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i'm looking on the pro custom goalie pad customizer specs on pure goalie, and i was wondering what the calf bracket is, i know its not the professer strap, but i am still confused

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5 hours ago, ilyazhito said:

Interesting. I thought E-Flex was more of a Hybrid-style pad, because the goalies who wear E-Flex pads tend to play a more hybrid style. When I was learning ball hockey, my coach compared me to an Anders Lindback (big goalie who plays a blocking style). I would compare myself to Marc-Andre Fleury (a goalie who is not that big, but who wins the day by good positioning, challenging the shooters, and playing an effective butterfly style. 

Proficiency on ice is yet to be seen, but I'll check out pads that are older yet still modern. Maybe there are some older butterfly-oriented (flat face, few breaks) pads out there that I can claim at a discount. I'll also look into the GSX, and see what fits when I go to the pro shop later this week. 

Yes the eflex is a hybrid style pad, but  it is still suitable for goalies like my self, who is forced to stay up bc i butterfly too much. Talking in the long run, I would suggest that you use a few older pads to try and get a feeling for sizing, straping style, weight and what brand you want to use. Then work your way up, to get a better feeling for what gear you like. I am 13, playing goalie for 3 years, still using 2nd hand gear to test out what brand is good and what is not. I myself is a stiff Max rebound flat face pad, but know scince I am playing u15, u18, junior semi pro, in australia, I am looking at knee roles, brakes, soft rebounds, bc i need it to stay closes to me to make a quick save. I am using reebok rn, flat faced, and i have been scored on several times because the rebounds were too hot and went directly to the opposition. So I am looking for softer pads with enough rebound that it wouldn't do nothing and stay in one spot when it hit my pads. So the eflex or gsx is a cheap but good pad/s to use. Also hybrid style goalies is a dying breed in a butterfly dominated game. So companies are trying to make pads for butterfly style goalies but also incorporate things from the 'eflex line to axis line'. Ccm has a pro custom option were you can have knee roles, like the eflex, but have the rebounds of the ccm axis or priemer line, which is done for. Companies like true, have flat faced knee roles l, having the look and feel of the knee role, but also giving you a flat stiff surface.

Try the bauer gsx, or the ccm eflex 5.5

If you want bauer gear similar to the one 90, which I have used, try the bauer 1x, 1s, or the reactor series. Probably have to get it second hand, bit I found those were similar to the one 90. Or just get the 0ne 70 or one 100

36 minutes ago, Nohtaram said:

RichMan and Coop gave you the best advice here. Don't try to forced yourself into bigger C/A just because you are light up over shoulders way to often. I'm with Coop on 5'9 and had same problem in the past you're facing now. Try to challenge the shooter more, keep top of the crease or even foot higher if there's no back door threat and you will find you will block more shots.

As for C/A I use 2X Pro as mobility is great in it - from the pictures Hiperlite looks a little bit bigger in the shoulders so that could be your choice. Other options are Warriors' chesties - they have opinion on being super adjustable, mobile and big.

On 11/24/2021 at 12:51 PM, A.YOUNGoalie13 said:

Not to sound mean or anything, but getting scored on top shelf is not really a matter of gear. Guys shoot high regardless of what they see because they know goalies go down way too often. It’s usually pretty obvious when goals are going in specifically because of gear like over rotation of pads, holes in gloves (I have lots of experience with this) etc. Just make sure you look at goals from all angles so you can help yourself improve at the position and not needlessly spend any money on more gear.

On 11/24/2021 at 10:22 AM, RichMan said:

@Windmill save I'm gonna go with many points Coop brought up. Playing big and square totally based on your gear can be somewhat counter productive in a way. Based on your pic, you don't look very tall (yet) and you have a very low stance. in your case, focusing on angles and depth could be your best tool in your learning curve to help cut down on those top corners. And do not neglect your skating abilities as getting to the spot before the shot is released will be greatly to your advantage as well.

Look at Sarro with the Preds. He's currently the shortest goalie in the show and has developed those exact same skills I mentioned above to make him one of the best in the league of giants. You could learn quite a bit by studying his games.

You mentioned Mckenney. Their shoulder width tend to be on the wide side, without exaggerating. That being said, proper sizing is highly important as to not hinder movement or mask mobility that can screw up your side vision on backdoor plays.

On 11/24/2021 at 8:56 AM, coopaloop1234 said:

I do think you're overthinking whatever advantage that extra bulk will give you. Note, I'm not trying to say that your choice on this is incorrect, but I feel like you may be bit misguided. Especially with your love for all things CCM/True.

I'll give you an example, I'm not a very big guy, 5'9" or so. I've experimented with going the bulkier/tankier route before and I found that it actually made me worse. I found that I had lost some of my speed, I felt far more robotic in my movements, and it made me feel like I was fighting my gear.

I stick to the more flexible C/A's now as I value that freedom of movement over whatever minor incremental advantage a bulkier C/A would provide.

