Matt

Thanks!  My kid just bought a proto v so I guess we'll see.  I'll mention that model to him.  I suspect he will have to step down to slightly less of a "performance" stick.

Hello all.  I haven't posted here in sometime but thought this might interest some of you and hopefully have you some cash...  My small attempt to repay some of the advice I've gotten over the years...

Be warry of spending your money on the Bauer Mach Supreme line of sticks.  While my son says the performance is excellent , they don't hold up at all.  We purchased 3 sticks and Bauer comp'ed us a fourth due to our experience.  All three original sticks have now broken.  2 broke (in the exact same spot) on the paddle right above the curve after maybe 5 hours of use.  These sticks still still are okay to practice with.  The third stick had its spine broken Saturday night after a whopping 5 games.

I know sticks can break at any time, but in the same league last year, my son would expect to get 15 games out of his Warriror V2 pro+ sticks.  My son has spoken to a few of his friends that use the stick and they are all seeing the same break.  Right above where the blade starts.  Its starts with a crack.  You tape it up, the crack expands...  Eventually its looks like something you could cut wheat with in a field... The sticks are still very solid in this state.  Still performs the same...

I sent all this info into Bauer and told them I thought they had a design issue or a production flaw.  They disagreed...

just be warry.  My kid says its a great performer.  If you team is paying don't worry stick with it I guess...

Will it hold up better than the Mach Supreme?  Those sticks are more brittle than 100 year old man.

My son apparently used this one to fight off a shark attack...

On 4/15/2019 at 3:58 PM, Teezle said:

Did you profile them, or sharpen them differently as compared to the 190s? If not, how is the stock profile on the True 2-piece? I haven't gotten my hands on them yet (a couple more weeks before I have the free time to drive up - curse you, waiting!), but I've heard that you don't need as low of a radius with them. I currently use 3/8" on my Grafs, but I've also never replaced the original steel that came with them (I think it is pretty soft), so who knows what the profile on them looks like now.

These are my kids skates.  To answer you question though, I had the holders removed and replaced with vertexx  holders to match what he had on the 190s.  He's comfortable in the 3mm and its not a great time for him to be changing his gear.  

@aircanuck that sucks!  Definitely sounds like something was off the rails.

My kid had a short session last night with his coach.  He decided to test out the new skates.  As he came off the ice he told me he was never going back to his old 190s. 

Only issue we had was the new vertexx holders need some tweaks.  One of the blades won't sit properly (i.e. all the way engaged).  I cleaned it up quite a bit last night, but it was still not right so I'm taking it back tot he shop to let them figure it out.

For people who bought 2 piece.  How long did it take you to feel "comfortable" in your new skates?  i.e. how many touches or hours before you got used to them?

My kids skates came in last week.  Took about 2.5 weeks.  Very surprised at the turn around time.  Store manager said True is really pumping them out fast right now (and its a slow time of year).  Kid can't wear them for another 2 weeks though.  He has evals in a couple of weeks.  Probably not a great idea to switch skates this close...

1 hour ago, ZeroGravitas said:

You can opt to get the boot without the holder mounted. You'll still get the holder separately, but you'll be paying the full price. Previously there was a discount if you went boot-only, but that's gone now.

Thanks! appreciate the info! 

Just curious if anyone knows if just buying the boot is still an option.  I was at my local PHL today the guy there didn't seem to think so, but they've been wrong before.

I promised my kid that once his feet stop growing I'd get him 2 piece skates.  He's been in the same 190s for two season now so its probably True time.  I was thinking about him using his existing vertex holder (with this Tydan blades).  That is of course assuming the sizing matches up.

Any vertex users try the true holder and flip back?  Maybe I'll just get the true holders and hold off on selling the old skates until he decides...

How does the size of that step blade compare to the Tydan DLC?  

On 9/26/2018 at 12:58 AM, coopaloop1234 said:

Hopefully this is the bowl of porridge that's just right. 

So far so Good!

This followed us home last week...  only a few hours in, but he likes it (so far).  Says its very light and mobile.

16 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said:

Kinda neat to see how much smaller the Optik is visually.

yeah.  I'm sure it will scare some people a bit.  I know I was worried about it, but after watching in game I'm really not that concerned.  Mobility is king and his helps.

