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6 hours ago, ArdeFIN said:

Kind of like Bauer did with skates, first the Vapor and Supreme were opposite to player skates in fit, and then after 2S they changed the fit between Vapor and Supreme to mess everything.

So why did they end up with something like this? Is the V10 or V11 going to be the "600" style as SLR2 was before or what? And so me liking the VE8 catcher should now get me SLR4 to get the same feeling? V9 wasn't even close to either SLR2 nor VE8. And talking of XP models here, I don't like the 2-piece ones at all.

Edit: checked the THS webshop and they have really nice lineup with "actual" pictures of the gloves side by side. What a mess is it with V10 and SLR4 

 

As Toobs close called it, it is the elastic that is only on one side of the finger that is doing things. I've fixed all my Vaughn blockers so that the elastics are on both sides since Vaughn uses dual elastic that can be split "easily". I think I've used similar method on some other brand blockers too.

This is one design thing that once again makes you wonder why they do it so bad? It wouldn't be any more difficult to do it better when building the glove. I was able to fix the issue somewhat without dismantling the whole glove.

The normal V10 glove will probably be closest to the VE8. They don’t really have a true 600 break glove anymore. But they have the V10 which is a one piece and closest to the 600 break. The thin red line guy on YouTube did a breakdown since he accidentally bought both the standard v10 and a v10 xp, the xp is the 590 clone and the same as the slr4 60 degree break.

7 hours ago, ZeroGravitas said:

Thanks! And speaking of fingers, I think the SLR4 index finger needs a little work. When I bend my index finger, the finger material seems to be bend in an awkward way. Maybe a side effect of the SLR4 fitting on the larger side?

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But on the Velocity 10, it seems to be just fine.

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I ordered my SLR4 with a V10 palm for that reason. The V10 has the palm material on 3 sides, whereas on the SLR it’s standard only on the palm, so when you grip the elastic pulls and rotates the index finger material.

1 hour ago, xmikex32 said:

Maybe I just didn’t give it a chance but when I tried the eclipse blocker it felt nose heavy and not balanced but all the reviews im seeing is everyone saying it’s balanced and light. 

Personally I love my eclipse blocker. It is probably the most similar to a supreme/Mach style. I find it to be very balanced and light.

9 hours ago, ZeroGravitas said:

My SLR4 gloves came the other day. Leg pads still on the way, I hope?

Blocker is stock SLR4, though I wonder if I should have gone with an INT palm as it feels pretty spacious. But I'm used to using a Bauer blocker.

Catcher is a 70 degree SLR4 - which is Vaughn's version of a 580. Went with the "Double Classic T" instead of the stock Single T. Pocket looks and feels huge, I have to doubt that it is NHL-spec.

Beautiful gloves! I love my new SLR4 70 degree. It catches everything. Best part of the new set for sure.

I think Vaughn still needs to work on their finger protection for their blockers, but I like the amount of pop I’m getting on the blocker so far.

5 hours ago, ArdeFIN said:

That is Velo style catcher, not SLR even though said to be SLR. Lacing, fingers to palm, structure overall.

I love VE8, hated V9 and now I think I have to get myself one 70deg to try as it looks just what I would like. 

BTW take a measure of the perimeter, my V9XP (not Pro Carbon) was about 116cm from factory and looked massive. It might be that Vaughn has started to make them a bit larger on pocket...

They got rid of the old SLR3 style catcher with the SLR4 line. What used to be the velocity XP glove is now the default SLR4 glove. It’s available in both 60 degree (590) and 70 degree (Vaughn’s version of a 580).

5 hours ago, xmikex32 said:

What's closer to a bauer mach/M5 blocker in fit, feel, and rebounds the iconik or optik?

Optik probably. Possibly also the eclipse, which I find better than the Optik personally.

3 hours ago, UCLALabrat said:

Is it safe to assume my current chesty has the same treatment? It's a pro-stock V8 with the K.

Not necessarily, it’s a custom option that not everyone goes for.

3 hours ago, UCLALabrat said:

You get a chance to put them on the ice? How the rebounds compare to the SLR4?

Yeah I’ve gotten both sets on the ice a few times. I’d say the rebounds are a bit hotter off the brians. After a few more skates with the Vaughn’s the rebounds actually feel pretty dead, especially for a stiff pad. I don’t mind that though, I’m old, sometimes I prefer just covering the puck haha.

17 minutes ago, xmikex32 said:

I want to make sure I’m understanding  correctly with your 17.75 ATK you are landing towards the top of the 33’s. So In Theory my 17.5 ATK would be pretty low in the 34 and 33 would be right about right for me? I kow there are factors that play into fitting. 

Correct. I definitely wouldn’t get a 34 if I were you, especially if you’re currently in a medium Bauer.

