beansbats Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 There is a True press release somewhere that reads like they bought Lefevre, rather than a partnership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Quote MEMPHIS, TN – MONTREAL, QC – TRUE Sports, a leading developer and manufacturer of hockey, golf, baseball and lacrosse products, has announced the acquisition of QC-based goalie equipment manufacturer, Lefevre Inc. While the terms of the deal were not disclosed, the acquisition will add exciting, innovative technology to the company’s advanced R&D portfolio, as well as expand TRUE Hockey’s reach into the goalie equipment market segment. “Working with Lefevre is something our entire team is looking forward to,” Chris Considine, President & CEO of TRUE Sports said. “At TRUE Sports, our commitment to improving the player experience has never wavered, and we knew from our first meeting with Lefevre that this was the right move to make. This next chapter will help us continue to be the fastest growing hockey brand in the world, and it will generate additional partnerships with distributors, professional players, and influencers.” As part of the agreement, TRUE Sports will continue to manufacture Lefevre goalie equipment in Canada. All Lefevre employees will be retained and will be moving forward with the business. “We are thrilled to be starting this endeavor with TRUE Hockey,” Michel Lefevre, President of Lefevre said. “It was important to us that we continued with a company that’s as eager to improve the player experience as we are. It was vital to us that our team be able to retain their current positions, while aligning with one of – if not the most – innovative hockey brand to date. It’s been a natural progression from the start and we’re eager to see what the future holds!” Both TRUE Hockey and Lefevre currently distribute their hockey product lines globally and are used by elite level hockey players around the world, including a wealth of NHL goaltenders. “We are thrilled to be working with the Lefevre family,” said Steve Sutherland, TRUE Hockey Vice President & General Manager. “As a brand rooted in the continuous enhancement of the goalie experience, the Lefevre acquisition is a sign of our commitment to the game and a step forward in our mission to become the most innovative hockey brand in the world.” In the coming weeks, TRUE Hockey will be rolling out a detailed strategic plan to its valued retail partners and consumers for the Lefevre Goalie line, which will include a very exciting retail consumer experience with select TRUE Hockey retail partners in 2021. https://www.true-hockey.com/true-sports-acquires-iconic-goalie-company-lefevre-inc/?set_loc=en&doing_wp_cron=1601404322.3385770320892333984375 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_shifty1982 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 All money and for marketing purposes because Lefevre didn't do enough for the average beer league goalie I thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenC Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Worst kept secret for a while!! Surprised that True have acquired Leferve though and not just a partnership. I thought Leferve would have made retail products with the True name and had their own stuff branded True for any pros (if True pay the NHL fees) and the beer leaguers could still buy Leferve direct or from retailers. If True have bought Leferve.....maybe not?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, StevenC said: Worst kept secret for a while!! Surprised that True have acquired Leferve though and not just a partnership. I thought Leferve would have made retail products with the True name and had their own stuff branded True for any pros (if True pay the NHL fees) and the beer leaguers could still buy Leferve direct or from retailers. If True have bought Leferve.....maybe not?! I'm sure that Lefebvre just doesn't have the man power or pockets to truly compete in the market. Their name does carry a certain pedigree, but I don't think it would carry them enough for them to grow to the same degree that the RBK/CCM partnership did. By aligning with True, they're able to ensure a certain amount of longevity as well as being able to leverage True's current market power to help boost their reach. And I'm sure True is seeing this as an easy in to the actual goalie gear market as they get to piggy back on the Lefebvre current gear offering/following. Pretty win/win as far as I can tell. Though I'm curious how much True shelled out for the exclusivity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeperton Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Really interested to see where this goes and also to see the 12.2 come though. The seal on those looks amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike24 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Gotta love the ever changing goalie gear landscape!!!!! My playing days are done but it’s still entertaining as hell. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdeFIN Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) If True pays for the NHL, what effect does that make to CCM? Lefevre wasn't a real competitor in the customer markets without brand visibility in the NHL and missing the SR/int/jr lines. Interesting times coming right up. And will True now come out with a full gear for goalies? C/As, pants, etc... Edit: fixed some missing text, dang mobilephone. Edited September 30, 2020 by ArdeFIN Some text added.