coopaloop1234 1,937 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 54 minutes ago, ULTIMA said: I can't get the image but just saw a few days ago on Insta some absurdly large percentage of NHL goalies are now in True gear. Something like 41%. So aside from them, who's still wearing CCM, Bauer and Vaughn? I feel like this happened overnight. This one? Doesn't specify what metrics are being used to come up with that number. CCM was about 28% or so before the split and I don't think Bauer's or Vaughns overall market share has dropped that significantly. I'm guessing they're considering if a goalie uses anything True branded in those stats. https://www.geargeek.com/position/goalie Believe these numbers were from the 19-20 season. Edited February 17 by coopaloop1234 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chenner29 556 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 53 minutes ago, ULTIMA said: I can't get the image but just saw a few days ago on Insta some absurdly large percentage of NHL goalies are now in True gear. Something like 41%. So aside from them, who's still wearing CCM, Bauer and Vaughn? I feel like this happened overnight. I think it’s from the True IG feed and has been making its way around all social media outlets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThatCarGuy 388 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 A welcome change is that goaliemonkey will be accepting true gear orders in april 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheGoalNet 1,336 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 2/17/2021 at 3:55 PM, coopaloop1234 said: This one? Doesn't specify what metrics are being used to come up with that number. CCM was about 28% or so before the split and I don't think Bauer's or Vaughns overall market share has dropped that significantly. I'm guessing they're considering if a goalie uses anything True branded in those stats. https://www.geargeek.com/position/goalie Believe these numbers were from the 19-20 season. Clearly states NHL STARTERS. Gear Geek is all goalies. Probably the difference Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coopaloop1234 1,937 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 15 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said: Clearly states NHL STARTERS. Gear Geek is all goalies. Probably the difference I"m obviously too lazy to actually do the research myself, but does that 41% mean full sets (pads/gloves)? Or just a piece? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colander 202 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 32 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: I"m obviously too lazy to actually do the research myself, but does that 41% mean full sets (pads/gloves)? Or just a piece? Oooh - rookie mistake Coop! You don't ask how the data was obtained for a survey, you don't ask how the questions were posed or what qualifiers were used. You just accept the numbers as presented, otherwise the whole marketing schema we live by will have to answer too many questions... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coopaloop1234 1,937 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheGoalNet said: Clearly states NHL STARTERS. Gear Geek is all goalies. Probably the difference 13 minutes ago, Colander said: Oooh - rookie mistake Coop! You don't ask how the data was obtained for a survey, you don't ask how the questions were posed or what qualifiers were used. You just accept the numbers as presented, otherwise the whole marketing schema we live by will have to answer too many questions... So I decided, at the determent of my actual work, to take a quick survey to see how accurate True's marketing was. This is only considering STARTERS and that's based off of who has the most games played currently. Out of all the starters, only 9 goalies were wearing full True sets (pads/gloves) and one was wearing a single piece of True gear that differentiates from his normal set (Blackwood). Even if we wanted to count the mismatched piece, that leaves us with 10 goalies out of 31 teams. So a 32% statistic. I may be off on something as this was just a quick compilation, but I guarantee that True's marketing team is fudging how they come up with those statistics. It has to be the inclusion of their skates. True Stats.xlsx Edited February 19 by coopaloop1234 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chenner29 556 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 53 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: I"m obviously too lazy to actually do the research myself, but does that 41% mean full sets (pads/gloves)? Or just a piece? 31 * .41 = 12.71 So we gotta find 12 goalies and almost 3/4 of one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chenner29 556 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: So I decided, at the determent of my actual work, to take a quick survey to see how accurate True's marketing was. This is only considering STARTERS and that's based off of who has the most games played currently. Out of all the starters, only 9 goalies were wearing full True sets (pads/gloves) and one was wearing a single piece of True gear that differentiates from his normal set (Blackwood). Even if we wanted to count the mismatched piece, that leaves us with 10 goalies out of 31 teams. So a 32% statistic. I may be off on something as this was just a quick compilation, but I guarantee that True's marketing team is fudging how they come up with those statistics. It has to be the inclusion of their skates. True Stats.xlsx 10.79 kB · 1 download I'm guessing they probably switched some people around. Not sure if these guys are actually starting or not as I haven't really been following Bernier - Detroit Edmonton - Smith Nashville - Rinne Florida - Bobrovsky is partially in True Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coopaloop1234 1,937 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 25 minutes ago, Chenner29 said: I'm guessing they probably switched some people around. Not sure if these guys are actually starting or not as I haven't really been following Bernier - Detroit Edmonton - Smith Nashville - Rinne Florida - Bobrovsky is partially in True Bernie and Smith are the backups. Saros has one extra game over Rinne Is Bob wearing True gloves? I though he was still rocking a full set of eflex 4's? