Jonathon v Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 ^ if I could get estimate numbers in weight that would he great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xdave90x Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Sorry if it comes out rude but seriously where does your obsession with the weight of everything comes from? If you're seriously worried this or the weight difference between skate lace and nylon for the pocket will affect your game just go to the gym and train your arms that's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 The question is whether or not the lower weight sacrifices protection. When I was in the world of cycling, we had the sub group we affectionately called “weight weenies”. They were obsessed with how to save a gramme here, a gramme there; after all- grammes become kilogrammes. Some would substitute aluminium or titanium bolts for anything ferrous; others would go anywhere from cutting off excess seatpins in the frame to even excess length of bolts. Carbon fibre this, carbon fibre that. One guy even had an unupholstered carbon fibre saddle on his bike. But it became an exercise in diminishing returns, as some of the bikes, unless you weighed about 8 stone (well under 140#), were INSANELY unusable. Guess what would happen to carbon fibre chainrings? They would wear quicker, plus the carbon dust would wear the chain unusually fast. The super light titanium or carbon fibre frames would flex with each pedal stroke. It was what you’d give up to get up a hill quicker. The UCI recognised that not only this obsession with weight was silly, but could endanger riders. Unless you were an 8 stone hill climbing specialist, you could break a 10 pound bicycle. The UCI made the weight minimum around 15 pounds, which is STILL ten pounds LIGHTER than what Greg Lemond won Tours de France on! What you need to remember is that gear weighs HALF of what it weighed only 25 years ago. Hardly any felt is used, jenpro and cordura replaced leather, and your gear doesn’t gain that much water from three periods of snow, sweat and water trying to cool you off when spraying your head. What I am trying to say with this is that there is only so much positive an obsession with weight can bring before you sacrifice protection for light weight. That being said- some new flubber gobbledy goop could come along that will make the current, state-of-art Zote branded foam relegated to Senior gear. Some senior gear is super light, but it would only last so long before you felt every shot. Not trying to discourage you in the least. Ed Belfour was a weight weenie. His pads were so thin (comparatively speaking) that you could feel shots. He knew what he was giving up and was fine with it; those are qualities that certainly separated him from others and he had a hall of fame career. If you think you will be faster and make more saves with lighter gear, go for it! Be prepared for what you could lose with going lighter than what modern items with a good balance of protection and light weight offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyers27 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 My last glove, Eflex 3.9, had a game ready palm. My current glove, P2, has a pro palm. I did not notice a weight difference. I did not weigh them to find out if there actually was a difference. I did notice a protective difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathon v Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Xdave90x said: Sorry if it comes out rude but seriously where does your obsession with the weight of everything comes from? If you're seriously worried this or the weight difference between skate lace and nylon for the pocket will affect your game just go to the gym and train your arms that's all I do train my arms they are just not as strong as the rest of my body. My glove hand has been a bit slower since I got this new glove so I just want it to be lighter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Boiss Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jonathon v said: I do train my arms they are just not as strong as the rest of my body. My glove hand has been a bit slower since I got this new glove so I just want it to be lighter... Pick up each glove and toss them up and down a bit. Can you immediately feel a significant weight difference between the two? If not, then, the weight of your new glove is not the issue. I'll bet what's happening is that you're still getting used to the new glove, and when you go to catch pucks with it your brain is stuttering a little because it doesn't feel like it always has. Your reaction time might be slower, but I really doubt it's because of the weight of the glove; you're probably just psyching yourself out. Wear the glove around the house in your off hours, bounce tennis balls off the walls, and give it some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathon v Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 28 minutes ago, CJ Boiss said: Pick up each glove and toss them up and down a bit. Can you immediately feel a significant weight difference between the two? If not, then, the weight of your new glove is not the issue. I'll bet what's happening is that you're still getting used to the new glove, and when you go to catch pucks with it your brain is stuttering a little because it doesn't feel like it always has. Your reaction time might be slower, but I really doubt it's because of the weight of the glove; you're probably just psyching yourself out. Wear the glove around the house in your off hours, bounce tennis balls off the walls, and give it some time. Ok thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 29 minutes ago, CJ Boiss said: Pick