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As far as I understand, it is not the blade that creaks, but parts of the holder that shift under pressure from the blade. Because True’s “one-piece holder” is far from being one-piece in reality. A separate plastic holder is somehow attached to the boot and then covered with carbon fiber on top. These are the parts that rub against each other

I poured super glue between them and see what happens

37 minutes ago, ThatCarGuy said:

I had the same issue after only a season of use with my one pieces a few years ago. After sending them to True twice to be repaired True deemed them unfixable, sent them back to me, and asked if I wanted a new pair of one piece or two pieces skates free of charge. Ended up opting for the two piece skates.

I never was able to fix my one pieces and ended up selling them for cheap.

Thanks for your feedback. It won't fix the problem, but at least now I know it's possibly a systemic design problem. Thank you

Hi all!

I encountered the same phenomenon as in the topic title. When walking in skates from the locker room to the ice and back, you can hear the creak and crunch of the blade in the holder. The blade sits tightly, the bolt is tightened. Visually the holder is intact but in the middle part it is a little flexible.

I haven’t taken any photos yet, but if they are needed to make a diagnosis, I will. I also noticed that when I took it out, the blade had some sort of black sealant/paste applied along the edges of the plane that is inserted into the holder.

Has anyone encountered anything like this?

p.s. This is not a fart of the blade on the ice due to the rigidity of the skate, but a crunch/creak when walking. You can't hear this sound on ice.

these skates

thanks to everyone who will respond and help fix the problem

11 hours ago, MTH said:

Dave Art ruins everything.

If he made a mask with 'Seattle Lifestyle' and coated it in flannel. That would rule.

Not paint that looks like flannel with glitter and whatever BS name he uses for his work. No. I want to see actual flannel stretched over the mask and glued on. Skates that look like Doc Martens. Etc.

Come on Seattle goalies. You can do this right.

Seattle has recently been associated with this for me

12 minutes ago, ThatCarGuy said:

Looks like 20.2. His newer Hzrdus PX stuff is even thinner. Part of the reason they look so thin is they're also huge

I couldn't find any photos from the new season, but I meant the new pads. Thank you. they are definitely interesting

Can anyone tell me the model of the pads? the profile looks very thin. not much like what Lefebvre always did

10 hours ago, coopaloop1234 said:

You caught me. This is how I actually play. 

In our business, the main thing is to close your eyes in time. haha

I like the combination of colors and textures of the materials in your set

13 hours ago, ThatCarGuy said:

Completely agree on US stiffness. I probably won't even bother with a Shadow set since it's unlikely the glove will work well for me. 

Tunefit+ is good but I liked the CCM/Lefevre super tight fit so much more and G6 feels very similar once you make a simple strapping change. Before True entered the goalie market a large majority of the goalies at the NHL level in Eflex were using the super tight fit option and it made no sense until I tried it myself. It allows a very connected feel to the pad without sacrificing rotation or mobility. It's part of why I liked playing in my EF5s (its shame speedskin and a 580 ruined that set lol)

I'm way behind on the new products you guys are using. I only have 1S and 1X, that is, the first generation of these pads. but I also felt a huge difference in the superior fit and softness of the 1X pad compared to the 1S and now only use them

continuation of a story.

after purchasing good insoles (not special hockey insoles, but good orthopedic ones), skating became absolutely comfortable

Perhaps “comfortable” is the best word to describe the feel of these skates. How's it going with True? "no pain. all game." quite fair

using a velcro top strap was also a good idea. he coped with his function perfectly. But as I wrote earlier, due to the fact that the eyelet area on True's boots is very soft (relative to the bottom of the boot) and because of my thin chicken feet, this strap had to be tightened tightly. and as with ordinary laces, it was not always possible to accurately “catch” the tightening torque, which was not entirely convenient.

the way out is simple. put an adjustable buckle.

after all, that’s exactly what Bauer did on his Konect

I was reinventing the wheel that was invented before me...

the buckle was installed instead of the strap. To do this, I had to break the seam and separate all parts of the skate at the place where the nuts for fastening the buckles were installed, and then glue and sew everything back together

and here it is

everything is fine now

these are now my favorite skates

of course this affected their weight. but the number is scary only on the scales, you still can’t feel it on your leg

and although now I am 100% equipped with a gear that suits me and likes it, out of habit I continued to look through offers for used equipment

and then they appeared...

