TheGoalNet Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Here’s the scan data for Bauer over the last year. This is from player skates. Supreme Player = Vapor Goal Vapor Player = Supreme Goal Nexus = You need custom! My point? The Average person should start with Vapor is ordering online, looking used, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dualshowman Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Interesting, but could you possibly unpack this a bit more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, dualshowman said: Interesting, but could you possibly unpack this a bit more? Vapor is a more generous fit. There’s more volume to the boot, so it can accommodate more feet shapes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULTIMA Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I tried this. Told me to go into the Vapor 1X in 7EE and the fit was bag on, perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dualshowman Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I figure I'm not understanding why Bauer would have such drastically different fit profiles between goal skates and player skates. Kinda infuriating, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nohtaram Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 hours ago, dualshowman said: I figure I'm not understanding why Bauer would have such drastically different fit profiles between goal skates and player skates. Kinda infuriating, actually. Same here. If I would know this earlier I would try to buy some Vapors instead of 1S. For me it's just put customers in confusion. They could use different names for goal skates if you did changes in overall fit of the skates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 7 hours ago, dualshowman said: I figure I'm not understanding why Bauer would have such drastically different fit profiles between goal skates and player skates. Kinda infuriating, actually. 4 hours ago, Nohtaram said: Same here. If I would know this earlier I would try to buy some Vapors instead of 1S. For me it's just put customers in confusion. They could use different names for goal skates if you did changes in overall fit of the skates. It 100% doesn't make sense. The goalie skates also are not in the scanning machines yet. That is coming this summer. Once that comes this summer, many of these issues will go away. The machines will tell people what model to get and take a lot of the guess work out of it As for why this happened? Bauer didn't always have 2 lines of goal skates. For awhile it just Supreme, then Vapor XXX and Supreme, then just Supreme, then just Pro or Elite, Then Supreme and Reactor, and now Supreme and Vapor The reality is that with all that change it just sort of evolved this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAngle41 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Great post! I'm in S190s now which are my first pair of Bauers ever (always wore Graf w/ the excpetion of 1 pair of CCM Tacks)... and while they're a good skate and they fit decently well in the heel and toe box... the extra room towards the top of the boot would be nice. No matter how many methods of tying my laces I've tried... my ankles get sore. Might be looking into 2Xs when available... or just the 1X as they'll be discounted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dualshowman Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, TheGoalNet said: It 100% doesn't make sense. The goalie skates also are not in the scanning machines yet. That is coming this summer. Once that comes this summer, many of these issues will go away. The machines will tell people what model to get and take a lot of the guess work out of it As for why this happened? Bauer didn't always have 2 lines of goal skates. For awhile it just Supreme, then Vapor XXX and Supreme, then just Supreme, then just Pro or Elite, Then Supreme and Reactor, and now Supreme and Vapor The reality is that with all that change it just sort of evolved this way Well, regardless of Bauer's lack of logic in their approach, I appreciate the clarification and diligence on your part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckstopper Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 10 hours ago, dualshowman said: I figure I'm not understanding why Bauer would have such drastically different fit profiles between goal skates and player skates. Kinda infuriating, actually. It is frustrating. I ordered 1S's in a EE width and didn't begin to have enough room. After picking up a few hours here and there at our LHS I found out they can punch boots, and after having that done I FINALLY have enough room. I never even considered the Vapor line because I just assumed the Supreme was more of a volume fit, and the Vaper was more form fitting, just like the player skates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korppi32 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 8 hours ago, TheGoalNet said: It 100% doesn't make sense. The goalie skates also are not in the scanning machines yet. That is coming this summer. Once that comes this summer, many of these issues will go away. The machines will tell people what model to get and take a lot of the guess work out of it As for why this happened? Bauer didn't always have 2 lines of goal skates. For awhile it just Supreme, then Vapor XXX and Supreme, then just Supreme, then just Pro or Elite, Then Supreme and Reactor, and now Supreme and Vapor The reality is that with all that change it just sort of evolved this way You can scan goalie skates too. There should be more room in ankle part in Vapor goalie skates than Supreme, but it doesn´t mean Vapor Goalie = Supreme