Vanniek71

2 minutes ago, chile57 said:

Definitely not calling you a dick or even alluding to it. It was more a commentary on the responses. Even though we didn't speak to your initial request - at least we were trying to provide some suitable solutions to overall conundrum instead of acting like super tough, quippy dickheads (behind the comfort and anonymity of our keyboards)... which you know - happens very rarely every so often on the internet. 

Herding cats is a full time job - kudos for the wrangling.

Ok GOTCHA, and yeah that's why I was asking if it sounded like I was being a dick LOL

I do appreciate the suggestions and even if its not what I am looking for, at least I am talking to other goalies about goalie stuff......my wife listens to me with glossed over eyes and has no clue what I am talking about so there's that HAHA

1 hour ago, Vanniek71 said:

The whole point of this post isn’t for suggestions (I appreciate them none the less) it was a request for pictures of Medusa Straps or even Halo shock cord mask straps. I know I can use what’s already been on the mask. I had a failure on a snap, I can just replace the snap too…. But wanted to try something different.

if I’m going to buy anything new, I’ll just buy it and be done with it. The tinkering aspect came in to play because Monster went south and you can’t buy the Medusa straps anymore. Halo has their version, but for some reason Jack won’t respond and I can’t see what his version looks like installed. (Mind you I don’t want to DIY copy his design, I’d just buy them if it looked good)

Wanted to add Jack added some pics for his system on his web page so at least I got to see what they looked like on the mask

27 minutes ago, chile57 said:

We're all poor listeners... 

... but at least we weren't dicks to boot.

Like I said I appreciate the suggestions, just wanted to steer this thread back in the original direction...

If you are saying I am being a dick, then my last post was taken wrong.

I don't want to have to make something myself if I don't have to, if its a solid solution I'd love to buy it and support someones business. I'd like to try something new other than the standard mask straps - if that solution is Solid and Comfortable. But if there isn't anything out there then I am more than glad to DIY it.

19 minutes ago, BadAngle41 said:

 

If black is what you need and you want to tinker... based on the note from @Chenner29 pick up some Pros Choice in cream and dye them black yourself. Best of both worlds... good straps... and you get to make them your own. Could also go full JBo and paint them.

The whole point of this post isn’t for suggestions (I appreciate them none the less) it was a request for pictures of Medusa Straps or even Halo shock cord mask straps. I know I can use what’s already been on the mask. I had a failure on a snap, I can just replace the snap too…. But wanted to try something different.

if I’m going to buy anything new, I’ll just buy it and be done with it. The tinkering aspect came in to play because Monster went south and you can’t buy the Medusa straps anymore. Halo has their version, but for some reason Jack won’t respond and I can’t see what his version looks like installed. (Mind you I don’t want to DIY copy his design, I’d just buy them if it looked good)

2 minutes ago, DL42 said:

those are cord holders used in picture frame holdings  or computer desk.  goto home depot or hareware store andd look them or ask someone

I found some at Home Depot, EZ cable clips look like they will fit the bill at least to start with

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gardner-Bender-1-4-in-Aluminum-EZ-Clips-15-Pack-PAC-1525/100125860

15 minutes ago, chile57 said:

@Vanniek71 if you are only leaning toward creating your own iteration due to prohibitive lead times and would otherwise order them up somewhere - you might try Sara at PAW. I'm not certain she does mask straps but she very well might. I know that she just made up some custom elastic for my pads and I had them in hand within a couple days (nowhere near (4) weeks for sure). Sara's awesome - always super responsive.

Nah I like to tinker, created my own toe tie system so figured may as well crank something out for my mask too. I may very well order some of the outsider straps to have an use and then give myself more time to come up with my own creation. 

And I agree Sara is awesome - she is why I have the materials to make my own items from time to time

6 minutes ago, BadAngle41 said:

@Vanniek71 I haven't used these myself... but Outsider straps won't have a problem with corrosion as they are just the elastic looped through what looks to be jenpro. 

  

https://goalieparts.com/products/the-original-outsider-straps-open-backplate-goalie-mask-replacement-straps-by-wzlhed.html

 

Yep those are the leading candidate, but they are 4 weeks out on black I was intrigued by the shock cord versions too, I can create all my own attachments etc, but figured If I could get a look at what Monster did it would give me a good starting point. 
 

Halo hockey has some shock cord attachment ones too, I asked him if he had any pics of them on a mask - awaiting a response there. 

Just now, bunnyman666 said:

I was under the impression that Monster hockey is no more. From what I recall, there were short J-hooks rather than snaps.

Monster is no more, which is why I am looking for pics. The attachments on the top of the mask look like cage clips and then the sides had J clips. Just want to see how its made, so I can bust out the sewing machine and try my own version.

