't know man, I'm with @Smalls on this one. John Brown hasn't exactly been a head turner for goalies for a long time now. You'll get some older guys reminiscing on the past, but anyone truly in the market for a bomb proof C/A isn't going to roll the dice for a used unit from an out of business company. 

They'll take the far cheaper and more adopted unit (CCM AB) that has a larger market desire attached to it and has some buyer protection. 

Everyone is free to sell what they want for whatever value they want, but I'm guessing that unless you find an absolute Unicorn of a buyer, this is going to stick around in your garage for a while until the price drops. 

 

I’m still in talks with people and not worried about it lol.  I tend to overprice things and wait on them.   
 

somehow sold my all black Bauer 3x set for more than I paid for it.

[coopaloop1234]

2 minutes ago, 35RoloSmith41 said:

I’m still in talks with people and not worried about it lol.  I tend to overprice things and wait on them.   
 

somehow sold my all black Bauer 3x set for more than I paid for it.

Hey man, if you sell it at this cost, all the power to you. 

[RockyMountainTendy]

Was looking through SLS as one does and found this blunder 1200 for something in this condition is absurd, at least imo correct me if you disagree 

[Chenner29]

On 1/1/2025 at 10:54 PM, 35RoloSmith41 said:

Im actually selling that brown chestie. Its priced that way because its the most beefed up chest protector brown offered with all the custom options and its not being made anymore. It was like $1200 with all the custom options. 

Ive had multiple offers around 1100 from people saying they're sad brown is gone and they want to get it since it can't be made anymore.

Not exactly delusional if someone's willing to pay for it. 

As a career sales professional who has developed and implemented sales processes for an almost billion dollar company -

An offer is not a market index of what cost a customer is willing to bear, and there is a tremendous gap between "offer" stage and a closed deal.

[35RoloSmith41]

2 minutes ago, Chenner29 said:

As a career sales professional who has developed and implemented sales processes for an almost billion dollar company -

An offer is not a market index of what cost a customer is willing to bear, and there is a tremendous gap between "offer" stage and a closed deal.

This isn’t a sales process for a billion dollar company lol. 
 

someone made an offer. If I had clicked ‘accepted’ , it was a “closed deal”. 
 

lmao

[RockyMountainTendy]

1 hour ago, 35RoloSmith41 said:

This isn’t a sales process for a billion dollar company lol. 
 

someone made an offer. If I had clicked ‘accepted’ , it was a “closed deal”. 
 

lmao

Brother just take the L