12 hours ago, xmikex32 said:

What’s you ATK and size of your Brian’s? I have yet been able to try a set on but might pick up some optiks on SL. I’m currently in M Bauer M5 and hitting good on the stack maybe little high. I’ve read Brian’s run a little big so idk if a 34 will be too big. Their sizing chart puts me in a 33, I have 17.5 ATK maybe a hair over that. 

I’m a 17.75 ish ATK. On the Gnetik I was middle to top 1/3 of knee block on a 33, and on the Iconik I’m right at the top of the block. Using a 33+1.5. They eliminated the big boot bump on the Gnetik so the iconiks fit a bit smaller, but probably only about a 1/2 inch or so. 33 works good.

Brians thigh rise is really where they get you… my +1.5 is 9 inches above the top of the knee block, which is the same as my true +2 thigh. My slr4s are like 8.75 above the knee on a +2, and some v10s I used are like 8.5ish.

12 hours ago, UCLALabrat said:

You spec the beefed up arms in your order? What you do to add that? 

You can specify wanting the NHL beef up package when custom ordering. Adds 1/4” LD foam to the arms.

On 4/14/2024 at 10:07 AM, UCLALabrat said:

Did you order the same config as the SLR4s? You had one knee break in those right? How they compare in stiffness?

So I’d say the stiff flex iconiks are actually still a bit more flexy than the stock flex SLR4. The thigh is pretty similar in both, but the Iconik has more flex at the knee bend, despite the knee break I added on the SLR4. I also ordered the soft boot on the SLR4 but the boot on the Iconik is still significantly softer and more flexible.

The iconiks are also a bit thinner and lighter. 

2 hours ago, UCLALabrat said:

Starting to get stingers in my V8 that a lot of folks talked about. Got one on the bicep last week and took one off the shoulder last night that a guy punched off my shoulder and in.

 

Granted on that one I wasn't really square so not sure if it's a me problem or not. Mobility on the V8 is great but not sure if I should look at more like the SLR line or go to a different brand.

I’ve got a custom Slr4 unit with beefed up arms. Great mobility, incredible protection. I barely feel anything.

1 hour ago, xmikex32 said:

Dang you’re making me want an eclipse glove more and more! I’m in a vapor 90 right now and love the glove closure BUT the only gripe I have is that the glove doesn’t seal the ice completely while covering and have had multiple times the puck coming out and one instance led to a goal. how is the eclipse on covering the puck? 
 

I had no issues with getting ice seal. The glove also presents massively which is different from my other 580s  (have used True, eflex 5, vapor90, and Vaughn 70 degree) that tend to have more of that banana shape look. 
 

It was also the most broken in glove out of the box I’ve ever used. Took basically zero work to get it nice and fappy.

On 4/24/2024 at 9:35 PM, McO said:

Did you have any chance try the eclipse in a game ?

I am looking to order a new 580 style glove since my true px3 is a little big for my small hands. I have a vapor 90 that I love but would like to know your opinion on the new eclipse glove before ordering either a vapor 90, an eclipse or a px3 with int palm (which was not available last year).

 

So after another use, the eclipse glove might be my new favorite glove. It closes a bit differently than a leferve 580, but it’s very comfortable and still similar enough to a 580 that it feels familiar. The single thin offset T helps create a massive pocket that catches everything. It’s a puck vacuum. I generally haven’t loved brians gloves but this thing is incredible. Also super lightweight.

The blocker is also very nice. It’s very light, comfortable, and well balanced on the hand. The only thing I don’t love is the index finger protection… the elastic connecting the finger guard seems like it’s a bit too long and doesn’t completely pull it sealed to the stick, so there’s a small gap that theoretically could see a puck hit and hit the index finger. Very small likelihood of that happening but it’s my one gripe.

1 hour ago, McO said:

Did you have any chance try the eclipse in a game ?

I am looking to order a new 580 style glove since my true px3 is a little big for my small hands. I have a vapor 90 that I love but would like to know your opinion on the new eclipse glove before ordering either a vapor 90, an eclipse or a px3 with int palm (which was not available last year).

 

I’ve got one skate with it so far and have another tomorrow night I’m gonna use it in. Will report back afterwards.

What I’ll say for it so far is that it is by far the most snappy glove out of the box I’ve ever seen. Required essentially zero break in. Kudos to Brian’s for that.

5 hours ago, UCLALabrat said:

The overall height is only about an inch higher on the first pic but not sure I had them squared up equally. I was hoping the total height would be the same but looks like the SLR4s are a skosh higher. I don't find that impedes movement at all but I haven't put them on with pants or on the ice yet so I'll wait to give feedback.

 

Dropping into my butterfly the seal seems good and the thigh rises square up pretty much perfectly against each other. Won't be able to tell how the integrated block helps with dropping, rotation and closure until I get them on the ice. On carpet at least they seem more stable so I hope it helps my movement. Being on the knee block I think will help immensely

 

I was at a stick n puck yesterday morning before they got here and practicing slides back and forth. The V9s tend to under rotate and I was falling off the top if the block do I was all over the place.