Everyone is different and the Axis may be exactly what you're after, however, bigger isn't always better, especially as the game gets faster.

On 11/24/2021 at 8:25 AM, coopaloop1234 said:

Everyone shoots high, that's just what happens as you go up the skill ladder.

Keep in mind, the Axis chest is one of the bulkier/stiffer ones on the market. It's going to be a massive change in what you're currently wearing.

On 11/24/2021 at 7:33 AM, coopaloop1234 said:

I don't understand what you mean by this?

On 11/24/2021 at 2:16 AM, coopaloop1234 said:

First thing we need to know is what your access is to being able to try on C/A's.

Second is we'd need to understand what you have used and what you like and didn't like about it.

Third, we'd want to know what you're looking for in a new C/A.

Sidebit: I've heard parroted from a few sales guys that the Premier/Axis C/A's are better suited for guys with very broad shoulders and there's a trend of guys not meeting that criteria forcing themselves into these C/A's solely because they like how big it is. Even to their own detriment.

On 11/24/2021 at 2:01 AM, A.YOUNGoalie13 said:

Get to a store and try one on. Then you don’t have to worry about ordering the wrong size or any other potential issues like that. Also have to think about this: great if something makes you look bigger but if you can’t move in it, that’s not going to be very helpful. Make sure you get something that you can move in.

So the ccm axis C&A isn't a good fit for someone like me, and I should go for a more mobile chestie. IF that is so, what would you recomend. Bc i need the protection too.

35 minutes ago, RichMan said:

@Windmill save I'm gonna go with many points Coop brought up. Playing big and square totally based on your gear can be somewhat counter productive in a way. Based on your pic, you don't look very tall (yet) and you have a very low stance. in your case, focusing on angles and depth could be your best tool in your learning curve to help cut down on those top corners. And do not neglect your skating abilities as getting to the spot before the shot is released will be greatly to your advantage as well.

Look at Sarro with the Preds. He's currently the shortest goalie in the show and has developed those exact same skills I mentioned above to make him one of the best in the league of giants. You could learn quite a bit by studying his games.

You mentioned Mckenney. Their shoulder width tend to be on the wide side, without exaggerating. That being said, proper sizing is highly important as to not hinder movement or mask mobility that can screw up your side vision on backdoor plays.

That is a good point. I get what you are saying. The Mckenny C&A is a older version. So the shoulder floater are small.  Sarro is, yes, one of the best goalies in the league right now. But for my age, i am pretty tall. I am still considering what chestie to use, it is just that ccm is on top of my list. It is not that i can't afford pro gear, or better gear, it is just that my price range is low. I chose ccm because i have tried on the ccm premier 1 and 2.9 off ice. I liked it BUT it was big for me in waist wise because it was a large and i was only 11. The shoulders are moveable and adjustable. So i can get the large appearance and still have the same mobility in my head. I also don't tuck, so it have a bit more movement in my mind. Don't know if that is true. I have good foot work for my age, so my skating abilities is ok. Like i said, i tend to over shoot a bit, so the axis was/looked the best for me. 

9 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said:

I do think you're overthinking whatever advantage that extra bulk will give you. Note, I'm not trying to say that your choice on this is incorrect, but I feel like you may be bit misguided. Especially with your love for all things CCM/True.

I'll give you an example, I'm not a very big guy, 5'9" or so. I've experimented with going the bulkier/tankier route before and I found that it actually made me worse. I found that I had lost some of my speed, I felt far more robotic in my movements, and it made me feel like I was fighting my gear.

I stick to the more flexible C/A's now as I value that freedom of movement over whatever minor incremental advantage a bulkier C/A would provide.

Everyone is different and the Axis may be exactly what you're after, however, bigger isn't always better, especially as the game gets faster.

Thanks, I do like ccm/true but i am open to options tho. The axis wasn't my first choice, the bauer elite was, but i tried it on and it was a bit heavy for my liking, so i wanted to give ccm a try. Bc i have used bauer, vaughn, McKenny and reebok, never used ccm, just wanted to give it a try. I did wanted to try the eflex 5.9, but it looked like my current chestie, (see in profile) and it was small on my shoulders. I was getting scored on top shelf a lot, so i thought that ccm axis was the way to go. I did try the premier 1 and 2.9, and it liked it. Never used it in game. The ccm axis looked similar, but just some upgrades.

22 minutes ago, CJ Boiss said:

Well, if I get it in time to wear for my game tomorrow I'll let you know how it feels. But yeah, Kevlar and d3O is pretty much the tops in terms of cut and impact protection.

Thanks

30 minutes ago, CJ Boiss said:

I wear a dangler to catch pucks, and a player neckguard for cut protection.

I hate the feeling of my chest protector interacting with the additional clavicle protection that goalie neckguards have; never had a puck slip past my dangler, and I've never had issues with my chest protector covering my clavicle, so I don't feel like I need it anyways.