True one piece

for very good money

they were twice as expensive as my 2 pieces but were in simply excellent condition

there were some minor scuffs, including on the tongues

but these are not problems that require urgent intervention

especially when compared with the state of 2 pieces

judging by the design of the logo on the side panel and the side panel itself where leather is used instead of a rubber 2 piece insert, this is one of the early 1 piece models. It’s even more surprising that they are so well preserved

The skates have Step BlackSteel blades.

These are some of the coolest blades I've heard.

The seller stated size 9 (my size is exactly the same as 2 pieces).

but upon arrival it turned out that they were size 10, which was printed on the insole.

Moreover, both 1 piece and 2 pieces have size 10 blades

whereas the length of the boot differs very much

in addition to the difference in size, this is also explained by the fact that on 1 piece the toe cap is not installed close to the composite boot, but at a considerable distance, which may be explained by the difference in the design of the boots

It is believed that 1 piece is the heaviest skate to date. Yes, against the backdrop of Bauer this is indeed true.

Bauer

True 1 piece

but if you compare it with very heavy 2 piece buckles, then this is quite an acceptable weight

Even while waiting for the skates, I was tormented by doubts about adapting to them. I've been playing on Vertex holders for many years and have gotten very used to them. as everyone knows, 1 piece has a more neutral leg position relative to the ice than Vertex with a pronounced forward tilt

I read all the threads one piece at a time here, for which I thank their creators and even asked a few stupid questions in one of the threads and am very grateful to the guys who responded to my questions

I bought another set of orthopedic steles and baked skates with them. after which he went on the ice. I already had two ice with 1 piece. the first is training with skaters and the second is a full game

The very first impression is that the balance has changed a lot due to the change in the shape of the holder to a more neutral one. I fell back heavily, losing my balance. but by the middle of the workout my body adapted and the imbalance disappeared

second. as many have pointed out, I also started making fart sounds when braking)))

As far as reducing the stress on the hips, as many have mentioned, this has likely happened to me as well. after and gr my thighs often hurt in the upper part in the area of the hip joints. after two ices with 1 piece so far I have not noticed such pain

third. 1 piece allowed me to get into a wider stance without noticeable muscle strain. this is perhaps the most important positive feeling from these skates at the moment

but there was some negativity. The angle of attack of 1 piece is simply terrible! I have to lift my knee very high off the ice when doing the butterfly push. Of course, over time I will get used to it, but at the moment it is very noticeable and interferes with the game. The good news is that I very rarely slide into the butterfly, using this position mainly only to deflect shots, most of the time moving along the crease on my legs

Also, of course, you should pay attention to the greater rigidity of 1 piece compared to 2 pieces. their stiffness is comparable to the stiffness of my homemade skates. 2 pieces are noticeably behind in this regard

1 piece feels less comfortable than 2 pieces but I like it. I liked these skates and I will keep them and continue to play with them occasionally exchanging for 2 pieces

thanks to everyone who read and commented on this thread and also thanks to everyone who responded to my questions 1 piece

18 minutes ago, Chenner29 said:

To answer your question, going from True 2pc to True 1pc was an easy transition for me.
Had a slight challenge with fighting the right hollow.  I would either get 3/8 or 7/16" with 2pc, have since taken it down to 9/16 or 5/8".
You'll be going from a 3mm wide blade with 2pc to 4mm wide with 1pc, plus the lack of flex between outsole and holder.  The skate "feels" sharper at a shallower cut.
To contrast, it probably took me 5-8 skates to get comfortable from cowling to 2pc.
Most annoying thing with the 1pc is the steel farts/howls when you hard stop

 

I appreciate your input. I have heard quite a lot about farts/screams and have personally experienced them on my homemade skates (if you read my thread about them), although they are made as 2 pieces, they are much stiffer than 2 pieces of True. and when I was freshly sharpening, I scared the whole skating rink with these sounds. lol p.s. I meant your transition from previous skates to 2 pieces

Also, please tell me these sharpening numbers (3/8, 9/16, etc.) - is this the diameter or radius of the circle of the depth of the hole on the blade? We just have a different system for assessing sharpening depth and I would like to compare it with it

7 hours ago, Chenner29 said:

 

I think I did a comparison of 1pc vs 2pc (Bauer Holder) a few years ago.  IIRC Bauer holder is .25 in the forefoot and .5" higher in the heel?

I never got used to the height on the 2pc, always felt like my weight was up higher than I wanted.  Probably partly a mental thing.  Went from cowling > 2pc > 1pc and really love the feel of the 1pc. 