I'm looking for alternatives to the mask bands that are out there - last night I had a snap that corroded through on a fairly new mask - in a game.... was searching around and see the sewn tab types, the type I have with snaps and Monster's Medusa. Obviously Monster isn't around anymore so I can't go look at their pics.....

Anyone that has the Medusa would you mind sending me some pics of it? Specifically the inside of the backplate attachment pieces and the clips that go on the mask.

Thanks!

15 minutes ago, redrook said:

Those are gorgeous! But just FYI, the Thibault and Lalime moulds are the same. Taken from the Protechsport website:

There are four models

• Roy
• Brodeur
• Belfour (triangular vent holes)
• Theodore (identical to Lalime, Jiggy, Thiabult, Garon, Luongo, Fichaud, Aebischer and Brochu)

There’s a Potvin model too, it’s just not listed :)

Well hell, I am today years old when I found out about this hahah

1 hour ago, Punisher Goalie said:

Yes, that’s a good point. I guess it all depends on the size/elasticity of the cord you’re using. I brought up the skate cuts because when I used a similar diy cord system (attached to the pads, not your quick release) I did indeed have mine get cut during pickup. I started sheathing the cord in waxed lace after that. 

Sheathing it is a good idea, ala Pro Lace armor. Might add that for just in casies!

What’s the beat way to do that? I didn’t know laces were hollow lol

2 hours ago, Punisher Goalie said:

 

Great build. You are obviously a very talented modder! I like the name too.

Only thought/question - is the weaving of the elastic even necessary with this style attachment? Couldn’t you just do a small loop of elastic in the toe hole since you are leaving it permanently attached? Might help avoid and entanglements and it would be less exposed elastic cord to possibly be cut by a skate blade during play.

Just a thought. Either way, well done!

I’m not 100% sure tbh, I haven’t ever tried a short loop.

I do know when the cordage is shorter you don’t get as much stretch as you do with longer cordage. I’ve found the way I have it now allows for less tension when the cord stretches because there is more to allow that stretch along the length than if the cord was shorter.

Ive never had an issue with skate cuts in the cords, the only time I’ve had to replace one is because my dog chewed one in half LOL

8 minutes ago, beansbats said:

Nice job!  Let us know how it goes when you get them on the ice.  How did you attach the cord to the skate at the back end?  I might have to try making a set of these.

-steve 

They work great, I've used a variation of this before:

I just took everything I that didn't work quite right for me and came up with this new set. You can see in that last post how the cords are attached to the skate, but I'm not sure I like just having those attaching it. Going to work on something to attach it better to the skate, thinking about integrating the Lundy loop that comes on skates now for that purpose.

Here is the first version of mine, got to use it once then blew out both my MCL's, came back and used it one more time and 'Rona shut the skates down. Will be giving it a go Sunday and Monday again to see if I need to adjust it, but I have liked it so far.

I have had various sets of bungee toe ties throughout the years and liked certain aspects of all of them. I decided I was going to combine those aspects and make something faster and more reliable for myself. None of the ideas I used were invented by me, but I combined them all to make something I haven't seen/tried before. I did this in the past and really liked how it performed, but it needed improvements. Now this version has all the improvements except one I am still thinking about how to achieve.

The reason I revisited this style (was using Pro laces and really like them) is to save a few minutes of time, no more weaving the bungees through my skates. With the 'Rona raging about we are only allowed in the rink 15 mins before the skate, so saving as much time as possible is now a thing (I used to show up a minimum of an hour early to stretch, warm up, do visual training etc.). Also I upgraded to some V9 pads and Pro Laces won't easily go on there without a new toe bridge anyways!

Concept:

The bridge is a tab style attachment that mounts to the pad in place of the stock toe bridge

The bungees stay on the skate permanently and interfaces with the pad via a tab. No removal needed

That way when I put my pads on, I don't have to lace the bungees through my skates each time, I simply insert the tab in to the toe bridge and squeeze it together and I'm good to go.

Pics:

Stock V9 bridges - oddest bridges I have ever seen on a pad

New "tab" style bridges - This pic was before I punched the mounting holes through them

Mounted to the pad - just reuse the stock T nuts and hardware

Open and ready to accept the skate "tab"

Skate tabs

Attached to the pad - excuse the crooked sewing being a concept and all, I just wanted functionality. Once I hash it all out, I'll make a "betterer" set lol

How it all interfaces together

23 minutes ago, redrook said:

Just received my Protechsport from Michel yesterday, ordered and paid on 26 April last year but my mold only arrived with him 4th June. Thankfully I've had no hockey going on so it has made no real difference. Overall I am extremely happy with the result. I mean, it's a Michel Doganieri mask after all! 

