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  1. My two cents: do not paint yourself into a corner. Good advice above. Take some time and catch your breath. Sounds like you had a lot hitting at once: gear, a crap culture, and some struggles on the ice. This happens to all of us over time. So a step back might be helpful.

    You dont want to look back 5 years from now and say to yourself I wish I had kept playing. 

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  2. This is a sad day then. You've been an inspiration to me and your example has motivated me to keep trying to get back. Like they say, father time is undefeated but you sure kicked his ass for a very long time. Congrats!

    P.S. You have a lifetime of experience and wisdom to share. Please dont fade out.

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  3. @RichMan, agreed. Butterfly slide is a whole different phenomenon than the butterfly itself. Next to impossible to do in leather pads; impossible for me certainly and I tried hard. I dont recall ever seeing Hall doing it. Esposito's way around that problem was the 'stack. Modern pads made it possible; the impact of equipment and style/approach/orthodoxy cannot be overstated. 

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  4. @RichMan, another good topic!

    Problem I am having is the meaning of unorthodox in the current context. For my time, starting organized hockey in 1971, almost all goalies played a standup style. The unorthodox goalie at the time was Tony Esposito. He took what Glen Hall called his "v style" and amplified it. Roy took the butterfly style and amplified it further so that it became the approach taught to this day. Contemporary goalies now all pretty much play the same way. Because he lasted so long, the last unorthodox (meaning different) is probably Martin Broduer and perhaps MAF. Each stood and still does stand up to make stops whereas everyone else butterflies which used to be called flopping. Searching my compromised brain, I think Cujo might be considered unorthodox because he did both the last several years of his career. Tim Thomas and Hank probably fit into the unorthodox category.

    I think the current doctrine of butterfly needs to adapt just the skaters adapted to it. Right now, I think the skaters have the edge. Almost every night, someone bangs one in off the side of the goalie's head while he's in a VH or RVH. Also, almost all of them instinctively drop to butterfly once a shot is released. It strikes me as bizarre that all management wants is big guys in net but then 6' something men drop and get beat up top. The net is only 4' high. They are all excellent but are many of them that distinct from each other?

    Another element that changed is quickness and "reflex goalies". Hand and foot speed to stop a shot is less important now. On that standard, Soros can probably be considered unorthodox to some degree because he is damn quick and is probably as quick as Richter, Palmateer, Fuhr, Ranford, and Don Beaupre when he broke in. I am not sure why but the thinking seems to be that quick reflexes are not that significant. Orthodoxy seems to mean big men who are pretty much technically identical. 

    This is really an interesting topic.

     

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  5. Blues? I like Jordan "Do I look nervous?" Bennington and Glen Hall is a demi god. However, I wore a mask like Liut's so I got to go with Mike.

    We are really going to get in the weeds if @RichMan starts a discussion on goalies from the WHA. Probably only a handful of us here even know what it was. :)

  6. Hello @degoalie:

    Being in net involves a whole different set of movements and torques on the joints than playing out. Best guess, assuming you're medically uninjured, is your body is getting acclimated to the new movements. Pretty courageous of you to switch into net at 52. Might want to see the Dr to rule out a medical issue. Hopefully, you're uninjured but best to get it confirmed. If so, you might consider stretching much more often. Good luck!

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  7. 3 hours ago, MTH said:

    Crazy that Tony has passed away. Been like three years now. He looked so old at the end of his career. I mean, he was 40 then. I don't think many goalies are in the NHL now above 30. 

    Tony Esposito #99 Prices | 1983 O-Pee-Chee | Hockey Cards

     

    Absolutely tragic. He was indestructible during his playing days on a team that stunk most years. Pancreatic killed him.

    Even though he got old, his passion to play never left. Orval Tessier, the coach the last 2 years of TE's career, wanted to phase him out during his last season and play Bannerman. TE said screw it...called Lou Nanne, the boss of the Minnesota North Stars at the time, who had a spot laid out for him. Dollar Bill Wirtz got involved and said no. I dont think TE ever filed retirement papers.  LOL. 

  8. Very cool topic!

    Chicago: Tony, not Phil, Esposito....sorry @RichMan

    Age alert: Canucks: King Richard Brodeur

                      Flyers: Bernie Parent

                      Bruins: Gerry Cheevers

                      Kings: Rogie Vachon/our @Wonder35

    Where do we put Terry Sawchuk, Glenn Hall, and Jacques Plante? 

    Lots of great goalies mentioned in this thread; too many to count.

                       

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  9. I was aware of him when he broke in but never really a fan. While he's been here, he's had groin issues until this season. This year, he's been their best player night in and night out. The reason why I mentioned him last night during the "Canes' game was that Carolina put a beating on him...I think all of us who have been on poor teams could identify with him esp last night. He didnt blow any fuses; he just tried really hard and went about his business. 

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  10. He's been great this season on an inexperienced team. 'Canes are putting a beating on him and he's making impossible stops. 4-0 Canes but the score should be 10-0. His demeanor has been professional and his technique is precise and quick this season. Very impressive.

     

  11. Saw the surgeon yesterday. Consistent with his intergalatic ego, he's pleased with his work and my leg. SOB put me through it yesterday. Had me doing one legged skips in the hallway of his office. Not so great on the left leg. The loss of strength in the quad and glut is the big problem together with descent of stairs and swelling at the end of the work day. So added more exercises and a stretch to the ones I already do to free up the glut and iliotibial band at the hip and knee. Bottom line: for ordinary people, doing well and ahead of the curve. If you saw me on the street, you wouldnt know I had my quad reattached. For what we do, I am looking at the fall. I just dont have any spring yet in the leg. :(

    I am trying hard. 

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  12. Welcome to the union!

    I think it will involve trial and error until you find what makes you feel best. I dont know that you want your cup affixed to anything. Last thing you want is for your pants or chest pad to move in a weird way, which will happen eventually, leaving your boys unprotected. Good luck!

  13. 6 hours ago, MTH said:

    I spent my teens, 20s and 30s wishing for workouts like these.

    Now? I need naps and some oatmeal.

    Look at it as mid season training...keeping your endurance up....whoops...pardon the up pun.

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  14. Just my very old two cents having thought about this since seeing the topic, I like the colors and to each his own -if you think/feel/believe the colors give you an edge, use them - but the use of color to gain any degree of an edge or effectiveness eludes me...like most shots. :)  Do we use black tape or white tape?  I won't get into a Socratic dialogue about it because I have loved this board for several years, I like and respect all its members, and I don't want to step on anyone's toes. Do whatever works, or you think works for you, is what any of us should do. 

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