Before asking my stupid question, I read everything that is on this board on this issue. and your comparison is one of the first. For which special thanks to you! I assume that you switched to 2 pieces from a regular holder equivalent to 1 piece, so the transition was difficult. I have the opposite situation). I'm not worried about the quality and durability of True, I know how to bring things back to life. but the main question is the difficulty of the transition. In any case, the trigger is pulled and the skates are coming towards me. I don’t know what will happen next. I hope I can get used to it and won't have to sell them in disappointment.

13 hours ago, RedX said:

For me I like being closer to the ice. You may feel a little flatter footed because they aren’t pitched forward so it will be up to you find your balance point.

For me the best part of being lower to the ice is less stress on my hips and knee when I recover to my feet. I’ve played around with taller steel and taller holders, which may make catching your edge and pushing slightly easier when you’re already in your butterfly. Hopefully yup can imagine this in your head, when I was recovering, since my blade is taller and my holder is taller, therefore my knee is now higher then my old skates when I start to recover to my feet. Since switching into the one piece 4-5 years ago I’ve noticed my hips and knees feel much better. 

thanks for your response! You're not the first to talk about reducing stress on your hips and I'm inclined to trust your experience. The last time I was closer to the ice with the “flatfoot effect” was on Koho 260 10 years ago. and my body has long forgotten this feeling)) since then only Vertex and recently also with a blade increased in height. this combination transferred to my True 2 pieces. The angle of attack is such that when pushing out of the butterfly I almost don’t have to lift my knee off the ice.

I really liked the Truee boots and would like to try 1 piece of them. but the transition worries me. how quickly can I adapt and how will this affect my game?

Lately my thighs have started to hurt in the upper part around the hip joint, and reading your review as well, I’m starting to think that it’s not just old age, but the height of the skate has begun to influence it

15 minutes ago, Madmedic6 said:

One piece use less energy transfer and the pitch of the skate itself is more neutral than the two piece. Attack angle is also different given the height difference between the blades and boot. One piece only come in 4mm steel, while you can get 3mm or 4mm for two piece. 

Yes, I know these nuances. I'm more interested in the difference in sensations from the interaction of my feet with skates and ice.
in any case, thank you very much for your response

19 hours ago, Madmedic6 said:

Really liking the new updates to true custom boots so far. 

they look absolutely fantastic! always wanted white skates

Can anyone share their experience of riding 1 piece and 2 piece? How much difference is there in the height of the skate and the inclination of the holder? Will the transition from 2 pieces to 1 piece be smooth or will it take some getting used to?

I will be grateful for any feedback

great work! When I had warrior knee pads and ribock pants I did the same thing, attaching the knee pads to the pocket velcro. I also think the warrior knee pads are one of the best in terms of comfort and ergonomics, but I never had the problem you mentioned (maybe because of my thin legs, haha)

great idea and implementation

thank you for sharing your impressions. I'm not looking for a replacement right now, my Warrior (the only thing I'm wearing right now that doesn't carry the Bauer brand) is still in very good condition, but I'll put your experience to good use

this will probably be the most difficult part of the story because I will need to find the right words to describe my feelings and try to compare True with other skates

Comparing True with S29 makes no sense since these skates are at two different poles. primarily technologically. if I had transferred from S29 directly to True, then the whole comparison would have come down to one word - Wow! but in front of True there were homemade skates and everything is not so simple here

upon completion of the work, I baked them using Mr. Van Horne’s technology

so first skating

before going out on the ice I fastened them (as it seemed to me) relatively tightly

but composite skates, and this includes my homemade skates, have one very amazing ability (true skate owners confirm, I often read about this ability in reviews of users of these skates).

This ability lies in the fact that “in the cold” when you put on your skates, they fit on your feet with great difficulty and seem very tight, sometimes they even pinch, although you baked them correctly.

but literally after 10-15 minutes of riding they seem to soften and re-fit the leg, reducing all discomfort to zero.

I still don’t understand how and why this happens. this happened with my homemade skates, this also happened with True

They became looser, so I had to remove the pads and fasten the skates tighter. After that the skating went smoothly.

despite the baking, the Trues were felt on the foot as something alien, that is, the brain understood that they were wearing skates on their feet. This is not surprising, since this is a custom model that does not fit my foot. but there was no particular discomfort. on the contrary, which surprised me, given the presence of very thin foam in the padding of the boot (twice as thin as in homemade skates), I felt comfortable

not as comfortable as in homemade skates, but definitely more comfortable than in Bauer. of course, because the homemade skates were made from a cast of my foot. and here homemade 10 out of 10, True 8 out of 10

it gave a certain pride that a simple guy could make skates no worse (technically) than an entire company with a big name.