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estogoalie Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Lefevere is entrenched in the NHL. As we see from the last few months, there's still alot of pro goalies lining up to buy Mr.Lefevre's product. If True doesn't pony up the dough to get their brand name in the NHL it would be really strange. Why else buy a product/brand with such high visibility if you don't capitalize on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTH Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 True kinda marches to their own beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 True is absolutely paying the NHL licensing fee... That is sort of the point Lefevre Solo: No NHL Licensing fee No budget to endorse goalies like Carter Hart No Sr or Jr line - This is what sells at retail and makes the most stable sales for everyone Summary: Lefevre solo is very cool, but it's a very tough business True Solo: Starting a goalie line from scratch No brand recognition as a manufacturer of pads, gloves, blocker Summary: Anyone remember Warrior pre-Smith? True Acquires Lefevre: Pays the NHL licensing fee Endorses Hart, Freddy, Hellebyuck, and more to come? Lefevre gives True instant credibility for setups and masks Lefevre provides their experience with setting up an offshore version of their gear for a Sr and Jr line True now has to head to toe to compete with Bauer, CCM, etc (Spoiler, we will see a chesty and pants eventually) True has tremendous access to NHL goalies via the pro reps because so many goalies use their skates. This creates a synergy of selling Lefevre gear at Pro True's main pro rep used to work at Vaughn and knows gear 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said: True is absolutely paying the NHL licensing fee... That is sort of the point Lefevre Solo: No NHL Licensing fee No budget to endorse goalies like Carter Hart No Sr or Jr line - This is what sells at retail and makes the most stable sales for everyone Summary: Lefevre solo is very cool, but it's a very tough business True Solo: Starting a goalie line from scratch No brand recognition as a manufacturer of pads, gloves, blocker Summary: Anyone remember Warrior pre-Smith? True Acquires Lefevre: Pays the NHL licensing fee Endorses Hart, Freddy, Hellebyuck, and more to come? Lefevre gives True instant credibility for setups and masks Lefevre provides their experience with setting up an offshore version of their gear for a Sr and Jr line True now has to head to toe to compete with Bauer, CCM, etc (Spoiler, we will see a chesty and pants eventually) True has tremendous access to NHL goalies via the pro reps because so many goalies use their skates. This creates a synergy of selling Lefevre gear at Pro True's main pro rep used to work at Vaughn and knows gear Great summary. Quote Summary: Anyone remember Warrior pre-Smith? *Shudders* 15 hours ago, Mike24 said: Gotta love the ever changing goalie gear landscape!!!!! My playing days are done but it’s still entertaining as hell. Hey, any time there is an added amount of gear to speculate and drool over, the better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: Hey, any time there is an added amount of gear to speculate and drool over, the better. I have a feeling Vaughn could be the big loser in all of this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estogoalie Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said: I have a feeling Vaughn could be the big loser in all of this Why? If Lefevre moves from the CCM umbrella to the True umbrella, how does that affect anyone else? Except CCM I guess. Vaughn has been sliding downhill for a few years now, due to lack of innovation*, nothing to do with Lefevre tho. * Magnet strapping excluded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike24 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said: I have a feeling Vaughn could be the big loser in all of this Only Big Losers wear Vaughn. I kid I kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ser33 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Lefebvre most innovative brand? are they serious? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estogoalie Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 hours ago, ser33 said: Lefebvre most innovative brand? are they serious? lol Hmmm, good point, they don't even have magnet straps, LOL. So why does Vaughn get a bad rap for keeping the Velo pretty much unchanged, while Lefevre get nothing but praise for offering up the same warmed-over design year after year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, estogoalie said: Hmmm, good point, they don't even have magnet straps, LOL. So why does Vaughn get a bad rap for keeping the Velo pretty much unchanged, while Lefevre get nothing but praise for offering up the same warmed-over design year after year? I don't think anyone gives Lefevbre a free pass. I think many just choose to look the other way since they're arguably the most popular brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 hours ago, estogoalie said: Vaughn has been sliding downhill for a few years now, due to lack of innovation* You answered your own question. There is more strong competition than ever. Vaughn has the least compelling product. It's a game of musical chairs and Vaughn could end up without anywhere to sit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ser33 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, estogoalie said: Хммм, хороший момент, у них даже магнитных ремней нет, LOL. Так почему же Вон получил плохую репутацию за то, что сохранил Velo практически без изменений, в то время как Лефевр получил только похвалу за то, что из года в год предлагал один и тот же теплый дизайн? it has been said many times that Vaughn is a good manufacturer but very poor marketing. IMHO, the popularity of outdated Lefebvre models is nothing more than excellent marketing tied to professionals and the NHL. I myself played Premier 4 until recently and yes they are good. were about 5 years ago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeperton Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 4 hours ago, TheGoalNet said: You answered your own question. There is more strong competition than ever. Vaughn has the least compelling product. It's a game of musical chairs and Vaughn could end up without anywhere to sit. Would