MTH Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 Is this for real? Wow. ASU opened the place. The black ceiling with the lights kinda makes it look bigger than it is. I assume the players will still use the standard locker rooms that every rink has. But the NHL has added space for the players to warm up and do other things now. So using the practice rink for that maybe makes sense. Teams have an army of support people from trainers to massage people. College teams travel pretty large too. I've been at the 80 rink at Lake Placid for regionals and the teams have stuff going on in every nook and cranny in that place. NHL team? You need the spare rink for the space. If you look at the model - there are numerous regular locker rooms. I'm thinking they will all be used but the spare rink will be where the team meets as a whole too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Coyotes Locker Room. On par to pretty much every local rink here in Vancouver. The "Finished" product for the temporary visitor dressing rooms: Complete with video: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTH Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 Woof. I mean, at least it's indoors I guess... Even the old guys from the 70s minor league teams are laughing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubby34 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 On 8/4/2022 at 3:13 PM, MTH said: I've wondered when pro sports may move away from larger arenas. Basically have them play in tv studios with a live audience. This arena may be the first of what may come. Modern sports stadiums have fewer seats than decades ago. For obvious reasons - going to the game isn't really required for the best way to see the game. Yotes playing in a small place that's full may be amazing on tv. Supply and demand for tickets is crucial here. As a fan, going to a 5k seat arena would be great. Less traffic, smaller crowd. All seats have great view. Baseball has already shifted this way. Stadiums are smaller with the people paying more to go (clubs, suites, etc. just make more expensive too). You load up the broadcast with ads. Fans are paying a ton to watch it on tv or however they stream. NASCAR too has evolved to smaller seating (less were going anyway). So they have to make the tv experience better (quirky tracks) and make their money from quality over quantity. I could see more NHL teams moving this direction in the future. The Jets are doing ok with it. Who wouldn't like to see the Hawks move out of a 22k seat stadium and back to a smaller venue? Or the Bruins in a Garden size place again? The general assumption is that's what everyone assumed would happen post covid. Less seats, more of an emphasis on TV angles and views, and squeeze the seats in where they can make money but ensure the TV rights deals are favored. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubby34 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 On 8/5/2022 at 2:48 PM, MTH said: Here's the whole complex: It's a killer spot. AC has casinos right on the boardwalk. But the rest of the city is ghetto. When my kids have games at AC - we go out on to the runways and drive. I was trying to get my Jeep over 100 mph - but the runways are short and if you overrun them, you're in the bay. The city has been kicking around proposals for the entire site for decades. Still nothing new. That looks like a great place to put a third MLB team in the NY/NJ area. Now that I think about it, weren't the Florida Marlins exploring this exact site in 2001/2002 when MLB was exploring contraction and the team exploring moving? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTH Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 hours ago, tubby34 said: That looks like a great place to put a third MLB team in the NY/NJ area. Now that I think about it, weren't the Florida Marlins exploring this exact site in 2001/2002 when MLB was exploring contraction and the team exploring moving? It's far from NYC. About a 2 hour drive. AC is more Philly media area than NYC. NJ is unofficially split (north jersey / south jersey) by where you get your news from (Philly/ NYC). Or basically I-195. AC is south of 195. As for the Marlins - never heard that before. I recall that they were looking at Vegas and Portland as options. The A's are going to move to Vegas finally. There were rumors too that the Marlins were looking at Virginia (before the Expos moved to DC). The AC baseball stadium wasn't supported by the area when they had cheap minor league baseball. No way MLB would go there. The stadium is about an hour east of Philly too. MLB teams have regions that they are in control of. This would have to be approved by the Phillies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTH Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 hours ago, tubby34 said: The general assumption is that's what everyone assumed would happen post covid. Less seats, more of an emphasis on TV angles and views, and squeeze the seats in where they can make money but ensure the TV rights deals are favored. This is what NASCAR is doing. They peaked in the late 90/ early 2000s. Owners built more stands for all the people. Fans filled these places. NASCAR moved races from small tracks to the big ones. It was great. Then people stopped coming. Fans stopped watching. NASCAR adjusted (and still are) to reducing stands at tracks and moving races from the behemoth tracks that were boring to watch. Heck, next year, NASCAR is holding their mid-season all star race at North Wilksboro that NASCAR abandoned in the 90s