I went for full kevlar and the Theodore mold, which as his website says is the same as the Lalime, Jiggy, Denis, Thibault, Garon, Luongo, Fichaud, Aebischer and Brochu. I've noticed some confusion about this on here. I'd put any variances down to adjusting the mold to the individual head mold.

Rubatex foam and chin sling. I also asked for Lefebrvre style cage clips and foam, which he hasn't done unfortunately.

I also had a huge problem with the painter (which Michel was pissed off about too). Basically the guy didn't get in touch despite me repeatedly asking him to in order to discuss my design. Never discussed the design with me, just cracked on and didn't listen. Only got in touch when he was in the middle of the job, and still didn't do specific things I asked for. I rejected the work because it was nothing like what I asked for, and it was really poor quality. It went back to Michel and he put it back to white for me for free. He was very sympathetic about this and angry at the painter. Unfortunately I still need to pay something for the crap work as the painter charged Michel to get the mask back, and of course I will pay Michel.

So overall a bit of a mixed experience. Really good communication from Michel, but let down by some details missing and the experience with the painter (which wasn't Michel's fault at all).

For the price and the quality I would definitely order from him again though.

Nice looking mask! Sucks about the painter though

18 minutes ago, Cool Runnings said:

Jeez what a dummy, okay thanks guys sorry.  

No worries man, if you don't know you don't know!

3 minutes ago, Cool Runnings said:

OTNY Sports Group SPORTMASK 

I think Protechsport led me to them.

That's a different company entirely from Protechsport or Pro's Choice. 

Here is the info you will want:

https://sites.google.com/site/protechsportinc1/english_1/the-company (Website)

protechsport @ gmail.com (Contact email)

4 minutes ago, Cool Runnings said:

So Maybe I emailed the wrong manufacturer...but I got a quote for that Potvin/Harrison custom mold from PS and it wasn't even in the same ballpark as the Shark.  To the tune of +$1,700 more than the Shark.  Did I miss something?  Seems like I have my decision made I guess.  

Who did you contact? And where are you located? Sounds like you emailed Pro's Choice and not Michel at Protechsport

How do you get ahold of Aumais? I need to get something in the works.

4 minutes ago, Cool Runnings said:

Thank you all, great response detail! 

Anything to help feed the addiction lol

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So If I'm buying just one, should I go with the Shark 954, or the Potvin Mold PS?

I guess that depends. New Image is a good mask, but the fit of the cage isn't as nice as id like, and the vision out of mine was restricted a bit so I had to modify it. I traded in an old mask so got $150 off the mask price so went with a Shark at the time. Again good mask. PS has been in the NHL and on pros heads for years and Micehl is a master at what he does. Financially I can buy another mask, and I have the time to wait for it. That's all up to you though. Do you have time? The price for a custom mask from PS is outstanding for what you get (Thanks exchange rate!)

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Also, what are the price differences?

If you are meaning between the Shark and the PS.... contact them and get a quote, it could be different. For example I traded in an old mask when I got my Shark so I paid less in cash for the mask.

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And can someone explain the strap choices?  I want a chin sling, but I mean the back hidden/vs no hidden?  I have an Eddy - Harrison replica and I just want the same thing.  What do I ask for? 

Motown goalie posted a perfect pic of hidden strap backplate. It just uses a minimalist approach to the strapping, and I prefer that look. Fit and function feel about the same to me, but some prefer the full strapping on the backplate. 

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It'd be nice to get the cage already in White if that's an option for either maker as well.

I think they both can get you a white cage. I may at some point go with a white cage as well, but the last one I had the powdercoat was terrible and was chipping and falling off, so switched to the stainless look

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Side Note: I've been told that wrapping doesn't need clear coating.

I didn't have my wrap cleared, but I also did a DIY one and plan on changing it up. Not sure on the pros and cons of clear coating over a wrap

1 hour ago, SaveByRichter35 said:

It was a lust buy for me as well at the time.  Since getting Harrison shell Protechsport I've used it more than my Pro's Choice lol.  There are a few factors for that reason though, its not only because I like it better.

Well you can’t say that and then not elaborate lol

1 hour ago, SaveByRichter35 said:

Nice.  Only differences I have are chin sling and I went with a standard harness since I ended up making my own outsider straps.  Good choice on the full Kevlar, I love mine.  Smart to get a second cage too, I wish I thought of that.  Its inevitable that its going to get dented and need to be replaced.  At least you avoid any downtime you'd have waiting for a new one to ship.  What did he quote you on wait time?

His site says 35 weeks currently. He said the timer starts when he gets the mold or payment, whichever gets there first. I’ve got a pretty new Shark 954 so not in a hurry. This was purely a lust and impulse buy, but I’m sure this will become my main mask once I have it.

My plaster wraps come tomorrow

I think I will ask for a sling as well. May as well try it out.