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Hi The Goal Net forums! So since I own both Bauer lines as custom sets, I thought it would be nice to make a detailed analysis of both lines. As a sales advisor and goalie fit expert in a retailer, people often ask me how the vapor are different if both lines offer hard as hell rebounds. Most of the time I simply answer that I feel Vapor or Supreme is more a spec than anyother thing. Basically, most of teh ones who prefer a connected feel will be drawn towards the vapors, and those who prefer otherwise the supremes. There are more diffences but we will dive deeper within the "review". Let's start by showing both sets. First up, the older brother, the 2S Pro. So this was my first custom Bauer set, I won't dive into the lackluster custom options for colorways, I love this graphic and I am pleased of the way it turned out. I went all stock for this one, except for the intermediate fit for the blocker palm. Now my 2X Pro, which is a first again for me, being my first dark based set. So here I went with a lot of custom specs, here is the list; Square knee block, Powerlite core (single break below the knee) , vapor thin insert (stock option), offset CRS laces (yup, no bungee for me). Intermediate fit for both gloves. PADS So the pads are pretty similar all things considered, main diffrence would be the boot break. The Vapor has a thinner, flatter boot which is much softer that the Fused boot which is stock on the 2S pro. Furthermore, the pad is much thicker on the boot area in the Supreme. This makes the supreme less connected and makes it sit higher on the leg. This is one of the things that I liked at first but liked less and less as the season went on. Now the sliding surface. As you can see, both a extremely similar except that the calf piece on the vapor is rounder and features an embossed cortech ST logo. The knee block has thankfully gone away from the binding this year, even if the nylon used on the 2x seem to be of better quality. This explains why the sliding is (according to me at least) much much much better on the 2X pros. However, the thickness is the same on both models on the sliding edge, which brings me to one of the most unique design element of the vapor pad, the tapered core. As you can see above, the core of the vapor is slightly thicker on the inside edge than the outside edge. This pulled from the 1x, and is to aid rotation while keeping the strapping tight. Speaking of strapping. The tune-fit (vapor) is much softer and wraps the leg a lot more, the CRS is looser and stiffer. I'm not really picky on strapping, but the vapor is simple and comfortable, both things lacking in the supreme's CRS. The calf wraps on the vapor are longer and hug the skate much more, and have elastic joints at the bottom. On nitpick in the supremes, the strapping did not have any color option (not even white), but again, the set looked good nontheless. The leg channel in nylon on the supremes and has the quattro material from AX Suede on the knee block. On the vapor, we find the quattro in the leg channel as well. Overall, I love both pads, but the vapor suits more my playstyle, mainly because of the snuggier, tighter fit and the softer boot, while keeping the really hot rebounds. Now the catch gloves. I won't talk about the breaks, the vapor is more of a finger oriented closure (similar to a 590 but feels really close to a 580 somehow) and the supreme is more of a full-hand closure, which is a 600 in ccm language. Supreme Vapor Now that the inevitable (Thanos is inevitable) break question is addressed, let's look at best feature on both gloves; the cuff. Back in november when I saw the gear, i saw that the took insperation from the supreme for the backhand of the 2x catch glove. The cuff is now shorter and feels much more open than on the 1x ans 2s pro, but keep the flexibility that the 2s pro had with the FREE flex cuff. Supreme Vapor Now a few pictures of the gloves side by side. They present a somewhat similar shape (big pocket, smaller cuff) but they feel completely diffrent, props to bauer for that, because I always felt more comfortable with supreme type break because of their shape, but never like the feel of the break that much, it's nice to have a glove that just feels like the best of both worlds for me. (2x pro has a great closure out of the box, highly recommend the game ready ) Blockers The 2X pro blocker feels like a variant of the 2s Pro, it's the weird friend that just looks somewhat alien, but in this case, the design works and looks both futuristic and traditional. Now the vapor is much lighter, and here is why. The vapor has a tapered face, which makes it have an optimized thickness both for balance and protection. Now the sidewall is where the alien thing comes in. The vapor straight up looks weird, but it works just fine. The supreme has however the best finger protection I ever had on a blocker. I'm not worried with the vapor however. The one thing I don't like on the vapor is the stiching on the face, I prefer the seamless edge of the supreme by a landslide, but this is more of a nitpick than anything. One small diffence is that the supreme has a segmented finger protection and the vapor has traditionnal build. supreme vapor So that about wraps it up. so feel free to ask more questions on the gear. Edit: The 2S pro set was regularly cleaned (once every 6-8 ice times) using a magic eraser and a combination of slight pressure and patience.

I am think about buying a set of G4’s off of a friend. But they got a medium blocker palm. would I be able to switch it to a large palm without buying a new blocker?

I am wanting to buy a set of warrior G4 pads glove and blocker, the one and only store near me doesn't carry warrior at all and any site I visit online doesn't have the color and/or the size I need. Does anyone know where I could hope to buy gear online?