you care to elaborate on your opinion regarding your comment saying it's the least compelling? I don't inherently disagree, but I feel like that is kind of their thing. My opinion is that Vaughn definitely doesn't push the envelopes, but are really entrenched with a lot of goalies when it comes to less visible gear (C/A and pants). I also think they could really push the SLR3, assuming it's a thing, to make it one of the most desirable pads on the market with just a couple of changes, strapping (weight, thinning the top, giving flex options) especially since the SLR2 has great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 6 hours ago, keeperton said: Would you care to elaborate on your opinion regarding your comment saying it's the least compelling? I don't inherently disagree, but I feel like that is kind of their thing. My opinion is that Vaughn definitely doesn't push the envelopes, but are really entrenched with a lot of goalies when it comes to less visible gear (C/A and pants). I also think they could really push the SLR3, assuming it's a thing, to make it one of the most desirable pads on the market with just a couple of changes, strapping (weight, thinning the top, giving flex options) especially since the SLR2 has great. Personally, I was a Vaughn guy from V2 to V6. Aside from a brief foray into the small market manufacturers with Kenesky, I've pretty much favored a Lefevre designed product since then (588 RPM, Eflex 1, Eflex 4, 20.1). I'd say my gear preferences have changed a bit...but really, the Vaughn gear doesn't excite me anymore. Personal opinion here - The core issue is that Vaughn gear is designed and built to have great "off-the-shelf" appeal. Meaning, the glove closes easily. Pads, pants, and chest/arm units flex effortlessly and everything moves extremely well with the body. The gear is great for a reactionary Jonathan Quick type athlete and the weekend warrior goalie for these exact reasons. However, this design philosophy does not mesh well with most pro clients, and I believe it breaks down as such: As the position has become increasingly technical, most pro customers pursue gear that performs the same out of the box until the end of its lifetime - ie. input x = output x. And when that equation is no longer true, a new set is being popped out of the box at practice. This is in direct opposition to how the product is designed for retail, which in turn opens the need for customization off the retail base. As a result, any time you have an amount of extra work going in, there is potential to lose the consistency and feel from set to set...A pro's set used in September to October may be absolutely dialed in, but someone else at the factory assembled his October through November set and the feel is off. I'd also be interested to hear how Vaughn sells at stores from the guys working retail... @ULTIMA, @Puckstopper, @ZeroGravitas Other comments In response to your comment I bolded above - reminds me of how Brown disappeared from the league. The gloves and pads fell off and he was only building C/As and pants, then gone from the league entirely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckstopper Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I can sum up Vaughn sales in our store pretty quickly: Vaughn isn't a brand very many people who aren't already wearing it come in to look at, but they're a fairly easy sell IF the person isn't fixated on buying Brand X because Goalie Y wears it. Vaughn did themselves a big favor by including QuickSlide at the senior price point on the SLR2 and stole a few sales from Brian's and CCM because of that. The other thing is that Vaughn (and to a certain degree some Brian's stuff as well) have a feel that some people are very comfortable with. I've had several people who were in Vaughn currently come in to buy something "more modern", try on everything I have from Bauer, CCM and Warrior and end up walking back out the door with another set of Vaughns. They are innovative, but they resist slapping fancy names on every change they make like some of the other companies do and it hurts them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTH Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Vaughn has what? 2 lines of gear but 700 different models in those lines. Is that the pro carbon SLR2? Rolls right off the tounge don't it? I don't even know what the Ventus line really is. And I'm on a goalie gear forum! If I were them, I'd just make the Velocity line the modern stuff and use a name like "Legacy" for all the gear that everyone loves. T5500, etc. God knows just about every kid is walking into the rink in a throwback model shoe these days. They could put so many iconic lines of gear under the Legacy name. Even do 'special releases' of beloved older lines. You could even make a third line of just fully custom gloves and call them 'Vaughn Custom'. Put a special logo on all that gear. We all love showing off custom stuff. Why make it look like standard stuff? Embrace it. Charge more than normal for them. Makes you look more like a baller now that it's overpriced some. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravitas Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, Puckstopper said: I can sum up Vaughn sales in our store pretty quickly: Vaughn isn't a brand very many people who aren't already wearing it come in to look at (...) This sums up my experience. People who aren't interested in Vaughn from the get-go generally don't give it a second glance when they come into the store. If a beer leaguer picks up the pad, they don't say, "Wow" like they do on with a current-gen EFlex, Warrior or Bauer pad, especially if they're coming from an older pad. There's just not much there to entice a beer leaguer to wear Vaughn beyond the chasing the feel that they may be used to with a older, softer pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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