seagoal Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Atlantic Division -Jimmy Howard DET -Carey Price MTL Metropolitan Division -Braden Holtby WSH -Henrik Lundqvist NYR Central Division -Devan Dubnyk MIN -Pekka Rinne NSH Pacific Division -Marc-Andre Fleury VGK -John Gibson ANA Just looking externally: CCM 5/8 Bauer 2/8 Vaughn 1/8 Lots of leather straps and buckles in this crew, folks. CCM appears the be crushing usage numbers this season, overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insertnamehere Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I know they take at least one player from each team, but Price doesn't deserve it over Vasilevskiy or Andersen for the Atlantic this year, neither does Dubnyk over Bishop in my opinion. DeSmith should be in there for the Metropolitan over either choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 I was really surprised to not see Vasilevsky. Biggest suprise for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motowngoalie Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 It's almost like Price has a free pass to the ASG every year. No way he deserves to be there. I'd even add Halak to the list of Atlantic goalies before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 It was a vote and Price is super popular. He discussed on here probably more than any other goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insertnamehere Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, seagoal said: It was a vote and Price is super popular. He discussed on here probably more than any other goalie. Voted on by whom? I'm fairly certain only the captains were a public vote this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, insertnamehere said: Voted on by whom? I'm fairly certain only the captains were a public vote this year. That's correct. The bulk are chosen by the league hockey operations department. They need popular stars there that draw eyeballs. Price is as popular as it gets for goalies. They could , alternatively, just choose goalie by statistics, but that wouldn't guarantee stars are there. I'm sure they'd admit it isn't about the best, it's about stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose75 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 What it should be: Atlantic: Vasilevskiy / Andersen Metro: Hank / DeSmith or Lehner (both have high save percentages and GSAAs, pick one) Central: Rinne / Dubnyk (Hey they got one right!) Pacific: Gibson (AKA the Ducks) / Rittich (AKA Flavor of the Month) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 I'll throw in a back-up Wild Card: Saros and Rinne in the Central. What a duo those two are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stackem30 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I really dislike how they select All-Stars with the current format, and some of the snubs this year are especially egregious. But then again... This event (and everything in sports, really) exists to make money. Name recognition is everything in an ASG. This is one of the main chances the NHL has to promote player personalities, and they're going to want to do it with their biggest stars, regardless of whether they're having an All-Star worthy season. Children are still the target demographic for the ASG, and children gravitate towards the big names — they tend not to be as enchanted as adults are with breakout prospects, no-name guys having a career season, etc. Just another reason you can usually count on the NHL to take the big names over smaller, more deserving players. ASGs are something that smaller markets and bad teams DO care about. Having a player in the ASG is something the fans of struggling teams can hang their hat on a little, and it's something the organization can promote (it's good for their bottom line, after all). I wouldn't even be surprised if it was something the owners asked for. I think that's why the NHL made it so that every team gets a player in the game, not some "snowflake, Millennial entitlement!!!1" as I've seen some cool Facebook Dads asserting in comments sections. But I digress... having players from every team is just another way that more deserving players get snubbed. This is a 3-on-3 tournament where players don't hit, try trick shots, have fun with each other, etc. It's not real hockey, or even real competition. At the end of the day, this is a silly-fun promotional event to market big stars. It doesn't mean I like it, but I think any fan who's angry about snubs (and I'm not saying anyone on this thread is) would do well to remind themselves how gimmicky the whole concept is. I don't think it's a meaningful slight when someone doesn't make the cut (Vasilevsky), nor is it that meaningful of an honor to be named (Price). It does kinda suck that "being an All-Star" has been rendered less meaningful... at least when fans voted, you tended to get the best of the best. But even then, it was just a popularity contest, and subject to plenty of flaws. At the end of the day, if I may quote the Godfather, "It's nothing personal, it's just business". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, stackem30 said: at least when fans voted, you tended to get the best of the best. But even then, it was just a popularity contest, and subject to plenty of flaws. At the end of the day, if I may quote the Godfather, "It's nothing personal, it's just business". You mean All-Star John Scott wasn't an actual bonafide All-Star? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose75 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 9 hours ago, seagoal said: I'll throw in a back-up Wild Card: Saros and Rinne in the Central. What a duo those two are. Saros isn't having a good season so far though (.903 save percentage is worse than Price. -2.39 GSAA is a little better than Price), whereas Dubnyk is the only other guy having a decent one in that division. I doubt they'd let Varlamov in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 Fair enough. But following @stackem30, this isn't about the best and technically speaking there is no hockey played at an All-star game. It's a 3on3 tourney designed to wow people with offensive displays and charisma. It's about fun and stars. I think Saros is both and he's on my ballot Same for Halak, who's got awesome stats right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: You mean All-Star John Scott wasn't an actual bonafide All-Star? I love that photo. Burns makes it so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_shifty1982 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Mr. Andersen such a great season and isn't there? What a joke, plus Price is just coming off an injury, does he really need to be there? JOKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPv6Freely Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, mr_shifty1982 said: Mr. Andersen such a great season and isn't there? What a joke, plus Price is just coming off an injury, does he really need to be there? JOKE Neither is Marner or Rielly who should both be there too. It is what it is. Like somebody else said, it's an event for the big names and not really whos having the best season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max27 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Lehner got snubbed big time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki1416 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 As a huge Detroit fan, I hate Howard with a passion. There is no way (IMO) that he should be at the ASG. There are so many more out there that are better at what he does. And I would argue that he's not even that popular, so he's not "drawing in" a crowd like Price would just because of the name. Other than that, I do agree that Vasilevsky should be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, loki1416 said: As a huge Detroit fan, I hate Howard with a passion. There is no way (IMO) that he should be at the ASG. There are so many more out there that are better at what he does. And I would argue that he's not even that popular, so he's not "drawing in" a crowd like Price would just because of the name. Other than that, I do agree that Vasilevsky should be there. Howard has the third best SV% of the group and is in the middle for GAA. While he's not a superstar so to speak, he's in line with the rest of the cast and honestly, who else should go from Detroit? Larkin with 39 points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPv6Freely Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, Max27 said: Lehner got snubbed big time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max27 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, IPv6Freely said: in all honesty he completley couldve gone lol hes 1st in both GAA and Save% but I see putting Hank and Holtbeast above him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, Max27 said: in all honesty he completley couldve gone lol hes 1st in both GAA and Save% but I see putting Hank and Holtbeast above him 9 wins in 19 games isn't going to do him any favours. Plus, the guy is a bit of a nutcase with almost zero star appeal. NHL don't like dem type o' fellas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max27 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, coopaloop1234 said: 9 wins in 19 games isn't going to do him any favours. Plus, the guy is a bit of a nutcase with almost zero star appeal. NHL don't like dem type o' fellas Yeah I do see why they didnt put him in lol wouldve been really good for him though, considering the year hes had. His record doesnt really speak for how he plays. Ive watched every minute of every game the Isles have played this season and really only 1 loss i can blame him for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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