jeff da goalie

I can't wait to play hockey in Israel.  Two of my kids made aliya and one of these days I'll bring a spare set of gear to play in.  

On 3/22/2021 at 10:25 AM, coopaloop1234 said:

Just remember, when you do join a new team, there's a reason they're looking for a goalie.

well, in my team's case we looked for a new goalie because I retired and am skating out only.  Started in net at 40 and now turning 50 and my knees are just too banged up to play.  So it's not always the team's fault.  

man, there's a lot of whining.  They scored.  It's not fair.

I'm not one of those old school goalies who say you have to stand up for everything, but yeah, they're scoring because goalies are using RVH for everything.  Stay up.  They won't score.  RVH is being overused.  

And tell the D that if they see someone going behind the net and doing that crap, check him.  They can't score if the puck isn't on the stick.  

And stay the hell off my lawn you damn kids.

Where is the new rink? 

I think the safety issues are overblown.  Goalies get hit in the face during games all the time even when these goals aren't an issue.

These are also relatively easy to defend.  Goalies: Stand the F up.  Done.

And the example you gave is an even easier one.  Stick check him, either up or down.  He can't maintain control of the puck.

I think it's kind of cool, but I'd also be surprised if there are many more of these, simply because everyone is going to get wise to it.

I'm not understanding the hate on this.  Sure, it's showboating, but so is every between the leg dangle, toe drag, whatever.  He's using his stick, so it's not like he's throwing, kicking, etc.  And it's clearly not banned or the goals would have been waved off.  

There are two simple solutions:  Goalies -- stay standing when he's on the ice and going around the net.  Defensemen -- clean his clock.  Good clean hit and he'll lose the puck.  If you can catch him.

Why take something fun to watch out of the game?  (And that's coming from someone who hates hates hates the shootout at the end of tie games).

On 8/9/2019 at 1:36 PM, bunnyman666 said:

His jock was literally a problem in search of a solution, I will say.

For me, his elastic “professor” strap was his beat thing, and it became the worst quality thing he carried. The original stuff was pretty good stuff.

I bought one of those.  It never worked.  The one I got that came with my Passau pads works much better, IMO

On 8/8/2019 at 8:59 AM, bunnyman666 said:

The biggest shame was that Jeff was an innovator and started out changing the game. His influence does live on, but I wish the influx of custom orders (and thusly all the cash) did not tempt him to become the contemptible Monster he became. 

meh.  he wasn't the first to come up with using elastic based stuff in lieu of skate laces or leather.  Brian's smart strapping predates him.  All he did was say "hey, I can use "military grade shock cord" and upcharge a lot."  And some of his stuff was just flat out stupid, IMO.  

22 hours ago, Punisher Goalie said:

Always looking for something new lol. This is the first ever custom set and I am quite stoked. First time a set will have every spec I want all in one. Hoping for a long happy time with this set (when it finally arrives). The color I went with should look nice with that Olympia “Cooper” bucket from you too

have you worn the combo yet?  

I shouldn't talk, I just ordered a Passau set.

4 hours ago, Punisher Goalie said:

I placed an order for EF4s at the end of last week and was quoted 8-10 weeks. 

Another set??? 

how do these slide compared to the G3 or G4?  Same question with regard to rebounds?  

I'm in the market for new pads but can't decide between the G4 or the GT2.  I'm more of a hybrid than a strict butterfly, but I do slide and I love the big rebounds off my G3s.  

I should note that I have a very narrow bfly (really a Jiggy fly) and while I love the G3s, I can't quite close the 5 hole on them.  Not sure if the GT2 would help.  

7 hours ago, Lucky Pucker said:

Great initial review - but just to clarify: which is the NEW set again...?

Interesting that you're in a 35 +1; I'm also 5'11", and find my 34+1 are too big.

Look forward to hearing about your first skate with the whole family!

Height is irrelevant.  I'm 5'11".  I'm in a 34+1.5.  I was playing with a guy who is 6'2".  Also in a 34 inch pad.  Why?  His height is all torso.  short legs.  

i'll give that a try.

1 minute ago, SaveByRichter35 said:

Do you wear the sleeves over the wrist bands or the bands over the sleeves?

wrist bands over sleeves.  

11 hours ago, Chenner29 said:

Just curious, do you wear a long sleeve or short sleeve shirt underneath your c/a? And if a long sleeve, are the wrists snug?  

I have noticed I lose grip a lot faster when I wear a loose long sleeve. 

I don’t wear wrist bands, though. Sounds like there may be a market for a Sham wrist band to go along with the sweatband 

Long sleeve, snug with wrist bands.  I bought a pair of batting gloves, will give it a try.

Looking for a recommendation for something to wear under my gloves.  As the game goes on I sweat so much that my hands in my gloves are less grippy.  I use wrist bands, but I'm looking for batting gloves or other suggestions.  Thanks!

I had one from SkinFx. It was fine.  Not great.  The seams were noticeable and there was some bubbling.  I think that I was disappointed because for $300 I was expecting closer to a paint job (based on all the Facebook pics, they look flawless, but clearly aren't).  Heck, my first paint job was only $450.  I think it's a good alternative if you can't afford a paint job, but don't think it's the same.  

Didn't have any peeling with it.  

26 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said:

So they are open and still a company?

