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  1. Haha. Yup. A for effort trying to deviate from the competitions but F for working. It’s definitely been a deterrence to me trying their line simply because I didn’t understand them. So I just checked and the brand new Ventus SLR2 Pro is $350, which is the same price as the X2.9, which is the upper limit of Senior-level chesties. It actually looks like a nice chestie in the pictures and similar to the others I tried maybe I’ll try to check it out soon. There is a Velocity VE8 Pro (non-Carbon) but its $430, which falls in a weird price range between everyone else’s Senior-level gear and Pro-level. It’s ironic. When I was a kid I remember always seeing the Vaughn stuff in stores and obsessing over it and dreaming to one day be decked out in full Vaughn gear. As an adult with a job, I’ve yet to own a single piece. Maybe one day.
  2. Vaughn’s product line has always confused me. They don’t specifically advertise any chest as “Senior”. Rather it seems they have “Pro” and “Pro Carbon”. I did notice they seem to carry one chestie in the Senior-level price range, I think it’s the Ventus. Always thought it was odd they don’t have a Velocity in that price range as that’s their famous line. Ive never heard anything especially positive about the Senior-level Ventus, if anything about it at all. Furthermore, the store I went to didn’t have it. My gut is that Vaughn isn’t really a brand for my particular style, but I admit I’d never actually used any of their gear.
  3. So I went to the store and extensively tried on pretty much every Senior-level chestie on the market: S29, X2.9, X900, G4, XP, R1.9 and E2.9. They didn’t have the GT2 so I ordered it and just got it today. I posted the weights in the below post. It was a surprising experience. They all kind of felt the same after a while. The only one that stood out a lot was the Bauer Vapor X900. This actually is an outdated model (2017, just replaced by the X2.9). But this is by far the crappiest of the bunch. And it’s also the lightest, in a bad way. It looked like street hockey gear. I checked a few times to make sure it wasn’t. For the outdated sale price, if you’re specifically looking for Beginner-level protection, this would be an option, but it’s outrageous this thing ever sold at top Senior level pricing (over $300). I was disappointed in the materials on both new Bauers (Supreme S29 and Vapor X2.9). They were super crappy, they had that black cloth that looks like it tears easily on the inside - def no modern materials or anything that should be patented. All the other chesties had this material too, but for some reason I expected more from Bauer (maybe because they are clearly the most expensive, throughout their entire line of gear). I didn’t have any Pro models to compare, but based on pictures, it seems the Pro level stuff is a completely different story. I’ve always been bitter about Bauer, especially after the OD1N’s came out, because they are obnoxiously overpriced and all three of these Senior-level chesties are no exceptions. I ruled out both CCM’s just cuz I didn’t like the arms as much for some reason and they were the heaviest, but nothing else wrong about them than any of the others. I pretty much had a toss up between the S29, X2.9 and the Warrior Ritual G4 Sr. Not very different. The weird Pure Goalie exclusive Warrior Ritual XP Sr is allegedly a rebadged GT Sr, which is now outdated. Very similar to the current G4 Sr, but maybe thinner protection and definitely not as good looking as the G4. I would not recommend the XP. Left the store empty handed, undecided between the Bauer’s and G4 and hoping the GT2 would be the right one. Then I got the Warrior Ritual GT2 Sr. Sans the X900, this chestie is definitely much different than the others, but in the opposite way. This is the Senior-level tank some of you are looking for. I had to check the label multiple times to make sure it was not a Pro. This thing is beefy AF and the arms are ginormous and def max protection. You won’t hurt your arms. I don’t necessarily care for such protection and I’m questioning my mobility in it. It’s more like you don’t have to move your arms, they just stick out the side and there’s still no gap between your arms and torso. It’s wider than it’s tall. It’s also the heaviest - Pro level weight. This chestie is definitely the best value at $320 and puts Bauer’s $350 X2.9 to shame. Of note, the sewed in patch that has the “R/GT2” logo on the left shoulder, was sewed in upside down. This is definitely a production mistake and I wonder how many units this happened to. Unfortunately, I have to regrettably pass on the GT2, primarily because of its weight (one of my top priorities), the protection (hence mobility) is overkill for my liking, and a tiny bit because the logo is upside down, which looks very weird. I’m going to have to check out those Bauers and G4 again.