player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Korppi32 said: You can scan goalie skates too. There should be more room in ankle part in Vapor goalie skates than Supreme, but it doesn´t mean Vapor Goalie = Supreme player. I did a scan like 6 months and it didn’t have Goalie. Bauer told me goalie scans were coming with 2X line When did you encounter a scanner with goalie boots? and fair point on the my “math” not being fully accurate on the fits... but it’s an easy way to remember that Vapor goal is more generous or if you were Supreme player skates, you might need Vapor goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korppi32 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Goalie scan came few months ago. But you can´t order custom goalie skates. I think that option will come with 2X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalieThreeOne Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 10:04 AM, Korppi32 said: Goalie scan came few months ago. But you can´t order custom goalie skates. I think that option will come with 2X Reviving this old thread to confirm that it is available right now. Ordered custom 2s Pro skates through Pure Hockey last month. I got the pro liner, 2X Pro tongue, and my name and number. Turns out based on the scan, that I should be wearing 8.25 C (narrow skates) this whole time. I've been wearing 9D's my whole career. Ended up ordering 8.75's Because I don't like my toes touching the end of the skate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 11 hours ago, goalieThreeOne said: Reviving this old thread to confirm that it is available right now. Ordered custom 2s Pro skates through Pure Hockey last month. I got the pro liner, 2X Pro tongue, and my name and number. Turns out based on the scan, that I should be wearing 8.25 C (narrow skates) this whole time. I've been wearing 9D's my whole career. Ended up ordering 8.75's Because I don't like my toes touching the end of the skate. Nice. Glad to hear that’s working. Please post pics when available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Did you also know the S and X Pro skates have a different number of eyelets in each model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL42 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 4 hours ago, netminder said: Did you also know the S and X Pro skates have a different number of eyelets in each model? yes 9 - 10 bc of the wrap, but u don't use the top one any ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nohtaram Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 3 hours ago, DL42 said: but u don't use the top one any ways Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL42 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 47 minutes ago, Nohtaram said: Why is that? it doesnt allow u to flex forward, just try it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nohtaram Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 I tried to loose top eyelet in in my player skates, then in my first goalie skates and again in my current one. Never liked the feeling of that. Therefore I always tie my skates all way up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalieThreeOne Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 On 7/4/2019 at 1:45 PM, TheGoalNet said: Nice. Glad to hear that’s working. Please post pics when available Lead time was quote at 8-10 weeks. So when they come in around mid-August, I'll be sharing. Be sure you read up as much as you can before you go in. My store said I was the very first one and they didn't have the process exactly streamlined yet. If you want to see the liner options, they have a sample from the player skates. THe liners are mostly identical from the bottom of the ankle down, you basically just choose if you want the quick drying liner (stock) up top or you want the bottom material to extend all the way up (pro liner). You can choose between felt, standard 2s pro, and 2x pro tongue so look at the display skates for examples of the 2s pro and 2x pro tongues, and the player skate sample for the felt tongue. You can also ask for small adjustments. I hate the ankle wrap on my retail 1s so I asked them to make mine a little tighter, even though the scan accounts for your ankle wrap. Their spreadsheet will not tell you beforehand what size steel you'll be using if you end up in quarter sizes, so be prepared you might end up making some adjustments. If you want to see what the scan is like, here is mine: https://my.volumental.com/en/bauer_custom/a4134392-df5f-470f-9abd-0d5c9c9c3768/?utm_medium=myvemail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Do you have to pay to be scanned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL42 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, SaveByRichter35 said: Do you have to pay to be scanned? its free unless they want to be jerks about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 8 hours ago, DL42 said: its free unless they want to be jerks about it Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalieThreeOne Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 If a store tries to charge you for scanning, which is no different and arguably easier than fitting skates, turn around and walk out. One interesting question is if scans can be taken at one retailer, and then skates ordered at another. When I scanned my feet, there was no scan number or serial so I believe they are locked into the store you actually get the scan done at. If that's the case, no store should be charging for scans, because they're guaranteed the sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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