ser33 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) Hello. Boosting my Bauer s170 c / a worked well, but sometimes shooters came across that sting. Therefore, it was decided to replace it with something more protective. Totalone NXG was bought quite by accident and turned out to be Victor Fasth's proreturne. The unit had minor damage that required attention, but was generally in working order. Edited December 9, 2020 by ser33 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ser33 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) The chest was in excellent condition except for the stretched elastic straps and a tear on one of the shoulder floats Edited December 7, 2020 by ser33 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ser33 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) Which were eliminated in the first place, which allowed me to quickly test the unit on ice by attaching arms from my S170 Increased rib protection was also installed. Edited December 7, 2020 by ser33 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ser33 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) On the c / a, there was completely no shoulder protection, which was made by me again Edited December 7, 2020 by ser33 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ser33 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) Few have seen the professional chest Bauer from this angle, so I show you what's inside. It is made of two layers of hard and soft foam for unrivaled mobility and protection. Edited December 7, 2020 by ser33 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ser33 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) Hands demanded special attention. One of which had a material break. But the main problem was that I was 190 cm tall and I was wearing XL, and this unit was in size L. And if the chest fit perfectly, then the arms had to be lengthened The photo below shows a hand protection sandwich. 4mm yellow medium density foam that looks more like rubber, then hard plastic, then black high density foam and a double layer of soft foam about 1/2 inch Edited December 7, 2020 by ser33 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math. Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) @ser33 man, that's what you call "In general working condition"?! Those arms look thrashed. Tell me you took a knife to it before taking the pictures! Edited December 7, 2020 by Math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ser33 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Math. said: @ser33 man, that's what you call "In general working condition"?! Those arms look thrashed. Tell me you took a knife to it before taking the pictures! no (laughs). So he was bought for $ 30. The knife was used later, which I will tell you about later))the foams on the inside of the hands are almost unbreakable and the nylon on the outside is easy to repair Edited December 7, 2020 by ser33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdeFIN Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) You sure have quite a job to do to achieve all the goals. But it is doable yes That yellow foam probably is Poron XRD which Bauer uses quite a lot on pro level gear. It's a little different from D3O, not getting that hard from impact. But idea is the same, absorb the impact energy. I'd rather use XRD under/behind the plastic layer but I'm not the guy behind this design. (If it even is XRD...) Edited December 8, 2020 by ArdeFIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ser33 Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, ArdeFIN said: You sure have quite a job to do to achieve all the goals. But it is doable yes That yellow foam probably is Poron XRD which Bauer uses quite a lot on pro level gear. It's a little different from D3O, not getting that hard from impact. But idea is the same, absorb the impact energy. I'd rather use XRD under/behind the plastic layer but I'm not the guy behind this design. (If it even is XRD...) Yes. this is it I wrote to you in your topic about the use of foam layers based, just on the knowledge of the device of my Bauer. In addition to protective functions, manufacturers are also trying to control the rebound. The low density foam outer layer design significantly reduces rebound compared to the high density foam or plastic outer layer. Even Brown has a soft outer layer on his chest resonator. For Bauer, this use makes it possible to leave a very thin outer layer of protection that does not exceed 4-5 mm in thickness, which significantly reduces the overall weight of the unit. For comparison, Reebok P1, made according to the classical technology of individual blocks, has a high density outer foam thickness of 8-10 mm. Edited December 9, 2020 by ser33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ser33 Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) The next point that required attention was the protection of the elbow bend. Some kind person cut off parts of the defense in a completely barbaric way. The missing elements were made from nylon and sewn to the protection The next step was the restoration of the protective liner. Parts were cut out of plastic and pasted over with low density foam. Instead of a nylon strap that attaches the protection to the arm, an elastic strap was sewn, which will allow it to fit more tightly and at the same time move freely. Then all the pieces were sewn together Edited December 17, 2020 by ser33 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ser33 Posted December 25, 2020 Author Share Posted December 25, 2020 (edited) The final stage was the restoration of hands, the material of which had explosions Which have been eliminated with ordinary reinforced tape inside The worn elastic straps were also replaced and a new elastic strap was installed instead of the genpro wrist strap Another important challenge was to increase the length of the arm, which was not enough for me. For this, nylon and mesh were added to the material, and the protective foam was increased. The arm flexion "mechanism" has also been changed to improve mobility. Basically, on all units, the flexion of the arm at the elbow is ensured by the absence of protective foam in the fold, where only empty tissue remains. At the same time, both parts of the arms are sewn together not only in the front, but also in the side parts, which, when bent, still limits the arm and makes its length change. And also, add extra protection to the bend of the elbow. To avoid this, I built up the protective foam directly to the seam connecting both sides of the arm and sewed them only in the front. Then all the parts were put together. This mod gave a significant increase in hand mobility Instead of the original plastic elbow cups, which were heavy and small, the S170 elbow cups were installed, which are completely foam and are larger The total weight of the unit, taking into account its increased protection, is 5.142 lbs. Edited December 25, 2020 by ser33 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ser33 Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 almost two years have passed since the device was repaired and put on the ice. and since then it has been my favorite C/A. light, mobile, cool and impenetrable like a tank. almost impenetrable. in the last two ices, I received a couple of very painful injections from high-level players (former juniors) in the collarbone and chest area. without injuries and even bruises, but it was quite painful. I carefully examined the device to find and eliminate the cause. the cause of the collarbone injection was in plain sight and consisted of several factors. firstly, structurally, this area is not covered with HD foam or plastic / in the photo below it can be seen between the throat, chest plate and fin I took the old Bauer neck protector which I wanted to restore earlier, but my whole experience with using such protections is not very positive, so I abandoned them a long time ago. took it apart inserted under the chest plate C / A and sewn to it "ears" stuck out a lot and even rested against the shoulder cup, so they were cut off the second reason was that the elastics on the device had come to an end. they were fully stretched and the device just hung down, exposing part of the body. so they were replaced now the clavicle area that was previously open has additional protection, as well as the sternum area 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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