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  1. Hi The Goal Net forums! So since I own both Bauer lines as custom sets, I thought it would be nice to make a detailed analysis of both lines. As a sales advisor and goalie fit expert in a retailer, people often ask me how the vapor are different if both lines offer hard as hell rebounds. Most of the time I simply answer that I feel Vapor or Supreme is more a spec than anyother thing. Basically, most of teh ones who prefer a connected feel will be drawn towards the vapors, and those who prefer otherwise the supremes. There are more diffences but we will dive deeper within the "review". Let's start by showing both sets. First up, the older brother, the 2S Pro. So this was my first custom Bauer set, I won't dive into the lackluster custom options for colorways, I love this graphic and I am pleased of the way it turned out. I went all stock for this one, except for the intermediate fit for the blocker palm. Now my 2X Pro, which is a first again for me, being my first dark based set. So here I went with a lot of custom specs, here is the list; Square knee block, Powerlite core (single break below the knee) , vapor thin insert (stock option), offset CRS laces (yup, no bungee for me). Intermediate fit for both gloves. PADS So the pads are pretty similar all things considered, main diffrence would be the boot break. The Vapor has a thinner, flatter boot which is much softer that the Fused boot which is stock on the 2S pro. Furthermore, the pad is much thicker on the boot area in the Supreme. This makes the supreme less connected and makes it sit higher on the leg. This is one of the things that I liked at first but liked less and less as the season went on. Now the sliding surface. As you can see, both a extremely similar except that the calf piece on the vapor is rounder and features an embossed cortech ST logo. The knee block has thankfully gone away from the binding this year, even if the nylon used on the 2x seem to be of better quality. This explains why the sliding is (according to me at least) much much much better on the 2X pros. However, the thickness is the same on both models on the sliding edge, which brings me to one of the most unique design element of the vapor pad, the tapered core. As you can see above, the core of the vapor is slightly thicker on the inside edge than the outside edge. This pulled from the 1x, and is to aid rotation while keeping the strapping tight. Speaking of strapping. The tune-fit (vapor) is much softer and wraps the leg a lot more, the CRS is looser and stiffer. I'm not really picky on strapping, but the vapor is simple and comfortable, both things lacking in the supreme's CRS. The calf wraps on the vapor are longer and hug the skate much more, and have elastic joints at the bottom. On nitpick in the supremes, the strapping did not have any color option (not even white), but again, the set looked good nontheless. The leg channel in nylon on the supremes and has the quattro material from AX Suede on the knee block. On the vapor, we find the quattro in the leg channel as well. Overall, I love both pads, but the vapor suits more my playstyle, mainly because of the snuggier, tighter fit and the softer boot, while keeping the really hot rebounds. Now the catch gloves. I won't talk about the breaks, the vapor is more of a finger oriented closure (similar to a 590 but feels really close to a 580 somehow) and the supreme is more of a full-hand closure, which is a 600 in ccm language. Supreme Vapor Now that the inevitable (Thanos is inevitable) break question is addressed, let's look at best feature on both gloves; the cuff. Back in november when I saw the gear, i saw that the took insperation from the supreme for the backhand of the 2x catch glove. The cuff is now shorter and feels much more open than on the 1x ans 2s pro, but keep the flexibility that the 2s pro had with the FREE flex cuff. Supreme Vapor Now a few pictures of the gloves side by side. They present a somewhat similar shape (big pocket, smaller cuff) but they feel completely diffrent, props to bauer for that, because I always felt more comfortable with supreme type break because of their shape, but never like the feel of the break that much, it's nice to have a glove that just feels like the best of both worlds for me. (2x pro has a great closure out of the box, highly recommend the game ready ) Blockers The 2X pro blocker feels like a variant of the 2s Pro, it's the weird friend that just looks somewhat alien, but in this case, the design works and looks both futuristic and traditional. Now the vapor is much lighter, and here is why. The vapor has a tapered face, which makes it have an optimized thickness both for balance and protection. Now the sidewall is where the alien thing comes in. The vapor straight up looks weird, but it works just fine. The supreme has however the best finger protection I ever had on a blocker. I'm not worried with the vapor however. The one thing I don't like on the vapor is the stiching on the face, I prefer the seamless edge of the supreme by a landslide, but this is more of a nitpick than anything. One small diffence is that the supreme has a segmented finger protection and the vapor has traditionnal build. supreme vapor So that about wraps it up. so feel free to ask more questions on the gear. Edit: The 2S pro set was regularly cleaned (once every 6-8 ice times) using a magic eraser and a combination of slight pressure and patience.
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    My Bauer Custom Goal Gear Catalog (22 Pages) Pictures from catalog converted to .pdf, not a direct .pdf catalog.
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    2019 Bauer Full Line Catalog - .pdf format - 311 pages. Vapor 2X Goalie starts on page 186. Supreme 2S Goalie starts on page 209. --- Amazing what you can find on Google when using the "filetype" operator...
