Math. Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Smith & Allen: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troppa Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I'm very curious if anyone has any hands on experience with the Kenesky units that seem to be floating around the NHL now-I think there is at least 5 of them in pretty regular play now, and the pro's seem to like them-I'm very curious as to why. I posted a picture a few months ago of the Vaughn unit that Steve Mason was using-I now own that unit, along with about five other pro return units from various players (Mason, Mrazek, Cam Ward) and frankly, the arm protection on all of those is suspect at best, and these are all a few years old. The Mason units aren't ones I could try for myself-he's a giant, I'm 5'11, but I was able to play in the Mrazek unit, and got hit with a typical beer league slapshot in the arm, and that thing hurt, much more than getting hit in my LT 98 does right now. Essentially, with all the players complaining about how their arm pieces are dangerous, I don't know how much more the NHL could have reduced the current units compared to what I've seen from the above 3 players and their old units that I have sitting in my basement. I used that Mrazek unit once, and wouldn't use it again because the arms were just too weak for me to feel safe against a bunch of beer league hacks. If their stuff got cut beyond that, then they have every reason to complain, and should be scared. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Troppa said: I'm very curious if anyone has any hands on experience with the Kenesky units that seem to be floating around the NHL now-I think there is at least 5 of them in pretty regular play now, and the pro's seem to like them-I'm very curious as to why. Edited November 9, 2018 by coopaloop1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 3:06 PM, Troppa said: I'm very curious if anyone has any hands on experience with the Kenesky units that seem to be floating around the NHL now-I think there is at least 5 of them in pretty regular play now, and the pro's seem to like them-I'm very curious as to why. I posted a picture a few months ago of the Vaughn unit that Steve Mason was using-I now own that unit, along with about five other pro return units from various players (Mason, Mrazek, Cam Ward) and frankly, the arm protection on all of those is suspect at best, and these are all a few years old. The Mason units aren't ones I could try for myself-he's a giant, I'm 5'11, but I was able to play in the Mrazek unit, and got hit with a typical beer league slapshot in the arm, and that thing hurt, much more than getting hit in my LT 98 does right now. Essentially, with all the players complaining about how their arm pieces are dangerous, I don't know how much more the NHL could have reduced the current units compared to what I've seen from the above 3 players and their old units that I have sitting in my basement. I used that Mrazek unit once, and wouldn't use it again because the arms were just too weak for me to feel safe against a bunch of beer league hacks. If their stuff got cut beyond that, then they have every reason to complain, and should be scared. One thing I want to point out is that these pro used chest and arm units generally go a full season, sometimes two, before replacement. Given the caliber and volume of shots they take, amount of sweat, and general use and abuse from being shoved in a bag for several hours at a time on road trips...you are bound to get a broken down unit at the end of its lifecycle. There is one Kenesky Craig Anderson pro return unit in the hands of a member, it was linked in the post above mine. And while we are on the subject of these new, slimmed down units being "dangerous," here is a Bauer prototype that showed up on my Facebook feed. Those arm floaters are appalling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanG Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Chenner29 said: One thing I want to point out is that these pro used chest and arm units generally go a full season, sometimes two, before replacement. Given the caliber and volume of shots they take, amount of sweat, and general use and abuse from being shoved in a bag for several hours at a time on road trips...you are bound to get a broken down unit at the end of its lifecycle. There is one Kenesky Craig Anderson pro return unit in the hands of a member, it was linked in the post above mine. And while we are on the subject of these new, slimmed down units being "dangerous," here is a Bauer prototype that showed up on my Facebook feed. Those arm floaters are appalling! That looks a helluva more slimmed down than the current ones. Looks like something for ball hockey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oilking97 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just came across this thread! As some of you may have seen in my other thread, I'm looking for some reference on Martin Jones' 2018 chest protector- this image is the closest I've found, but if anyone has anything from practice or in the locker room that shows the full protector, it would be much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell31 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 John Brown has made a streamlined NHL spec for Samsonov. He posted a picture on Instagram. Could be a game changer for Brown to be back in the NHL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Its old. He sent me the picture back in October. Idk why he never posted to social media until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, SaveByRichter35 said: Its old. He sent me the picture back in October. Idk why he never posted to social media until now. I was in contact them. I tried to get them active on this site. I believe John's son was the person I corresponded with. Basically John doesn't see the value in or care about social media. His son does and was doing it as a favor to his dad, but he didnt't have the time to devote to it to do it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigm Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 4:45 PM, Chenner29 said: One thing I want to point out is that these pro used chest and arm units generally go a full season, sometimes two, before replacement. Given the caliber and volume of shots they take, amount of sweat, and general use and abuse from being shoved in a bag for several hours