I used to not wear any kind of neckguard, but then I had one clown blow through my crease at full speed when I was belly-down on the ice. The heel of his skate kicked up and the runner caught me full on the side of the neck. I got really lucky to not contact the blade.

Just bought an Aegis Interceptor, it should be delivered tomorrow.

So aegis neck guard should be the way to go

Would anyone or you recommend anything else?

2 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said:

Everyone shoots high, that's just what happens as you go up the skill ladder.

Keep in mind, the Axis chest is one of the bulkier/stiffer ones on the market. It's going to be a massive change in what you're currently wearing.

I guess that is true, but I need all the help I can get

8 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said:

I don't understand what you mean by this?

A lot of players in U18 in aus shoot HIGH, and i have a tendency to overshoot just a bit, so i need a chesite that fits that. And the ccm axis does. But i will take your opinions into action.

6 hours ago, BadAngle41 said:

I use a Maltese, but Passau or Eco Pro are very similar in construction. All are pretty flexible yet provide great protect for lower neck and clavicle. Kova will be very stiff in comparison but a great protective choice as well. If you're getting hit any higher on the neck than these typically go (1 1/2" up your neck) my suggestion would be doubling up with a dangler.

Thanks, I didn't wear a dangler until a few week ago, but even my 3 NECK GUARDS couldn't stop a puck from hurting my throat. So i wear 3 neck guards and a dangler.

5 hours ago, A.YOUNGoalie13 said:

Aegis makes what IMO is the best neck guard available. I have taken shots that missed my chest protector and hit me directly in the clavicle area or neck and I didn’t even get a bruise. 

Thanks. I have heard or Aegis and they us D3O, but i haven't tried one on. I'll give it a try. 

Pretty sure it is just more movement in the knee area.

5 hours ago, A.YOUNGoalie13 said:

Get to a store and try one on. Then you don’t have to worry about ordering the wrong size or any other potential issues like that. Also have to think about this: great if something makes you look bigger but if you can’t move in it, that’s not going to be very helpful. Make sure you get something that you can move in.

For me, i can't try on anything, only some gear to get a feeling of sizing because i live in Australia. Also most chesties i have tried on are ok, and i heard the axis is pretty good at that how ever you look at it. But thanks.

5 hours ago, coopaloop1234 said:

First thing we need to know is what your access is to being able to try on C/A's.

Second is we'd need to understand what you have used and what you like and didn't like about it.

Third, we'd want to know what you're looking for in a new C/A.

Sidebit: I've heard parroted from a few sales guys that the Premier/Axis C/A's are better suited for guys with very broad shoulders and there's a trend of guys not meeting that criteria forcing themselves into these C/A's solely because they like how big it is. Even to their own detriment.

You do make a good point, The broad shoulders thing is a thing i considered, But is play U15 and U18, and they shoot higher, so i need and chestie that fit my standers and also the shooters standers to. (as is size wise)

But thanks

2 hours ago, Desert Tendy said:

Try Kova.  I have never worn one but a lot of folks like them.  I myself prefer Passau gel neck guard.

50 minutes ago, bunnyman666 said:

Factory Mad is more of a “hard” neck guard and has washable bits that contact the neck and clavicle.

Thanks

I always use clamps and leave it for a few hours and boom it closes better. Leave it for a few days and you will definitely see the difference. 3 days before my game i would clamp my glove and as soon as i get in the game, it is ready to go. 

Thing about getting an axis 1.9 chestie. I know it makes you look visually bigger, wondering if i should get it or not.

Getting to many head and throat hunters during practice. Can't use the new neck guard because they have literally no protection. I have used the Bauer S18 neck guard, absolute dog crap. I know Nhl goalies wear old neck guards as they are harder, looking to fin a decent one.

I use a bauer dangler and i use skate lace, i suggest you put the stings high on the sides so you have movement but enough protection, then at the chin put it low. It works well if you want movement and protection. The chestie will protect your side neck.

I think leferve as a company is one of the best, but true is probably going  to mess it all up.

3 hours ago, A.YOUNGoalie13 said:

Have you ever used true/lefevre yourself? Or Vaughn or Brian’s? Nothing is worth a 36 week wait. Vaughn and Brian’s have been around for a very long time as well, and have been defining quality standards for years. Hard to judge quality off of intermediate or junior gear that is made in Asia.

Good point

Just to let you know i am 13. The guy in the pic is 6.1

Some one stole my true gear so i got a replacement

Got to say that True/Leferve is the best goalie gear you can get out there in my opinion. You cannot beat Canadian crafted gear. Yes their shipping times are crazy, but it is expected for the quality and craftsmanship you get from someone who have been in the hockey business for years, and has probably made gear for pros. I ordered a set of true L12.1 when it was available, and it is still the same pads as it was when I got it. I say it is worth the wait for the gear you are getting. I would rather pay for true gear than get free vaughn gear. That is how good it is.