They seem to be.  But you'd have to be a full on raging idiot to buy anything from them.  

I think it's just tone deaf of Bauer.  Fine, license the tech (not that it's not pretty obvious) but why brand it as Monster?

Ok, have to update now that I have a few skates in.  The Roughneck velcro is definitely lacking.  The EPF design is definitely superior there.  

5 minutes ago, goalieThreeOne said:

Yeah. Knee pads are the wrong application for D30. Because just the same way the gel firms up when it hits the ice, it also firms up where your knee lands in the pad. It would feel like concrete. It's great for chest protectors and glove palms because your body is staying static against the gear and all you want to do is dampen the impact of a puck. You don't really care if the puck is "comfortable" when it hits the D30. 

Exactly.  

10 minutes ago, goalieThreeOne said:

My apologies. I thought you were being skeptical of the D30. I didn't realize you were commenting on the construction of the neckguard, which, I agree with.

Correct.  I've got no beef with D30.  I've had D30 kneepads that were fine, but nothing special (although they hurt when dropping into the butterfly for obvious reasons).  Just because something is good in one context doesn't mean it necessarily is in another.  

17 hours ago, Chenner29 said:

Not an apples to apples comparison here.

The Aegis uses a very thin sheet (1/8"?) cut into multiple segments so there are some gaps in coverage.

The EcoPro, Roughneck, and Maltese use 1/4" HD plus 1/4" LD foam layered on one another.  The collar and clav pad are flush so there are no gaps in padding.

Besides their use in hockey gear for impact protection, there is little similarity between the two materials.  D30 is a plastic based material while Poron is a closed cell foam.

Not downtalking D30 here, I think it's a fantastic material when used correctly...but the force of a falling wrench at 9.8 meters per second (gravity on earth; roughly 22mph) is not the same as a puck shot at 60-70 mph.

This.  (although gravity is -9.8 meters per second squared.  One of the few things I remember from physics. ;))  

It's a thin layer of D30 and it's not flush.  I could see using it with something else, but I guess one way of looking at is like a kevlar vest.  A kevlar vest will stop most bullets.  But it's thin and it's right on your body, so you may still break a rib and certainly will get bruised if shot.  Not comparing bullets to pucks (I guess I am), but a thin layer right against your neck and you might still face some damage.  The thicker gel types will spread the impact more.

I think the Aegis is a good concept, but I'd layer it on top of a gel based one and I'd think it would be more protective that way.

So, here's a comparison having owned all four neckguards mentioned in the title, including two iterations of the Maltese.

The EcoProFoam (EPF), Roughneck, and Maltese are all variations of a theme.  The Roughneck and Maltese both have the "mullet' or skirt in the back.  The EPF does not.  I can't tell you whether the Maltese foam is the same as in the EPF and Roughneck, but it's certainly similar.  

They all weigh roughly the same.  I've heard the Maltese is heavier but I sold mine so I can't compare.  But any difference in weight is negligible.  

In terms of comfort, those three are all pretty much the same with one minor variation, but it's a moderately significant one.  The EPF uses a wider velcro closure and covers it with material.  The Roughneck is a thinner piece and doesn't cover it.  I don't remember the Maltese.  The roughneck is slightly less comfortable because of the exposed strap and because it's thinner.  It's a slight disadvantage.

In terms of material covering the guards, both the EPF and Roughneck use spandex or something like it.  It's a tiny complaint, but both already show signs of fading where the material pulls, such as at the corner.  Maybe not fading per se, but it's pulled so tight that it shows lighter than it is.  Not a huge issue, but my Maltese didn't do that.  

I'm going to throw the Aegis in for a quicky review.  It's the most comfortable of the bunch.  It's lightweight and doesn't retain heat like the others.  However, I'll only wear it at low level skates because I'm not that confident in its ability to deaden impacts like the gel-based ones.  I think that D30 is an interesting concept, I'm not sure I want to risk my neck with it.  What would be interesting would be a thinner gel piece covered with D30.  If someone came out with that I'd buy it in a heartbeat.  (Who am I kidding, I'm a goalie, tell me it will change my game and I'd buy anything in a heartbeat).

Long story short, I'll probably keep both the EPF and Roughneck but the EPF gets a slight nod for comfort.  Service from both companies was top notch.  

1 hour ago, Puckstopper said:

No, it IS true.  You've got one example of someone who designed but did not release an original pad while working there.  The simple fact is that Simmons were the biggest pack of knockoff artists on the market.  They were certainly not the only ones who'd buy another MFG's pad, deconstruct it and copy it part for part, but they were certainly the biggest and loudest. 

And I don't mind that they copied it.  That's for the other manufacturer to deal with.  it was the incessant carping about how the other manufacturers sucked and "we're better because we're made in Canada" crap that bothered me.  

Just now, Naz said:

Saw this just posted on the Simmons FB page

RETIREMENT SALE- ALL INVENTORY BEING LIQUIDATED. SALE AND BUSINESS ENDING AND CLOSING MAR.30/2019. THANKS FOR FORTY FOUR GREAT YEARS. 1975-2019. 
800-598-9298.

Just saw that as well.  talk about clones.  I thought their gear was fine, but I hated their constant carping about off-shore gear.  "Buy ours, it's made in Canada" all the while ripping off other companies' designs (not just graphics, but actual pad designs).