and the fans (and Junior) pushed for NASCAR to return to. NASCAR was forced to adjust or die. I can see all pro sports kinda heading that way too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTH Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 This looks bad on tv: Which isn't what tv wants to show: This is normal Bristol crowd: Even Daytona was adjusted. All the grandstands along the backstretch were removed a few years ago. Same at other tracks like Phoenix: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvuviv30 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 On 11/1/2022 at 1:54 PM, MTH said: This looks bad on tv: Which isn't what tv wants to show: This is normal Bristol crowd: Even Daytona was adjusted. All the grandstands along the backstretch were removed a few years ago. Same at other tracks like Phoenix: But Daytona built a new grandstand that could set everyone on the front straight away instead of all around the track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTH Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 True. They did lose 50,000 seats in the renovations. Crazy that they had an estimated 200,000 people at the Daytona 500 in 2006. That's more than the Coyotes 2021-2022 total attendance for the season (joking). But many tracks reduced seating capacities in the past decade. At the same time, providing a better experience for the people that attend. Coyotes are basically doing that here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman30 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 I could not stop laughing... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 You almost can't make this stuff up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTH Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 I was looking at the NHL attendances for this year so far. From: https://www.hockey-reference.com/friv/attendance.cgi Flyers are 6th worst. Not surprised. But the average attendance for the Coyotes wasn't 100%. They average 4600 out of 5000 seats. No way? Are they holding seats open or are they only drawing 4600 per game. Maybe they knew what they were doing when they ok'd the move to a 5000 seat venue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) Well... Just got news that the team has been sold to the Utah Jazz owner and that he intends to move the team there, providing he builds an appropriate arena within the next 5 years. So the league falls short at 31 for the next little while? Will there be a mad scramble to fill in the gap? Will Québec finally have their chance? Or will Bettman screw us over again with another American team franchise? Either way, this will affect the schedule for next season no doubt. Edited April 18 by RichMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTH Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 Think they will go with "Utah" or "Salt Lake City"? I like the 'Johnny Utahs' personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 I'm just happy the NHL can stop "Weekend at Bernie's"-ing this Franchise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerd31 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) 3 hours ago, RichMan said: Well... Just got news that the team has been sold to the Utah Jazz owner and that he intends to move the team there, providing he builds an appropriate arena within the next 5 years. So the league falls short at 31 for the next little while? Will there be a mad scramble to fill in the gap? Will Québec finally have their chance? Or will Bettman screw us over again with another American team franchise? Either way, this will affect the schedule for next season no doubt. ?? There are still 32 teams. Utah will play where the Jazz do until they build a new stadium. I’d bet they go to 34 in the next 5 years, with Atlanta getting a(nother) team and either Phx if Muerello gets a stadium built or they do Houston. Edited April 18 by jerd31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman30 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Arizona players now.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncho Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 4 hours ago, MTH said: Think they will go with "Utah" or "Salt Lake City"? I like the 'Johnny Utahs' personally. The Phoenix Utah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 4 hours ago, MTH said: Think they will go with "Utah" or "Salt Lake City"? I like the 'Johnny Utahs' personally. Utah Roadrunners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Utah Salts ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.YOUNGoalie13 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Stormin Mormons has my pick 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTH Posted yesterday at 04:31 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 04:31 PM Since their basketball team is called the Jazz (relocated team from New Orleans decades ago). Maybe just go with the Utah Whalers or Salt Lake City Surfers. More odd the better. Is Salt Lake City Crackers inappropriate? Nickname them the 'Saltines'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted yesterday at 04:35 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:35 PM How about the Salt Lake Golden Seals? There's seals in a landlocked state right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman30 Posted yesterday at 06:22 PM Share Posted yesterday at 06:22 PM (edited) Salt Lakes Shakers.. Edited yesterday at 06:24 PM by Snowman30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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