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colander 202 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 So what you're saying is, it's not True (someone had to say it) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike24 229 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Well played @Colander Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A.YOUNGoalie13 129 Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 23 hours ago, coopaloop1234 said: Bernie and Smith are the backups. Saros has one extra game over Rinne Is Bob wearing True gloves? I though he was still rocking a full set of eflex 4's? Bob’s setup is really ugly. All white true pads, ccm glove and blocker with the color zones from last year which already didn’t match. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A.YOUNGoalie13 129 Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 23 hours ago, Chenner29 said: 31 * .41 = 12.71 So we gotta find 12 goalies and almost 3/4 of one 12 are not in true? Well for that start in LA. Everyone there is in vaughn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaveByRichter35 987 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/16/2021 at 9:07 PM, Mike24 said: Aren’t we all just tired of Pierre Maguire period. This Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky Pucker 807 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/16/2021 at 7:33 PM, WillyGrips13 said: Is anyone else tired of hearing Pierre Maguire blame everything on the goalies? I am. Although, I suppose I could have ended the sentence after his name. Ed Olczyk is the same way. It seems to be a thing among the colour commentators who have never played the position that I’ve noticed with CBC/TSN commentators too, whereby they try to overcompensate for their lack of familiarity by throwing a few buzz words like “into the butterfly “ into a faulty critique. A non goalie reviewing a replay of a goal, and saying the goalie did X too early/late, and should have just done Y is like reviewing all of a skater’s shots that missed/were saved, and saying “he just should have scored.” I find it especially egregious and irritating with Craig Simpson, but they seem to all do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky Pucker 807 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 16 hours ago, SaveByRichter35 said: This Pierre McGuire isn’t tired of Pierre McGuire! 😃 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A.YOUNGoalie13 129 Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 On 2/16/2021 at 6:33 PM, WillyGrips13 said: Is anyone else tired of hearing Pierre Maguire blame everything on the goalies? I am. Although, I suppose I could have ended the sentence after his name. Ed Olczyk is the same way. Living in chicago, I hate the hawks broadcast team. Jamal Mayers and doofus one and two blamed delia earlier this year for a uncontested shot in the slot after blaming for another goal where 6’5 zadorov ran delia over. Add Eddie O to that dumpster fire and anything over two goals and you should be out of the league. Except for Lankinen. They must like him cuz they suck him off every night 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Puckstopper 269 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 6 hours ago, A.YOUNGoalie13 said: Living in chicago, I hate the hawks broadcast team. Jamal Mayers and doofus one and two blamed delia earlier this year for a uncontested shot in the slot after blaming for another goal where 6’5 zadorov ran delia over. Add Eddie O to that dumpster fire and anything over two goals and you should be out of the league. Except for Lankinen. They must like him cuz they suck him off every night In fairness, I've watched more Hawks games this year than just about any other team outside my Wings, and Lankinen has been the number one reason that team has had any success. He's damn good! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A.YOUNGoalie13 129 Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 3 hours ago, Puckstopper said: In fairness, I've watched more Hawks games this year than just about any other team outside my Wings, and Lankinen has been the number one reason that team has had any success. He's damn good! Don’t get me wrong, I know lankinen is good but the announcer hated on Delia so bad and he really played pretty well they just threw him in to a bunch of games where the team played awful for him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MTH 814 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Sharp. So sharp - it kinda looks like road/street hockey gear. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike24 229 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 @MTHthat was my first thought Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glenplum 7 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I agree. I have always thought that is the number one downfall of the DigiPrint stuff from Bauer. I present Exhibit A. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coopaloop1234 1,937 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 58 minutes ago, glenplum said: I agree. I have always thought that is the number one downfall of the DigiPrint stuff from Bauer. I present Exhibit A. The Digi-Print has definitely come a long way from it's first iterations. I remember a lot of the earlier stuff having a very washed out look to them like the Anderson ones above. Even these black ones from The Hockey Shop were very washed out in person. They've definitely improved on fine tuning their saturation on the pads. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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