The feeling of foreignness was primarily influenced by the so-called “landing” (I don’t know how to say it correctly in English) - the position of the leg in the skate relative to the ice. which was not very clear to me, since I used the same Vertexx holder of the same size as on the S29 and on the homemade skates. but it definitely felt different.

overall the ice session went almost perfectly and the skates didn’t interfere much

what did I understand.

True's boots are definitely softer than homemade ones. at the same time, in the lower part they are similarly rigid, but the upper part above the ankle and the eyelet area is much more “pliable” than on my homemade ones. This is understandable if we remember the structure of True, where in the area of the eyelets PE plastic was used, which has little connection with the main part of the boot and is itself softer than the composite, and in the upper part above the ankle there was generally something obscure that did not contribute to rigidity.

not having True on hand when making homemade skates, not knowing the real features of True’s boot, afraid of messing up, I made the entire homemade boot with the same stiffness in all zones. and it turned out to be stiffer than True's boot as a result.

the use of two fastening points (as on Konekt) on True's boots, precisely because of their uneven rigidity, showed excellent results instead of using one buckle on stiffer homemade skates

The first ride showed the presence of a huge (as it seemed then) space in the toe caps. and it doesn't matter that I glued foam there everywhere around my toes. the second sensation was that the foot was “sliding” forward and the toes were resting on the front wall of the shoe

I decided to remove the excess free space the old way - insert another insole (initially there were two of them in Truya). This insole was made very simply - I cut it out of linoleum)) by the way, a very useful life hack, time-tested. Initially, the outer layer of linoleum is very hard and wear-resistant, it is placed face down on the rivets and perfectly eliminates the bites of the rivets, and the soft layer of linoleum gives comfort

second skating

It has already become better and the linoleum insole has made the position of the foot in the skate more dense

but did not eliminate the “slipping” of the foot forward. which is understandable, since the thickness of the insoles has increased over the entire area. it was necessary to increase the thickness of the insole in the front part, changing the angle of the foot in the boot. but there was nowhere to increase it. then I took out the extra insole and instead glued a piece of foam to the front of the main insole, just like I did on the homemade skates. and it worked. the third ride went without any problems

to summarize.

It was a very interesting experience, although slightly "distorted" by the earlier production of composite skates from scratch, but overall, it was very interesting to restore True's skates to working condition. Perhaps in the process I will have more to say about them, but that’s all for now.

Thanks to everyone who read and commented.

16 minutes ago, Hockey34 said:

Ok that makes sense because I can’t find it anywhere online here

I receive them in Russia without any problems, but I cannot deliver them to North America

17 hours ago, Hockey34 said:

Where do you get them from?

I am from Russia. no problem getting them here

15 hours ago, Hockey34 said:

What kind of steel is that?

BVS. Ice Hockey Goalie Blades Compatible with TUUK EDGE Holders. Country of origin: Russia. Material High carbon stainless steel. Hardness: 46-50 HRS. Thickness: 2.93mm.

Geometrically comparable to LS5G + 4mm

I got them for a very good price of $40 including shipping (new) and recently ordered another one

boots are ready, it's time to install the holders. I have been using Vertexx holders for many years now and have become accustomed to them. True will also be like this. I bought a couple of these in reserve when making homemade skates

as I said, the carbon in the sole is very thin and will not be able to securely hold the rivets. they will loosen over time and the carbon will collapse around the holes

you will have to reinforce the sole with a plastic sheet, as I did on homemade skates

the True heel is already reinforced with plastic, but the forefoot is not

I took a suitable sheet of plastic about 1.5 mm thick and traced the outline of the front of the sole on it

cut out

cut out for arch supports

I use solid aluminum rivets which are much cheaper than similar copper rivets and are stronger than the semi-hollow steel rivets commonly used by skate manufacturers and do not rust like steel

they do not bite like steel because they have a flat hat

installed holders

This is my second pair of skates that I have installed holders on myself. and only on the second skate of the second pair did I manage to do this not only reliably, but also more or less aesthetically. lol. there is progress, skill is growing

Well, here's what it looks like in the end

it was

so it became

in total they weigh 1086 grams

but it was 1057 grams

the miracle did not happen, but one should take into account the heavy massive buckles and the overall reinforcement of the boot during the repair

I'm not very surprised or upset because I already knew from reviews that custom True skates weigh a lot

homemade skates weighed 987 grams

S29 932 grams

you feel this difference in weight when holding the skates in your hands, but you don’t feel it on your feet on the ice

to be continued...