  4. While I continue to skate during the summer, the high level skate takes a break, so I have some time to modify equipment properly. One item I'd like to get everyone's input on is getting more POP off my blocker, like the Bauer 1s/2s or Vaughn SLR. I'm using Koho 589 Vintage Pro which has seen ~3 years of service so I need to replace the blocker board anyway and have some small repairs made on the palm gusset. But any suggestions on... Blocker Board Materials (carbon sheets vs. standard plastic) Higher density foams (perhaps layers as yes > density also means >weight) Sourcing options for materials I'm not opposed to sending this work off to say @Beccaraptor at PAW so if i even wanted to thin out blocker face as a whole it could be done. Trying to build a better blocker is all. Help me brainstorm... and if you have a 1s or any other block you feel has good POP and you don't mind opening it up to show off send some pics. The IG post below from GoalieCoaches got me thinking about this...
  5. Got a skate cut that is both a long cleaner cut and a few smaller ones like the blade chattered across the pad (both together, probably from the same incident, just a guy crashing in on a rush, only found it the other day so might have been a while ago). Planning on tackling this repair tonight/this week, looking for any advice for how to pull it off and make it look as good as possible. I've got some automotive goop to use, but mostly curious on if anyone has done this and how best to finish it? Do I just keep the goop inside the cut and let it bond that way, or do I spread some of it along the top of the cut as well with some kind of edge to smooth it out? I've seen shoe goo suggested, which is from the same company it looks like, and this stuff is also for like vinyl seat tears so I think it should be good for this too. (will post pics of the damage at least tonight)
  6. I have the 1s pads and with my 1x knee pads the knee block stretches out and the velcro holding the block and landing pulls apart. Any suggestions on how to fix it (I'm already using the longest knee strap)
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    2018 Bauer Full Line Catalog - .pdf format - 176 pages Supreme Goalie Gears starts on page 123 Vapor Goalie Gear starts on page 130 Youth goalie gear along with masks and accessories starts on page 139.
  8. Expanding on what I've posted already in other topics about my newly acquired 2S Pro sticks, I'll use this to go into more details... First the specs... Bauer 2S Pro (Stock Retail) WEIGHT: 638g (weighed prior to taping) LIE ANGLE: 60 (120) COLOR SHAFT : BLACK (1) RED (1) COLOR PADDLE : BLACK (1) RED (1) COLOR LOGOINLINE: WHITE COLOR LOGOOUTLINE: BLACK (1) RED (1) SHAFT: 12K FULL CARBON CONSTRUCTION FLEX: N/A SIDE: REGULAR CURVE: P31 SIZE SHAFT : STOCK (Actual 30") SIZE PADDLE : 25" (Actual 27,125")
  9. dstew29

    Building My New Set

    There may be a thread for this but I couldn’t find one so feel free to move as needed. Backdrop: I haven’t played since college circa 2004 (Wow I’m old AF!) but determined to get back in the beer leagues this year. I was in net from 8 yo to 21 yo previously though, so once a tendy always a trendy. Gear I Still Have And Might Keep: Mask - Promasque circa 1998. Would need new paint and new internals (thinking I’d go Maltese route - but need to research this more). Wish I knew which model but it had an air bladder to “customize fit”. Not sure if the shell is protective enough but would be nice to not drop $750- $1k on another bucket. ...that’s about it. My gear was way too small for me in hindsight and it’s probably a rats nest in my parents garage. I had 32” Brian’s “midnight” air pacs, koho revolution glove/blocker (I wanted those Roy 500 revolution pads to match in the worst way - still one of the dopest sets imo), Vaughn vision c/a, and koho pants (all circa late ‘90s), Riddel skates. Gear I’m Considering: Pads - think I’m 33”+1(ish). Not sure what thigh rise I want but might be 1 or 1.5. In no particular order, I’m liking: - Brians Optik FLX - Don’t love stock graphic so I’d have to do custom here. Thinking the Kaskisuo graphic or some version of that I’d come up with. - Bauer 2S Pro - I love the way these setup on ice in the demo vids I’ve seen. I actually like the simplicity of the stock graphic too. Could keep it stock or see if they do custom? I hear they’re super light too which i like. Brian’s is similar I’m sure. - Vaughn PVE - This is a distant 3rd place but like the classic look and shape of these. Could be a contender. Gloves - I’m a big proponent of sticking with same brand (note: i appreciate the irony since I mixed gear brands back when I played but beggars can’t be choosers!). I’d go Optik gloves, 2Spro gloves but for Vaughn’s I’d use a prior gen glove that opens up flat (think Kipper spec but don’t know the model no off hand) Skates - I’ve tried on the new Bauer’s (vapor and supremes) and think they’re too tall. Right now I’m leaning towards: - CCM AS1 - haven’t tried on but the Tacks from last year were very comfortable to me and I like the look of them, more traditional with the slim cowling which I like. - Graf dm1080 - appreciated the good review on here from @Murray so these are still in the running. Local shop doesn’t carry them so sort of taking a flyer on them for now. C/A - I have no basis to make a decision here. So I’ll survey the group to hopefully get a few good options. The new Optik line looked nice but again, no experience with anything current. Pants - Again, same as C/A. It seems like the pros like Vaughn and maybe CCM? Need some help here as well. Stick - This is something I’ll figure out last and I’m less concerned about. This is more trial and error for me. I’m used to the old Koho’s (which I loved) that probably feel like a kettlebell versus the new cores so anything new is a massive upgrade. Knee pads - I get the sense these are a major must have now but I’ve never used them so I have no basis. Any good suggestions here are welcome. Appreciate any feedback from the collective wisdom here and look forward to gettting “woke” on some of this stuff!
