I wish Bauer would make an updated version of these pads. I'd be first in line to buy them. I'm very disappointed companies don't make true hybrid pads like these anymore (as side from some of the smaller companies like Simmons, Boddam, etc.). A lot of the companies now claim to make hybrid pads, when in reality they are slightly more softer versions with knee rolls of stiff butterfly pads. They all now seem to have open-ish leg channels and the knee area is getting more open now too.