 

Overall I thought the knee block would be higher. When I tried them on with skates I was worried they still weren't tall enough

I think I dialed it in with strapping but I'll need to play around more.

The +2 thigh on a slr pad is about 0.5 inches higher than the +2 of an equivalent sized velocity pad, which explains why the new pads are slightly bigger overall. 
 

You can probably strap them up so they sit higher by tightening the top strap or using a Lundy loop or strapping the knee strap diagonally down to the calf.

41 minutes ago, UCLALabrat said:

My V9s don't even have the ankle strap, just a professor, knee strap, and calf wrap. I'll try it as is on the ice first but I may just remove it.

Honestly the lower strap isn’t even really necessary imo. I’ve been playing with mine super loose, not even sure it’s doing anything.

2 hours ago, UCLALabrat said:

Theyre heeeeeeeeeeeere....

First impressions out of the box: theyre gorgeous. I'll post more pics later but the knee block looks to be perfect for my sasquatch legs. 

The RRC straps came mounted inside the calf wrap, and I tried them on and found them uncomfortable (mostly the ankle being awkward).

I moved them to outside the calf wrap and it seems much better. Unfortunately I won't be able to get them on the ice for a bit since I have work obligations next week. I love the feel of them and the 5 hole closure is great. Knee block feels quite a bit better also compared to my V9s.

 

Beauty set! Missed your earlier question… I like the integrated knee block. Not too stiff at all and gets the pads to the ice quick. 
 

Liking them so far, especially the glove. My only gripe I think with the set is just how chunky they are. Wish they’d thinned them out more.

I agree the stock RRC straps are uncomfortable. You should try to get the V9 version from Vaughn, makes a big difference.

12 hours ago, AdamL said:

How's the backhand fit on the blocker compared to say a True blocker?  Does it press tightly to the back of the hand?

The thing I hated the most about my V9 blocker was was how plush the backhand pad was.  It might sound odd, but it put a noticeable amount of space between the back of my hand and the blocker board, so the energy from shots would get absorbed by that pad rather than producing any pop off the board.  The thing would even fulcrum around my hand if the shot hit the top 1/3rd or so of the board and the rebound would die within a few feet of me.  It was super comfortable and well-made, but from a performance perspective it was frankly unusable.  

The backhand is quite plush, but the board is thicker and quite stiff. Decent amount of pop off it and I have noticed the issue you mentioned at all so far.

Have had the chance to get these on the ice a bit. Absolutely love the glove and blocker. Both are super comfortable to wear and very lightweight. Good pop off the blocker. Glove was broken in after the first skate and catches exceptionally. 70 degree break is awesome.

Pads have been a bit of a mixed bag so far. They slide excellently, I contend that quickslide/primo is easily the best sliding material available currently. These and the iconiks I got a chance to demo were the best sliding pads I’ve used. Rebounds off these are mid range. Not soft but also not jumping off the pad like off bauers. These are also very stiff. I ordered them stock stiffness with a below knee break and a soft boot, but even with the soft boot the boot feels pretty stiff, and there’s not much flex at the knee break. The thigh is stiff which I like, but I do hope with a bit more use the boot and below knee break in a bit more. Compared to my PX3s they feel stiff as a board. But they seal the ice well and post integration is solid, but with the lack of flex I definitely noticed a bit more stress on my ankles and hips.

The chest protector is a tank. I don’t feel anything playing with pro level shots. It absorbs shots well too and is easy to cradle rebounds. But it is noticeably heavier than my hyperlite 2 unit. 

1 hour ago, froese said:

It really is kind of amusing. Although to The Hockey Shop's credit, I called once and spoke with Cam and asked about speedskin and he was pretty open about how bad it was and that no one really liked it. 

CCM obviously knew that too, but I get that they couldn't openly say that. They screwed up. Just like True and their Fastglide. 

What I don't understand is how either of those companies ever thought those products/materials should be used. Bizarre. 

I can’t believe true or CCM haven’t come up with an equivalent for primo/quickslide yet

2 hours ago, UCLALabrat said:

Did you order the same config as the SLR4s? You had one knee break in those right? How they compare in stiffness?

Iconiks should be here Thursday so I’ll let you know then. I actually ordered the stiff no break profile on the Iconik because I wanted the aggressive Z curve. So far with the slr4s the only thing I haven’t loved is how straight they are, I’m gonna try to work in a bit of a bend at the knee break. 

53 minutes ago, UCLALabrat said:

I went to place my order pretty convinced I was going with iconiks and ended up in slr4. I find this post ironic

Haha I’ll let you know which I like better 

3 minutes ago, Chenner29 said:

I contend the domestic manufacturers who offer custom graphics intentionally put out bad stock graphics to force you to go custom

True made solid graphics with the 12.2 and the PX3, and threw out the garbage that is the hzrdus graphic. It’s so bad.