While I continue to skate during the summer, the high level skate takes a break, so I have some time to modify equipment properly. One item I'd like to get everyone's input on is getting more POP off my blocker, like the Bauer 1s/2s or Vaughn SLR. I'm using Koho 589 Vintage Pro which has seen ~3 years of service so I need to replace the blocker board anyway and have some small repairs made on the palm gusset. But any suggestions on... Blocker Board Materials (carbon sheets vs. standard plastic) Higher density foams (perhaps layers as yes > density also means >weight) Sourcing options for materials I'm not opposed to sending this work off to say @Beccaraptor at PAW so if i even wanted to thin out blocker face as a whole it could be done. Trying to build a better blocker is all. Help me brainstorm... and if you have a 1s or any other block you feel has good POP and you don't mind opening it up to show off send some pics. The IG post below from GoalieCoaches got me thinking about this...

my blocker started splitting around the face and I have only had it for a month, does anyone know what this is cause from.

Selling slightly used Bauer 1S glove and blocker. All white. Used once a week for two months. $400 usd. Shipping from North Dakota. Prefer to ship to US only.

This is my comparison video review of Brian's Optik Blocker vs. Bauer S170 blocker. Probably not the most fair comparison as I'm comparing a pro blocker vs. a senior entry level one but it should help illustrate some of the key differences when making your next blocker purchase. I'm now a true believe that all blockers are not equal and that "a block is just a blocker" quote is not really accurate. High Level: The Brian's Optik blocker is definitely one of best in it's class of high end blockers. Brian's offers some great customization for colors and custom logo options to the face of the blocker. One of the key reason's I upgraded to this blocker was for the exceptional finger protection. The Bauer S170 really lacked effective index finger protection and I paid the price for this a couple times with the puck coming up and hitting that finger dead on underneath the finger flap. The Boa System that it uses for adjusting the wrist is nice but not a big deal as I keep it at one standard setting. The other areas where Brian's has excelled is the materials used in the glove to cut down on bacteria and durability of the palm of the glove which are much better than the Bauer Blocker. The final point I'll make is that the Brian's Optik Blocker offers some great flexibility in the wrist which has really helped me with more effective puck redirects to the corner. Overall, I've learned to recognized that finger protection on a blocker is very important so the extra dollar investment for me is worth it. Both blockers weigh the exact same and are extremely light. If you are someone where budget is key then going with the Bauer you'll still have to examine some options to mod the finger protection.

Hey guys, After 6 ice sessions here is my review on the Factory Mad pads, glove, and blocker. Dennis at Factory Mad was a pleasure to deal with. He answered all my questions that I had about his equipment that he makes. The reason I made the decision to go with Factory Mad was his demo program. Back in July I demoed his Ultra light pads, glove, and blocker. So on my equipment I wanted a simple design. I wanted vertical stitching on the pads, glove, and blocker. Dennis did a fabulous job on pads and gloves. Glove It’s by far one of my favorite gloves to use. I also like the one piece glove design. I had Dennis put the vertical stitching on the cuff part. A+ job! Love the floating T with skate lace! Glove is like a vacuum to pucks and is very easy to close too. Glove comes with removable palm protection for stingers. Also the wrist strap is removable too. Both are secured with Velcro. When I was demoing his glove I had some concerns about the protection. I took some shots and I did get some stingers. So I was a little worried. With my new glove the protection is top notch. No stingers. The demo glove has seen a lot of action, so that’s probably why I got some stingers. Blocker The blocker that Dennis makes is great. Lots of mobility, protection, and is stable on your hand. His blocker doesn’t have a big and bulky side board. Love the simple design. More like old school blocker to me which I love. Had Dennis put the vertical stitching on the whole face. Once again his work great! Pads The pads are based off the new ultra lite one piece landing. Size 34”+1. His pads are not core foam pad, he has a layered foam system which offers a traditional feel pad. Torsion flex. I did ask Dennis for a couple things on the pad. I liked the demo pads with the Velcro strapping system. The Velcro strapping reminds me of my old G2. I have 1 Velcro strap to go behind the knee, 3 for shin. The boot has the traditional leather strap for the skate . The Velcro strapping system is great because the pad is very responsive to your moves. Also the one piece landing gives you a great seal on the ice when in the butterfly. The pad also slides just as well as my old G2. He also has a foam wedge which has really great for support and it’s very comfortable when in the butterfly. Having this puts less stress on your leg and knees. I had Dennis make a bungee toe strap similar to monster straps. On the demo pads he have skate lace sliding toe bridge. I didn’t like it. With the bungee toe bridge it puts less strain on ankles. The boot I really like what Dennis has done. The boot area is super flexible and tapered toe. Helps get you in a wider stance, and aids in pushing off making post to post saves. On the under side of the boot area, there is an small area where your skate cap is snug and conforms near the toe area. This also helps to keep the pads centered. On the face of the pad I went with jenpro face so I could have the vertical stitching. The outside gusset of the pad I did go cordura to reduce some weight. Overall the pads great. Good mobility, slide well, and are very comfortable. Rebounds come off the pads softer than my old G2. The one piece landing is stiff, which makes the pad less flexible in the middle of the pad. Thigh rise is flexible. I don’t mind the stiffness in the pad, because my G2 are just as stiff. The pad is a little heavier but I don’t mind. Any questions let me know. Thanks Ron