up each glove and toss them up and down a bit. Can you immediately feel a significant weight difference between the two? If not, then, the weight of your new glove is not the issue. I'll bet what's happening is that you're still getting used to the new glove, and when you go to catch pucks with it your brain is stuttering a little because it doesn't feel like it always has. Your reaction time might be slower, but I really doubt it's because of the weight of the glove; you're probably just psyching yourself out. Wear the glove around the house in your off hours, bounce tennis balls off the walls, and give it some time. Voice of reason right here^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Xdave90x said: Sorry if it comes out rude but seriously where does your obsession with the weight of everything comes from? If you're seriously worried this or the weight difference between skate lace and nylon for the pocket will affect your game just go to the gym and train your arms that's all The weight obsession comes from years of people equating lighter to being better is my guess. And of course if your shiny, new glove isn’t performing to expectations, you question your purchase. Is it too heavy? Is it less mobile? Did I pick the wrong colour? I get where you’re coming from, as well. The realisation that working on my game was more important than purchasing equipment came from my time spent in the world of cycling, which is equal to golf in thinking that equipment can completely change your game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Boiss Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 30 minutes ago, bunnyman666 said: The weight obsession comes from years of people equating lighter to being better is my guess. And of course if your shiny, new glove isn’t performing to expectations, you question your purchase. Is it too heavy? Is it less mobile? Did I pick the wrong colour? I get where you’re coming from, as well. The realisation that working on my game was more important than purchasing equipment came from my time spent in the world of cycling, which is equal to golf in thinking that equipment can completely change your game. I can understand people pinpointing weight being a factor under certain circumstances. For example, if you're getting +40 shots per game a few extra pounds on your pads could be the difference between being exhausted and regularly fatigued (especially for us beer leaguers who may not have the time to squeeze a lower-body strength/endurance training regimen into our daily schedule). Now, I'd say the real problem there is the number of shots we're facing, but that isn't something we can control. Our gear? We can do something about that. And, if we're rocking pads and gloves from eight or nine years ago, the weight difference compared to new equipment might be significant enough to change our game for the better. By and large though, we're getting scored on not because our gear isn't shiny and new but because we (or our teammates) are doing something that's -- let's be generous and say -- "not optimal". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, CJ Boiss said: I can understand people pinpointing weight being a factor under certain circumstances. For example, if you're getting +40 shots per game a few extra pounds on your pads could be the difference between being exhausted and regularly fatigued (especially for us beer leaguers who may not have the time to squeeze a lower-body strength/endurance training regimen into our daily schedule). Now, I'd say the real problem there is the number of shots we're facing, but that isn't something we can control. Our gear? We can do something about that. And, if we're rocking pads and gloves from eight or nine years ago, the weight difference compared to new equipment might be significant enough to change our game for the better. By and large though, we're getting scored on not because our gear isn't shiny and new but because we (or our teammates) are doing something that's -- let's be generous and say -- "not optimal". Don’t disagree in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc1200 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 How often you play and how long you want the glove to last should probably be the deciding factor on game ready vs pro palm. I was told by my Brian’s rep to go with a pro palm with some extra break in because I play 2-3 times per week. I’m sure a pro palm adds weight but I don’t want to buy another glove in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scythe Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 The weight... how many times can we split a hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 40 minutes ago, Scythe said: The weight... how many times can we split a hair To play devil’s advocate, yes- extra weight can contribute to fatigue, but we’re not talking the doubled weight that an old leather or Durasoft pad has at the end of 60 minutes of hockey. I played in my Durasoft pads recently. Let’s just say that the entire set (with old felt sweatshirt chestie) felt measurably heavier. I love the look of the look of the old stuff; but would not play in it knowing I have this light weight stuff that doesn’t gain much weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 On 10/27/2019 at 1:44 AM, Jonathon v said: ^ if I could get estimate numbers in weight that would he great Dude, seriously with these threads? Come on man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathon v Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, SaveByRichter35 said: Dude, seriously with these threads? Come on man. Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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