IPv6Freely Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 On 11/10/2017 at 2:46 PM, TheGoalNet said: It sounds like Passau is the only company left without a uniform a paddle height with the industry. Great info! The other way around. Passau is (one of) the only one(s) with a paddle height that is measured in actual inches. The rest of the industry needs to start doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAngle41 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Passau Custom Foam Core w/ Heavy 21 Shaft WEIGHT: 851g (weighed prior to taping) LIE ANGLE: 63 (117) COLOR SHAFT : BLACK COLOR PADDLE : BLACK COLOR LOGOINLINE: NO PAINT COLOR LOGOOUTLINE: ANTIQUE GOLD PITTSBURGH SHAFT: HEAVY21 FLEX: REGULAR SIDE: REGULAR CURVE: C6 SIZE SHAFT : 28" (Actual 28.25")SIZE PADDLE : 27,5" (Actual 27.25") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAngle41 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Bauer 2S Pro (Stock Retail) WEIGHT: 638g (weighed prior to taping) LIE ANGLE: 60 (120) COLOR SHAFT : BLACK (1) RED (1) COLOR PADDLE : BLACK (1) RED (1) COLOR LOGOINLINE: WHITE COLOR LOGOOUTLINE: BLACK (1) RED (1) SHAFT: 12K FULL CARBON CONSTRUCTION FLEX: N/ASIDE: REGULAR CURVE: P31 SIZE SHAFT : STOCK (Actual 30")SIZE PADDLE : 25" (Actual 27,125") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAngle41 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Actual Lie Comparison Albeit rudimentary... I downloaded a protractor app... snapped some picture... so I could share what I found when comparing two sticks of nearly identical paddle heights when the lie differs. As noted in posts just thrown up... the Passau Foam Core has an actual paddle length of 27.5" and a lie of 63 (117) while the Bauer 2S Pro has an actual paddle length of 27.25" and a lie of 60 (120.) Worth noting is that grip shapes are nearly identical as well. First step was to get each blade laying as flat as possible then line up heals. (My apologies for the use of a black piece of furniture when taking pictures of a black stick.) At that point I used a green ball at the toes of the 2S Pro from sliding further out, and a blue ball under the shaft of the Passau to maintain it's Lie Angle when heals were lined up. We immediately see the difference 3 degrees makes as the Passau is at a steeper angle and the visible portion of the stick gets more pronounced the further up you go. Now for the important part... how is it changing the grip position. Again, keeping in mind these sticks are marginally different in paddle length, you can clearly see a decent effect it has on grip position down and out. Taking measurements from where the shaft and paddle meet on each stick... I saw a .25" push outward... and a .75" push downward. Thus... even when they're nearly identical paddle heights... the 2S Pro "PLAYS SHORTER" Sidenote... anxious to get the playhouse (which has turned into a storage facility for oversized stuffed animals and extra mini sticks) out of the basement. So shoot me some offers if you're interested in making the investment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max27 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 On 11/10/2017 at 5:46 PM, TheGoalNet said: It sounds like Passau is the only company left without a uniform a paddle height with the industry. Great info! Anyone on if a P41 Sher-Wood is close to a P31 Bauer? isnt the sherwood p41 like a toe curve, while bauer p31 is a mid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAngle41 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Taken from the interweb... PP41 is more of a toe curve. Bauer P31 is more a mid open curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAngle41 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Bauer TotalOne NXG (Pro Stock) Made for Tyler Marble of Colorado College WEIGHT: 728g (weighed prior to taping) COLOR SHAFT : SPORT GOLD COLOR PADDLE : WEAVE COLOR LOGO: WHITEPADDLE/BLADE MATERIAL: INNEGRA W/ CARBON REINFOREMENT SHAFT: CARBON COMPOSITE GRIP: GRIPTAC PADDLE: ERGO PADDLE CURVE: P31 SIZE SHAFT : N/A (Actual 30.00")SIZE PADDLE : 27.5" (Actual 27.75") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter36 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 What is more similar to Bauer's P31, CCM Price or Crawford? (EF4 only comes in these 2) Also, which of those is better for shooting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey3081 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Per the first post, a 25” 2s pro should be a 25” True 6.0. What’s the comparable size in the Eflex 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scythe Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) I've been away from playing for awhile about 4 years and latley as i scour all the equipment store websites the selection of brands is frustrating. I have 2 cheap Bauer sticks that i like but they'll need to be replaced soon.. i know i can get a couple more months out of them but they're going soft. I want to try a new brand. I wish there were more brand options available. Saw a really nice Vaughn and the True's look good. Looking for 25" paddle along the lines of a P30 or possibly PP41. My favorite stick was an Itech stick patterned after Brent Johnson when he was on the Blues. That one always felt just right. Edited July 17, 2019 by Scythe Mi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter36 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Scythe said: I've been away from playing for awhile about 4 years and latley as i scour all the equipment store websites the selection of brands is frustrating. I have 2 cheap Bauer sticks that i like but they'll need to be replaced soon.. i know i can get a couple more months out of them but they're going soft. I want to try a new brand. I wish there were more brand options available. Saw a really nice Vaughn and the True's look good. Looking for 25" paddle along the lines of a P30 or possibly PP41. My favorite stick was an Itech stick patterned after Brent Johnson when he was on the Blues. That one always felt just right. I have the eflex 4 and like it. Also, highly recommend Bauer supreme sticks. IMO Bauer makes the best sticks. Edited July 17, 2019 by Peter36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Hi, I have a few questions about the goalie sticks. 