For sale 34"+1.5 Pro Kenesky pads, Blocker, and Boddam Pro Catcher with icicle design just like Garth Snow. Pads come with 2 knee blocks. 1 that I had PAW make thinner than the stock ones. Both knee blocks are cut to 45 degree angle. I also have Halo Strapping system and boot straps from Monster goalie. The toe straps are made by Kenesky with shock cord. Pads will also include the nylon strapping that came with the pads. Pads were only used about 8 times and are like new. They also weigh about 4.5lbs. Blocker was designed just like my Warrior G2 Blocker side wall. Palm is in great shape. Blocker is super light too. Weighing at 1.9lbs. Boddam Refuze Pro catcher has custom icicle design, pro palm, and double t with skate lace. All equipment had been wiped down and air dried after skating. Reason I'm selling is because I love my Warrior G2's. Sold As Is. Looking for $625.00 USD + shipping for all 3 items. Paypal only. Thanks for looking!

Here is my video review of the Bauer S170 Blocker. This blocker is designed for your average goalie playing lower level rec hockey. I have been using this blocker for the last 6-months. Overall, very good on the wallet. I think for the price, it is still a deal. Concerns would be around finger protection as it does not offer the same protection on the fingers as some of the higher end blockers.

For sale: A nice set that's been used for a few months, but in excellent condition still. Looking for 1300$ + shipping (USD), OBO. Pad specs: -Vaughn V7 XR Pro Carbon -Pulse graphic in navy weave, white weave, and light blue -pro logos -35+2 sizing -Two leather calf straps, one velcro calf wrap, no boot strap -Mackenzie Blackwood specs: clean boot, extended outside calf wrap, nylon leg channel, solid firm knee block, slightly stiffer top of pad. -Modifications: leather strap at the knee has been removed (can be replaced), makeshift/removable "Professor strap" (believe it was Monster brand) -Notes: the sidewall of the left knee block has a minor cut and has a piece of PadSkinz over it. Blocker specs: -Vaughn XR Pro Carbon -Pulse graphic in navy weave, white weave, and light blue -Pro logos -No modifications, it's the same as stock Glove specs: -Vaughn XR Pro Carbon -Pulse graphic in navy weave, white weave, and light blue -Pro logos -No modifications, it's the same as sock -Notes: slight yellowing of white coloring on the cuff

Finally selling my Brian's Focus set that I custom ordered in 2011. They are the best pads I have ever owned, but now I need to make room for my OPTIKS! Colours: White w/Bucky accents Reserve them for the beginning of/mid January! $500 CAD OBO (+ shipping) The pads: ATK = 17.5, Thigh = 12 One of my requests for the pad when ordering it was that I wanted the equivalent of a 34+1" pad, but with 1" taken off the boot, and added to the thigh rise. So I guess it came out to a 34+1.5" pad with a shortened boot? (pad is 35.5" total length) Anyways, some key features: I had them tweak the Focus graphic ever so slightly, as you can see in the photos. White with Bucky leather accents thigh buckle moved higher on outside of pad, lower on inside thigh (to help seal ice in the 5 hole, which is awesome, btw) inset toe ties (no bridge) strapping is as follows: 1 thigh, one knee, two calf, two boot double external breaks The pads flex really nice, but to warn you, the boot is fairly stiff. WEAR AREAS: _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ The catcher: The catcher I would compare to a 580 break (for all you Koho/Reebok/CCM guys). I liked it, but I found I wasn't able to catch anything in the fingers up position with it. When held in the right position, though, it catches so well. And I'm not going to lie, the glove is massive. It has a pancake shape, and whoever was the previous glove designer at Brian's had gigantic hands, so I had to cinch these down pretty tight. Some key features of the glove: Not a true one piece cuff, so still a little flexible. Still sturdy enough to over flex reinforced "T" same graphic tweak as the pads Zero G hand strapping. The Focus glove only came with one Velcro strap on the palm, so I requested two Overall, it's a great sealing glove, and has a good feel for catching pucks, very snappy. WEAR AREAS: _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ The blocker: The blocker has a removable foam pad on the wrist, which is VERY comfortable, and it's washable, too. The key features: I found the finger protection to be too bulky, so I had them remove it. I haven't had any injuries from it, but that's not to say it can't happen same tweaked graphic as mentioned above the palm is very big, I think because of the glove designer I mentioned earlier WEAR AREAS: Overall, there's minimum wear on this set, considering I played 6 seasons, around 36 games per season in them. They are solidly built equipment, and will be ready to ship once I get my OPTIKs (beginning of January?) Any questions, inquiries, feel free to PM me.

Hi, I’m looking for a Warrior G2 glove and blocker in red and white if possible. Senior or pro level, doesn’t matter. Graphics don’t matter either as I like both the classic and regular graphics, just want red and white colorways HMU if you have a set (or even just a glove or a blocker) or know of any available. Willing to pay up to $350 for the set. Thanks!!