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On 11/10/2017 at 2:46 PM, TheGoalNet said:

It sounds like Passau is the only company left without a uniform a paddle height with the industry. Great info! 

The other way around. Passau is (one of) the only one(s) with a paddle height that is measured in actual inches. The rest of the industry needs to start doing that. 

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Passau Custom Foam Core w/ Heavy 21 Shaft

WEIGHT: 851g (weighed prior to taping)

LIE ANGLE: 63 (117)

COLOR SHAFT : BLACK 
COLOR PADDLE : BLACK 
COLOR LOGOINLINE: NO PAINT 
COLOR LOGOOUTLINE: ANTIQUE GOLD PITTSBURGH 
SHAFT: HEAVY21 
FLEX: REGULAR 
SIDE: REGULAR 
CURVE: C6 
SIZE SHAFT : 28" (Actual 28.25")
SIZE PADDLE : 27,5" (Actual  27.25")

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Bauer 2S Pro (Stock Retail)

WEIGHT: 638g (weighed prior to taping)

LIE ANGLE: 60 (120)

COLOR SHAFT : BLACK (1) RED (1) 
COLOR PADDLE : BLACK (1) RED (1)  
COLOR LOGOINLINE: WHITE 
COLOR LOGOOUTLINE: BLACK (1) RED (1)  
SHAFT: 12K FULL CARBON CONSTRUCTION 
FLEX: N/A
SIDE: REGULAR 
CURVE: P31 
SIZE SHAFT : STOCK (Actual 30")
SIZE PADDLE : 25" (Actual  27,125")

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Actual Lie Comparison

Albeit rudimentary... I downloaded a protractor app... snapped some picture... so I could share what I found when comparing two sticks of nearly identical paddle heights when the lie differs. As noted in posts just thrown up... the Passau Foam Core has an actual paddle length of 27.5" and a lie of 63 (117) while the Bauer 2S Pro has an actual paddle length of 27.25" and a lie of 60 (120.) Worth noting is that grip shapes are nearly identical as well. 

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First step was to get each blade laying as flat as possible then line up heals. (My apologies for the use of a black piece of furniture when taking pictures of a black stick.) At that point I used a green ball at the toes of the 2S Pro from sliding further out, and a blue ball under the shaft of the Passau to maintain it's Lie Angle when heals were lined up.

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We immediately see the difference 3 degrees makes as the Passau is at a steeper angle and the visible portion of the stick gets more pronounced the further up you go. Now for the important part... how is it changing the grip position. Again, keeping in mind these sticks are marginally different in paddle length, you can clearly see a decent effect it has on grip position down and out. Taking measurements from where the shaft and paddle meet on each stick... I saw a .25" push outward... and a .75" push downward. Thus... even when they're nearly identical paddle heights... the 2S Pro "PLAYS SHORTER" 

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Sidenote... anxious to get the playhouse (which has turned into a storage facility for oversized stuffed animals and extra mini sticks) out of the basement. So shoot me some offers if you're interested in making the investment.

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On 11/10/2017 at 5:46 PM, TheGoalNet said:

It sounds like Passau is the only company left without a uniform a paddle height with the industry. Great info! 

Anyone on if a P41 Sher-Wood is close to a P31 Bauer?

isnt the sherwood p41 like a toe curve, while bauer p31 is a mid?

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Bauer TotalOne NXG (Pro Stock)

Made for Tyler Marble of Colorado College

WEIGHT: 728g (weighed prior to taping)

COLOR SHAFT : SPORT GOLD 
COLOR PADDLE : WEAVE 
COLOR LOGO: WHITE
PADDLE/BLADE MATERIAL: INNEGRA W/ CARBON REINFOREMENT 
SHAFT: CARBON COMPOSITE 
GRIP: GRIPTAC 
PADDLE: ERGO PADDLE 
CURVE: P31 
SIZE SHAFT : N/A (Actual 30.00")
SIZE PADDLE : 27.5" (Actual  27.75")

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What is more similar to Bauer's P31, CCM Price or Crawford? (EF4 only comes in these 2)

Also, which of those is better for shooting?

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Per the first post, a 25” 2s pro should be a 25” True 6.0. What’s the comparable size in the Eflex 4?

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Posted (edited)

I've been away from playing for awhile about 4 years and latley as i scour all the equipment store websites the selection of brands is frustrating. I have 2 cheap Bauer sticks that i like but they'll need to be replaced soon.. i know i can get a couple more months out of them but they're going soft. 

I want to try a new brand. I wish there were more brand options available. Saw a really nice Vaughn and the True's look good. 

Looking for 25" paddle along the lines of a P30 or possibly PP41.

My favorite stick was an Itech stick patterned after Brent Johnson when he was on the Blues. That one always felt just right. 

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44 minutes ago, Scythe said:

I've been away from playing for awhile about 4 years and latley as i scour all the equipment store websites the selection of brands is frustrating. I have 2 cheap Bauer sticks that i like but they'll need to be replaced soon.. i know i can get a couple more months out of them but they're going soft. 

I want to try a new brand. I wish there were more brand options available. Saw a really nice Vaughn and the True's look good. 

Looking for 25" paddle along the lines of a P30 or possibly PP41.

My favorite stick was an Itech stick patterned after Brent Johnson when he was on the Blues. That one always felt just right. 

I have the eflex 4 and like it. Also, highly recommend Bauer supreme sticks.

IMO Bauer makes the best sticks.

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Hi, I have a few questions about the goalie sticks.

1. Which curve in WARRIOR is same as Bauer P31 curve ?

2. Warrior don’t sell Rask curve anymore. And which curve is more similar RASK curve in rest of 3 curves?

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3 hours ago, Leo said:

Hi, I have a few questions about the goalie sticks.

1. Which curve in WARRIOR is same as Bauer P31 curve ?

2. Warrior don’t sell Rask curve anymore. And which curve is more similar RASK curve in rest of 3 curves?

Hi Leo,

1. Our Bishop (TWT) pattern is closest to the P31 curve

2. From the standpoint of having an "open toe" the Mrazek (WDG) pattern would be most similar performance wise to the Rask.  Very noticeable difference between Mrazek/Rask is that Mrazek has a rounded toe while Rask did not. 

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@Kirk3190 Really thanks to you. That's really helpful. In Asia, there are not too many choices and can measure the curve. 

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On 8/15/2019 at 2:28 PM, Leo said:

@Kirk3190 Really thanks to you. That's really helpful. In Asia, there are not too many choices and can measure the curve. 

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Hi, what is similar RASK curve in CCM\Reebok line ?

Holtby? Fleury?

thanks 

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55 minutes ago, Leo said:

Hi, what is similar RASK curve in CCM\Reebok line ?

Holtby? Fleury?

thanks 

I think your best best a P31ish which is Crawford. I don't think CCM will have something exactly the same at Retail.

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