at a time on road trips...you are bound to get a broken down unit at the end of its lifecycle. There is one Kenesky Craig Anderson pro return unit in the hands of a member, it was linked in the post above mine. And while we are on the subject of these new, slimmed down units being "dangerous," here is a Bauer prototype that showed up on my Facebook feed. Those arm floaters are appalling! It's a really slimmed down version the arm looks like the arm off a vapor with the curve put on a 2s chest for added protection. For vaughn pro units in the arms they add an extra layer of foam to deaden the blow of shots but i think that they wear down pretty quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 7 hours ago, thebigm said: It's a really slimmed down version the arm looks like the arm off a vapor with the curve put on a 2s chest for added protection. For vaughn pro units in the arms they add an extra layer of foam to deaden the blow of shots but i think that they wear down pretty quickly. I'd like to see what manufacturers are doing with the arms moving forward, as that seems the biggest point of complaint for goalies in the league. Part of me wonders why players can't get a reduction in shinpads as well - if anyone has seen new ones, they are pretty damn beefy. I'm also wondering if the stitched down portion of the arm is the culprit, I've highlighted that zone in blue. It seems like this is a dead zone for padding, and am wondering if manufacturers could cushion that point on the inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigm Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 26 minutes ago, Chenner29 said: I'd like to see what manufacturers are doing with the arms moving forward, as that seems the biggest point of complaint for goalies in the league. Part of me wonders why players can't get a reduction in shinpads as well - if anyone has seen new ones, they are pretty damn beefy. I'm also wondering if the stitched down portion of the arm is the culprit, I've highlighted that zone in blue. It seems like this is a dead zone for padding, and am wondering if manufacturers could cushion that point on the inside. not too sure I think it was Elliot that complained if he wasn't squared to the shot he would feel it in the arm. I don't think they are getting the wrap they use to? Don't quote me on that as I haven't seen an NHL piece up close to dissect the issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, thebigm said: not too sure I think it was Elliot that complained if he wasn't squared to the shot he would feel it in the arm. I don't think they are getting the wrap they use to? Don't quote me on that as I haven't seen an NHL piece up close to dissect the issues. I tried on a CCM “New Spec” Premier in the off season. Unfortunately, I didn’t know what to look and focused on the smaller floaters. Need to try and get one to mess around with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thebigm Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 13 hours ago, TheGoalNet said: I tried on a CCM “New Spec” Premier in the off season. Unfortunately, I didn’t know what to look and focused on the smaller floaters. Need to try and get one to mess around with... I haven't even got my hands on one unfortunately! I did get to see the knee pads they offer the pros in a special pro catalog but that was about it. I don't mind the segments in the new floater i think it would allow you to see better side to side. I just don't like how the arms are and wished they were laced in so you can adust it better that way as elastic wears out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mroy31 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 So is Vaughn building new spec versions of old models for guys like Jones and Bobrovsky? Or are they just getting their existing ones modded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigm Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mroy31 said: So is Vaughn building new spec versions of old models for guys like Jones and Bobrovsky? Or are they just getting their existing ones modded? Im pretty sure they are building legacy models for them as they never throw out the dyes(sp?) for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Mroy31 said: So is Vaughn building new spec versions of old models for guys like Jones and Bobrovsky? Or are they just getting their existing ones modded? 1 hour ago, thebigm said: Im pretty sure they are building legacy models for them as they never throw out the dyes(sp?) for them Correct, from Vaughn directly - They can make any legacy model to comply with the new specs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mroy31 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 @thebigm @TheGoalNet Thanks. Makes more sense after thinking about it for a bit, seeing the V2 pads they built for that customer at Proskategoal, and that this is Vaughn we're talking about. TGN you should follow up that seal post on IG with those V2s and their thigh rise for comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilking97 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Good news! I reached out to Vaughn and got the detailed stats sheet for Jones' legacy V5-do you guys want me to post it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 28 minutes ago, oilking97 said: Good news! I reached out to Vaughn and got the detailed stats sheet for Jones' legacy V5-do you guys want me to post it? Neverhurts... What is the particular interest in this exact C&A? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilking97 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said: Neverhurts... What is the particular interest in this exact C&A? I think I mentioned it in my actual topic, but I'm working with a friend on a custom Jones figurine and I'm tryin to make it as accurate as possible, even down to the equipment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, oilking97 said: I think I mentioned it in my actual topic, but I'm working with a friend on a custom Jones figurine and I'm tryin to make it as accurate as possible, even down to the equipment Yes, I do remember that now. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, oilking97 said: Good news! I reached out to Vaughn and got the detailed stats sheet for Jones' legacy V5-do you guys want me to post it? Yes, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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