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The Jets heritage are too big
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Did they just get these? I want a pair but if Canadian companies get them I'll order there.
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I love how pro your team looks!
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The Vertexx cutout was a big step, I don't know if Bauer was the first with the cowlingless design or if that should be attributed to the Swiss custom skate makers. I am not sure if those were cowlingless first or to a similar degree. But Bauer was definitely the first to bring it the mass market.
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@IPv6Freely is right. The boot is all one piece with decoration pieces put on top. The eyelits are also carbon fibre and mold to your foot unlike Bauer which sew on the eyelits.
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So to be pedantic... Explaining a Bauer skate like that is really simplifying it. VH/True is basically a boot, and toe cap with an midsole. Bauer is quater package, midsole, outsole, toe cap, lacing. The new True skates added a layer of plastic on the heel and toe instead of placing the holder right onto the carbon boot, but it can be removed and is evidently there to keep the heel from chipping. If you don't order a holder the heel part doesn't come with the skates and it is a pure carbon heel.
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While I agree Vertexx was huge and Bauer has been great for goalie innovation in removing the cowling. Other companies have done more recently in terms of skate tech than Bauer has... Kor was a carbon boot before Bauer, pretty sure Easton was the first one to the market though. MLX was the first successful skate without an outsole before CCM. In the player skate world, CCM is leading retail in terms of tech, while Bauer keeps pumping out features many people opt out of on custom skates (and pro skates) like injected eyelids, flex tendon guard, plastic/rubberized tongue protection.
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The problem with looking at VH for skate tech is that you can't forget the MLX innovations either. Since they were basically the same idea. MLX didn't invent the one piece outsole and carbon fibre boot. That was Kor, but MLX made them popular and enough so that Easton bought MLX and created the Mako. MLX had a very flexible tendon guard and a very different skate construction in terms of the skate profile and stock pitch of the skate. A Mako and a Bauer skate are very different in how they are shaped and it is not just how the boot wraps the foot. Also, while Curv is a good feature, Graf used to constantly state that it is nothing but a plastic and would burn the material like the infamous burning of Vaughns carbon inserts. The carbon used in MLX skates could and probably should be considered a higher quality material. CCM has done a good job brining a one piece outsole to the market for mass production in the Super Tacks and FT1 player skates but they didn't innovate the idea. But I don't think this new flex idea will be anything amazing in their goal skates. CCM has made some questionable decision for goal skates recently, D3O for example is a high impact foam and yet is being used for an insole? Current gen it is being used in the tongue for some reason... The fact that the AS1 isn't a player boot with a longer holder and steel is strange to me, and until they make that change they'll be second fiddle to Bauer and True.
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I don't mind the binding on the blocker, I think it can look good with the right setup. That blocker doesn't look good though.
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Me? No I don't use Superfeet. Don't really want to put them in my True's and they don't work well with my player skate.
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Flat feet and super feet are usually a good combo...
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Just an fyi, if you click the plus sign next to the quote button you can quote multiple posts at once.
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Damn man! That is awesome! Nice job.
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Even nhler pads? I knew that was the goal for retail 1S from the start, but I'm surprised they are going that route for Pro, the quicker shipping turnaround for a set of gear from Quebec to NY is much quicker than Thailand to NY. -
A local store has 1X gloves that are made in Canada, the blocker has the JRZ manufactured date on it but the catcher doesn't. I wonder if that means Bauer won't have a factory in Canada or Pro orders.
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That's not what I was getting at. All of Bauer's Pro level pads and gloves were made in Canada at JRZ ending at the Reactor 9000 days. Bauer doesn't officially offer made in Canada goalie gear any more. But their Canadian factory has been helping with the backlog of gear that the overseas one can't keep up with. Before Bauer advertised on the pad "made by JRZ", they no longer do which led me to ask about the JRZ tag. "No longer in Canada" was talking about the pads themselves and not JRZ. That is awful English and I'm not sure if my phone had something to do with that or not... But I find the autocorrect for forums extremely bad on mobile.
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Oh! I thought it was "made by JRZ" tags that used to be clearly visible on the pads. Where is that on the glove?
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I think we are all on the same page haha. I just wanted it to be clear my comment was directed at the post damning the shell.
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We weren't (or at least I wasn't) disagreeing with you or referencing your comment, rather the NME are awful and these 2 cases prove it.
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None of the gear has JRZ tags. But I would like to know a source that JRZ and Bauer parted ways. I figured the JRZ was removed since they don't want to advertise they are no longer in Canada, but someone is making Pro return gear for them and picking up on custom orders that overseas seemingly can't keep up with. Both of my newish 1X gloves are Canadian made, pads are not.
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It isn't the shell that is the issue, it is the fit of the mask on the goalies head. Both of those goalies wear the mask ridiculously close to their face and might not be wearing a chin up. Which pulls your mouth away from the cage and mask. No matter what mask you had, if your mouth is right up against a non-moving or softening agent the impact is going to translate directly to your mouth. It is called physics.
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Superfeet? Did you take out the original blue insole to add those? Did you try them without superfeet?
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Iirc $850 for 2 piece, $1000 for 1
