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Well I went to my local Perani's to try on some Bauer and CCM skates just to get a feel for the holders, and I think I actually liked the extra forward pitch the Vertexx holders provide.  I found it easier to get low and forward and didn't feel unbalanced at all moving laterally.  I also like that the Bauer steel is a little shorter.  Anyone gone that route?

Not sure what model the CCM boot was, but it felt like hot garbage, the Bauer was the current mid-tier offering, the Elite model.  Both made me very much appreciate the 9035s.  

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On 11/6/2020 at 12:41 PM, Bmats30 said:

Just wanted to add, I went ahead with the swap. I got to try them out last night, needless to say but way more stiffness than my Bauer x2.7 skates. Very responsive, but will take some time to get used to. Not sure if it is in my head but the skates felt even better once they were mounted to the new holders and out of the cowlings. Overall pretty happy with the result! 

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@Bmats30 how do you like the True holder, is it much different than the Bauer as far as height/feel? Considering putting them on G7500 boots.

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I've been e-mailing back and forth with Pure Hockey and I guess they don't have an ETA for when the Shift Attack goalie holders will be available separately.  I have no measurements, but from what Bones and Cam at the hockey shop have said in their reviews of the TF9s, the Shift holders seem sort of a middle ground between the Bauer and CCM holders, which sounds good to me.  Bones specifically talks about how the Shift holder doesn't have as much of a forward pitch as the old 2-piece design and is an easier transition from his one piece skates.  Until they're available, I'll probably continue to rock the cowlings.  

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15 minutes ago, AdamL said:

I've been e-mailing back and forth with Pure Hockey and I guess they don't have an ETA for when the Shift Attack goalie holders will be available separately.  I have no measurements, but from what Bones and Cam at the hockey shop have said in their reviews of the TF9s, the Shift holders seem sort of a middle ground between the Bauer and CCM holders, which sounds good to me.  Bones specifically talks about how the Shift holder doesn't have as much of a forward pitch as the old 2-piece design and is an easier transition from his one piece skates.  Until they're available, I'll probably continue to rock the cowlings.  

That old VH/Step holder was super aggressive. I hated the super short blades, as well. It was literally a player holder, so it doesn’t surprise me in the least. Has anyone noticed how very few forwards used that holder? 

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16 minutes ago, bunnyman666 said:

That old VH/Step holder was super aggressive. I hated the super short blades, as well. It was literally a player holder, so it doesn’t surprise me in the least. Has anyone noticed how very few forwards used that holder? 

The short blades and smaller radius on the factory Graf steel are exactly what I like most about them.  I had some CCMs prior to going back to these and always felt like I was stuck in mud. I can basically skate like a forward in these skates and in fact have.  I played out a couple games in college (we sucked and needed a body) wearing my goalie skates.  

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5 minutes ago, AdamL said:

The short blades and smaller radius on the factory Graf steel are exactly what I like most about them.  I had some CCMs prior to going back to these and always felt like I was stuck in mud. I can basically skate like a forward in these skates and in fact have.  I played out a couple games in college (we sucked and needed a body) wearing my goalie skates.  

Yeah- I was talking about the VH/Step holder. Graf actually has the tallest stock steel as far as cowlings go.

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58 minutes ago, AdamL said:

I have no measurements, but from what Bones and Cam at the hockey shop have said in their reviews of the TF9s, the Shift holders seem sort of a middle ground between the Bauer and CCM holders, which sounds good to me.  Bones specifically talks about how the Shift holder doesn't have as much of a forward pitch as the old 2-piece design and is an easier transition from his one piece skates.  Until they're available, I'll probably continue to rock the cowlings.  

FWIW, True claims that the holder height and pitch are "in-line with the industry standard (Vertex)." Haven't used either the Vertexx or the Shift Attack so I can't say if that's true or not.

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31 minutes ago, ZeroGravitas said:

FWIW, True claims that the holder height and pitch are "in-line with the industry standard (Vertex)." Haven't used either the Vertexx or the Shift Attack so I can't say if that's true or not.

Interesting, thanks for sharing.  Maybe I'll just give the Vertexx holders and whirl and see how it goes.

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