  10. I figured I'd try a side by side comparison of the 1S and 2S lines. Lots of obvious and straight forward updates, a few less obvious ones, and a few that don't really do anything, but they're there. I'll try to keep it to point form notes and expand on the ones I find more interesting. These are all just design comparisons, I've only used the 2S set once since I got them. Other than not really needing any break-in time (other than steaming the glove in the store), I won't go into functional differences too much. Blocker The profile of the inside board looks a little bit different towards the fingers The outer graphic layer of CORTech is a little by smaller on the 2S All jenpro (I'm assuming jenpro/similar material in areas where the pucks aren't directly expected to hit) behind the hand, no nylon material. The cuff is segmented a bit differently and is a bit more malleable. Not that the 1S was stiff by any means. The palm in the 2S is all one colour and feels a bit more substantial in terms of padding The material behind the thumb is now mesh instead of a thin neoprene-like material Catcher/Trapper The segmenting on the back of the hand and the shape of the back panels has been updated a bit The pocket has had the profile changed a bit to move the deepest part of the pocket to the tip of the glove as opposed to closer to the hand Skate lace through the whole pocket as opposed to nylon lace in the middle of the double T. Pretty sure I've seen both in the 2S, so not sure if it's just based on whoever is making the glove and how much lace they have or what Logo has been flipped It's hard to see in the picture, and may just be due to a year of use on the 1S, but it looks like the palm of the 2S is a bit steeper into the pocket. That sounds weird, the flip side of that is that the 1S palm almost looks a bit flatter, like there is more surface area on the 2S that directs the puck into the pocket. Again, may just be break in of the 1S? The elastic on the cuff has been moved to give it more space and flexibility. The 2S double T is actually attached at the end closest to the hand. Almost like the opposite of the 1X where the single T splits at the end. This probably contributes to the change in pocket profile. Looks like I actually could do something similar with the 1S T, but haven't tried unlacing that part yet. Year and month of manufacture patches on all the pieces. (Note these are made in Thailand, I just pulled all the tags off already) Another look at the pocket profile differences. The thumb is segmented differently, no more logo. Strapping is still the same. Here I'm showing the only real built-in adjustability in the wrist strap. There are a couple of holes in the leather on the cuff that you can run the strap through. This will let you get the strap tighter on your wrist (2S on the left), or keep it from going too tight (1S on the right). New palm lock grip material in the 2S Standard nash palm in the 1S Closure and break on the 2S Pads Reinforced patch on the inside of the boot, stitched in instead of glued The panel at the bottom of the inside leg channel has been smoothed out, likely due to the rest of the sliding surface being updated Outside of the boot with the CORTech ST patch, again stitched to the pad. Toe bridges have no HD foam in them now (2S on the right pictured with ProLaces Armour installed with TGN spec lace-in attachment) This is a custom spec I asked for, but you can kind of see the difference between the stock 1S stiff boot and the 1X soft boot that I requested for my 2S Yes, you can see some of the HD foam of the knee block showing in the 2S. I think it has to do with the kind-of-1-piece design of the block and flaps, but could pretty easily be covered up. There is more room in the knee of the 2S, they've smoothed out the pillow like effect of the 1S. This should give you a bit more room for your knee pads if you use a bigger model. PowerLite tag No tabs for leather straps on the 2S set You can see the difference in the sliding surface. With the 2S surface extended to be longer, you can see again the part at the bottom that was scaled back. (Not 2S specific) My new strapping technique. CRS short strap goes from the sling on the inside, through the inner calf wrap wing, down to the bottom-outside velcro. I like how it keeps the whole pad more evenly snug to my leg without being overly tight in any one area. I also played with shortening the Logo strap on the 1S by putting some stitches in. Month and year patch Loop to tie your toe tie laces through for easier carrying. Off-set and laced in toe bridge No air pillow pad inside the inner calf wrap I can't believe I forgot to take a picture of the actual sliding surface, but I think that's one of the more obvious and widely seen updates. Knee blocks at rest One finger pushing the 1S End of range the other way One finger pushing the 2S Other end of the range Laced into the pad instead of just stitched to the face Laced in a bit more snugly than the 1S. Effectively the block is laced in on both sides, with the knee flap more secure because of it. (Mostly Vapor 1X tech, both because they did it there first, and because I asked for the 1X blocks on my 2S) Feel free to point out anything else you've scoped out, I'm sure there are other things I've missed, or just didn't notice in the pictures. Overall I am pretty satisfied with this set. Anybody want a 1yr old 1S set?
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