1. Which curve in WARRIOR is same as Bauer P31 curve ? 2. Warrior don’t sell Rask curve anymore. And which curve is more similar RASK curve in rest of 3 curves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk3190 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Leo said: Hi, I have a few questions about the goalie sticks. 1. Which curve in WARRIOR is same as Bauer P31 curve ? 2. Warrior don’t sell Rask curve anymore. And which curve is more similar RASK curve in rest of 3 curves? Hi Leo, 1. Our Bishop (TWT) pattern is closest to the P31 curve 2. From the standpoint of having an "open toe" the Mrazek (WDG) pattern would be most similar performance wise to the Rask. Very noticeable difference between Mrazek/Rask is that Mrazek has a rounded toe while Rask did not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 @Kirk3190 Really thanks to you. That's really helpful. In Asia, there are not too many choices and can measure the curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk3190 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 2:28 PM, Leo said: @Kirk3190 Really thanks to you. That's really helpful. In Asia, there are not too many choices and can measure the curve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Hi, what is similar RASK curve in CCM\Reebok line ? Holtby? Fleury? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 55 minutes ago, Leo said: Hi, what is similar RASK curve in CCM\Reebok line ? Holtby? Fleury? thanks I think your best best a P31ish which is Crawford. I don't think CCM will have something exactly the same at Retail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenC Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Does anyone know how the True sticks measure up when compared with their listed size and the way to measure like the picture? Or CCM or Bauer sticks? Currently using 26" Frontier 9985G that measure 27.5". Seemingly they are discontinued and currently can't get anymore. This seems to correspond with a 26" Warrior but have some good options on others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Anyone got to use the JRZ ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD40 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Does anyone know which CCM stick is closest to Bauer’s Supreme lines? I’ve used Bauer for the last couple years and loved them, but I have to use CCM next year so I’m wondering if the EFlex line or Axis is closest to an Ultrasonic stick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie T Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 35 minutes ago, WD40 said: Does anyone know which CCM stick is closest to Bauer’s Supreme lines? I’ve used Bauer for the last couple years and loved them, but I have to use CCM next year so I’m wondering if the EFlex line or Axis is closest to an Ultrasonic stick I Believe Eflex is closest due to its "soft flex" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Here is an example of paddle length discrepancy between brands and within same brands. All the sticks pictured are listed as 25. The first 2 sticks are from JRZ, same model, just different color. The 3rd pic is a Warrior VR2. There seems to be a 1/2 inch difference between both the JRZ sticks and a full inch difference with the Warrior stick. This seems to follow the same issues we face with leg pad length from one brand to another. I wish there was an established standard to avoid said discrepancy when ordering/buying sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 The difference within both JRZ sticks is very alarming. That shouldn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 10 hours ago, SaveByRichter35 said: The difference within both JRZ sticks is very alarming. That shouldn't happen. I know. It's hard to find consistency in twigs anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/17/2021 at 11:07 AM, RichMan said: Here is an example of paddle length discrepancy between brands and within same brands. All the sticks pictured are listed as 25. The first 2 sticks are from JRZ, same model, just different color. The 3rd pic is a Warrior VR2. There seems to be a 1/2 inch difference between both the JRZ sticks and a full inch difference with the Warrior stick. This seems to follow the same issues we face with leg pad length from one brand to another. I wish there was an established standard to avoid said discrepancy when ordering/buying sticks. So I put each stick flush to the wall via the paddle edge and the difference is remarkable and disappointing at the same time. The first mark, #1, is the white JRZ stick. The second mark, #2, is the natural JRZ stick. The third mark, #3, is the Warrior stick. Keep in mind that they are all sold as 25". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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