  4. All Senior level, all size Medium (except for CCM E2.9, store didn’t have a M): Bauer Vapor X900 (2017) - 5lbs 9.1oz (this feels more like an entry level chest protector like the S27) Bauer Supreme S29 (2018) - 5lbs 11.2oz Bauer Vapor X2.9 (2019) -5lbs 11.8oz Warrior Ritual GT2 (2019) - 6lbs 10.2oz (wow! This really surprised me.) Warrior Ritual G4 (2018) - 5lbs 13.0oz Warrior R/XP (2019) (apparently, Pure Goalie’s exclusive rebadged 2017 GT1) - 5lbs 15.8oz CCM Premier R1.9 (2017) - 6lbs 4.0oz CCM Extreme Flex E2.9 (2018), SIZE LARGE - 6lbs 8.8oz Click here for a first impressions of all:
  5. Intriguing. What exactly is so unique about it? Do you know what differences from the 1X there are?
  6. I was wondering that. That was always my impression between the G4 and GT1. Thanks for confirming, that is helpful. This is helpful thanks. I'm trying to avoid making this a "which C&A is right for me", since others have already noted that's an impossible question to answer online. I'm basically looking for objective differences between the C&A's. Do some act more like a stiff floating board with an air gap between your chest or are they more contoured to your body and more pillowy? Which are lighter and which are heavier? Which are more protective and which are less protective? Which have exo-skeletons on the arms? Some say the Supreme is designed for max coverage instead of mobility; however, it seems the Supreme has rounded arms while the Vapor has squared off arms - this seems to be a contradiction.
  7. I’m looking for basic general differences. Kinda weird the manufacturers don’t advertise the differences. I mean, what’s their goal in designing the Vapor compared to the Supreme. Also kinda weird how there’s almost no info on these popular brand chesties. Its hard for me to make it to a store. I usually like to order 2 products online and return one, but not even sure which 2 to order.
  8. Looking for comparisons between the Bauer Supreme 2S/S290, Bauer Vapor, Warrior G4, and Warrior GT2. Im particularly interested in the Senior-level gear. What’s the difference between Supreme and Vapor chesties? What’s the difference between the G4 Classic/G4 Senior (non bionic arms) and the GT2? I understand there was no difference whatsoever between the G2 Classic and the GT. How do the Bauers compare to the Warriors? Which are lighter, more mobile, more protective, etc. Thanks!
  9. Thanks guys. This is where I was going with it. I actually wrongfully thought it was a penalty to just skate past the center line, but I just learned it’s only about if you play the puck too. But yah, always stop the goal, worry about a penalty later.
  10. If it’s the second period, and there’s a delayed penalty against the other team, and you, the goalie, start skating to the bench, and just as you cross the center line, one of your teammates passes the puck towards the empty net, what exactly is the penalty for turning around and returning to the net to stop the puck?
  11. Ditto here. In fact, it’s nice to be able to finely adjust the palm to somewhere other than the exact stock location. I like to move it slightly upwards towards the fingers and all the way inward towards the pocket. I’m talking millimeters of movement. Hey, if u like the out of box feel and worried you’ll screw it up, then just don’t remove the palm like every other glove on the market. Or .... get the GT glove.
  12. I just picked up my 2-pieces! Wow! Just trying them on to bake them felt instantly amazing! So the LHS was tight on time to install the Bauer 3mm holders by the time I came, so I figured I might as well try them with the True/Step 4mm setup I had to pay for. My next skate is Sunday, I’m so excited. Just to clarify and correct my earlier posts. Now this is just coming from my LHS, but he’s been fitting VH skates for years and he knew these skates cold. So, all True will do at their factory, is not install their holder and if you also want, not drill their holder’s holes in the boot either. Then they throw the loose holders in the box for you. No discounts. You or the LHS have to provide the Bauer/other competitor’s holders (& runners/blades) and the LHS has to drill the holes in the boot and install the new holders. True won’t do any of that. According to my LHS, although True’s holes are positioned the same, there are minute discrepancies between holes on all holders, so you’d likely need to re-drill.
  13. So I got fitted today! 3.5-4 weeks away! I got further clarification from my LHS. The most True will do is not install their holder and put it in the box separately and if you want, not drill the True holder holes. I’m still not clear whether they will drill “Bauer holes” if you ask True will NOT install the 3rd party holder even if u ship them to them. Your LHS has to do that. I know some say the True holes are the same as the Bauer holes but according to my LHS he doesn’t rely on it re-drilled holes that much and prefers to align each holder himself. So if I definitely never want to use the True holders, he recommends asking True not to drill any holes.
  14. The player steel is rockered just like a player skate, so i doubt you’d want to play goal like that. The Step goalie steels designed for the True holder is built up on the front and rear of the blade so it is flat like a goalie blade. This is how they are able to use the same holder for players and goalies. They do not make a flat 3mm goalie blade yet for the True holder.
  15. Right now. The True/Step holder only offers a 4mm steel for goalies. The holder is the same as players too. The slot in the holder is actually 3mm. But the goalie steel Step provides for the holder is a 4mm steel that is narrowed to 3mm at the top to fit the slot. Step calls this a “Fat” steel, as in it fattens at the bottom. Theoretically, it would be very easy to offer a fully 3mm blade for goalies but they don’t right now. Not sure why, but I’m sure they eventually will one day.
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