How about game video?  First game action in about a month.  First period saves.  Only played the first half of the game, I don't move my camera between periods.  I'm crazy, but not that crazy.  My kid, not me. btw...

33 minutes ago, jayluv54 said:

In case he wants to go back to a 1X, I've got a lightly used Large that I'm looking to unload...beats buying a new one.

Thanks, but I think he's married to that Optik now.

Just another followup on the Optik vs 1X sizing.  I realized I never took a picture during the month he had the 1X, but I did have game video.  He also just played his first game in the Optik Monday (which I have video of).  So I did a screen grab of each.  Its not the greatest quality, but you can really see the difference.

See how square the 1X is.  It also rides up quite a bit at the back of the helmet.  One of the first things my kid commented on was how much easier he could move his head around.  BTW, we did sinch it up quite a bit to try and beef up the shoulders a bit.  Still way smaller than the 1X.

He took a couple of rockets to the chest that night and didn't blink an eye...

Personally I think these are both great units.  Just depends on what you are looking for.

40 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said:

Great info. That's the unit I have coming and why I have not tried the 1X. I believe this unit was designed to be ready for the new NHL spec and that's why it's more form fitting around the shoulders. I agree the mobility outweighs the Garth Snow look. 

I read that as well about the NHL spec, but I was under the impression that it would need tweaks to be spec compliant.  

I'm almost concerned that this chesty is a little too trimmed down.  We'll see what we can do with some adjustments.  Its really an incredibly big difference.

3 hours ago, TheGoalNet said:

1X seems like a really nice unit. I have been wanting to try one. Someone told me they had heard there was arm issues with this unit. I am not sure if that's true or not, but maybe this is what they were referring to. 

Did you get the same 1X again or a different brand? 

The intent was to get a new 1X, but... They had the new Optik in (finally).  I wasn't intending to have him switch, but once he tried it on he really liked it.  He had his first ice time with it on last night.  So 1X Large -> Optik Large

His comments:

• Easy break in.  i.e he already feels great in it.
• much more form fitting
• feels like he's got more protection
• feels like he can move much easier.  Not that the 1X was bad...

My comments:

• Visually this CA is way more form fitting.  The 1X sat way higher up on his shoulders.  It gave him that "no neck" look with square shoulders.  The Optik doesn't have that, much more fitting with rounder shoulders.  Not sure if that is a great option or not.  He did look more imposing in the 1X.  I guess this is a size vs mobility thing.  Personally I'll take mobility all day...  We'll see if we can tweak the shoulders a bit to claw back a touch of that shoulder.
• its a fair bit thicker on the chest.  What he's lost on shoulders, he's gained in the pecs.

Overall he's very happy with it.  It cost me an extra $50 but it is a nice unit.  The extra adjustments in it are a nice touch as well.  My kid used to always wear the warrior chesty so we're happy to get back in a unit that you can tweak a lot easier.

5 minutes ago, jayluv54 said:

I haven't had that problem with mine, but I do know that the arms are a little short for the size, so its possible if his arms were too long that he was putting a lot of tension on that seam.  

That is the most likely scenario.  My kid has really long arms.  When we sized the 1X, it probably could have gone with the XL instead of the large, but the problem was that the XL body was just too big for him.  It seems weird that Bauer put no adjustment mechanism in these arms since most makes seem to have at least a little bit of play.  Its a great unit otherwise.  Nice and light, good protection...

bough my goalie a new 1X chesty to replace is X900.  He liked the X900 but he'd out grown it and it wasn't padded enough for the level of hockey he plays.  So we upgraded him to the 1X.  According to him the feel was pretty much the same.  Wasn't crazy about the arm setup in that you can't adjust them at all.  Seems a little strange to me really.

Anyway, about a month later (not a lot of ice times), the arms have started pulling apart completely from the body.  Picture doesn't do a great job of illustrating it, but one arm is almost completely off.  This is probably just a one off bad stitching job, but to be honest I could see this being a common failure point with this unit.  There really isn't all that much holding this together.  My cheap Jofa shoulder pads I paid $49 for have more substance to the stitch.  Anyway, good on local prohockeylife, they took it back and let us flip into a different chesty..