CJ Boiss

6 minutes ago, Chenner29 said:

Nah man

Zipper leg channels

Magnets.

I'd also like to see a puck impacting those wires in super slow-motion, to see how much they bend before deflecting it away.

Just now, ThatCarGuy said:

Funny part is the holes are smaller than a cat eye 

It's not that, it's the wires under tension. Already pointed out by Zero, a wire that snaps could whip our face, and we have no real way to gauge when to replace it.

The other thing is that when it fails whatever caused that failure is going to be coming straight into our face. A puck that hits a standard cage and bends a bar will still deflect away from our face, 99% of the time; the only exception I know of is when it bends two bars at the "eye", and wedges itself in there. But those wires? Nah. I'll stick with a standard cage, thanks.

Not a chance in hell I would trust my eyes to that.

2 hours ago, Chenner29 said:

We joked about it, but apparently Kuemper really did play almost half blind 

“In goal, Darcy Kuemper, who suffered an eye injury in the second round against St. Louis, had to go to an optometrist multiple times a day in order to "re-train his eye", according to head coach Jared Bednar.”

Dude had a Sv% above .900 without any depth perception. Fuckin' wild.

35 minutes ago, Chenner29 said:

You can also try Guardian Angel Cages on Facebook.  I think the dude's name is Marco Garon?

Yup. I got a cage from him, and his customer service was second to none.

20 minutes ago, Hockeygoalie111 said:

The Konekt will be an interesting release for sure.  Curious to see if this becomes an industry standard or if it goes the way of "MyFlex" Bauer pads. 

It'll all depend on how long the hinge mechanism holds up. NHLers may be OK to go through multiple pairs of skates in a season, but Average Joe can't be dropping $1100 on custom skates every eight months.

4 hours ago, MadsM said:

Thanks, do you know if the e+ is like a thing between sr and pro?

Warrior's latest gear lines have 4 models: E, E+, Pro, and Pro+.

16 minutes ago, seagoal said:

Lucic making friends 

 

Smith was such an idiot on that play.

"Ah, yes, let my try to spin-o-rama deke a rushing Milan Lucic behind the net, famously the best spot for a goalie to try and dangle a man as wide as a barn door."

2 hours ago, netminder said:

I did, but i also said you cant quantify that fact its good enough for NHL tenders on the daily since it has not been used league wide for several decades in a row like every other brand has.

If it's good enough for the pro goalies in the Euro leagues, it's good enough for the goalies in the NHL. Just because the skill level in the Euro leagues is lower than in the NHL doesn't mean the goalie equipment faces less abuse.

2 hours ago, netminder said:

Its a small sample, like microscopic. Maybe why they came and went, its not made for regular Pro use on the daily.  Either way, I do really like the new G6. I have seen it all in person and appreciate its different perfomance enhancements.

See what @CamWardFan said: Warrior pads aren't used in the NHL because they don't want to pay the licensing fee, not because the gear is lower quality or "not good enough" for the NHL pros.

1 hour ago, netminder said:

He has been suspended for running a goalie actually, but it was at least 8 or 9 years ago. Kadri, making no attempt to slow down, lowered his shoulder and leaned into Rosen - causing Rosen to crash into Binnington prob wont get suspended, but intent was present.

Intent to play the loose puck, sure. Going hard to the net doesn't qualify as "intent to run the goalie and hurt him".

33 minutes ago, netminder said:

Why does it make him a pussy though? This is 2022 not 1994 bud. Violence on violence is your answer to everything? I bet you've been single for a long time. I respect the hell out of someone who shows restraint. Winnington is out for the rest of these playoffs because of known repeat offending cheap shot artist doing his thing yet again. If a thrown water bottle triggers you this much, i'd say your're a few notches below Winningtons tempermant here unfortunately.

Kadri doesn't have a history of running goalies, and he didn't do anything wrong on that play. Binnington's own defenceman rode him in.

On 5/16/2022 at 12:34 PM, ZeroGravitas said:

Per the CCM Goalie Instagram Story...

These pictures make me think of kites. Especially the red/white/blue.

3 minutes ago, WillyGrips13 said:

Yeah, I’ve heard that counter argument before. Five players all staring at the puck with they’re sticks in the air and having no idea where anyone other than the puck carrier is has nothing to do with speed. I’m referring mainly to plays not on the rush, but when a team has possession in the offensive zone. It’s too much “puck focus” and no head on a swivel. 

You must be watching different games than I am, because I don't see much of that.

The game is way, way faster than it used to be, and that makes it much harder to defend.

1 hour ago, WillyGrips13 said:

It’s amazing how so many of these series are extending to 6 and 7 games. Leads are not safe. The game of hockey today is offensively-minded, it has exceptional goaltending, but with chaotic defending often looking hapless. As exciting as it is, it is a shame how poor the defending can be. So much puck watching, leaving men open in dangerous areas, deflecting pucks past their own goalie, screening their own goalie, and being careless with the puck in their own zone. All players are skilled, but kind of dumb in their own zone. 

I think it's less that the defense is careless or poor and more that the offense is much more dynamic and fast than it used to be.

5 minutes ago, ilyazhito said:

I agree. There's crazy (normal by goalie standards) and there's totally off your rocker a la Gilles Gratton. You would have to be that level of kookoo to face MacInnis without a helmet. If I'm not mistaken, his shot was hard enough that it broke a goalie's cup, in warmups. Imagine that shot to your head. 

He broke a goalie's mask during a game (and scored on the play, because the puck bounced into the net).

Why the fuck would any goalie have gone helmetless when MacInnis was in the league?

1 hour ago, TheGoalNet said:

At a high level, and with having some direct access to helmet designers in multiple industries, heavier helmets are better at absorbing impact.

@Chenner29 This is not proper science, but I know you have  PC mask. Is it the 960-esq one? If so, what does it weigh? I will weight my 960 and VTX too. 

Also to your point about shell shape, the PC / Vaughn model is the 960 style and not the Mrazek style. So that's another mask in the spirit of the Wright family tree that performed well... But CCM and VTX are aggressive are didn't perform as well, so to me it comes back to...

Weight & Padding thickness probably are the biggest factors to tests like these.

Weight = Absorbtion

Padding thickness = braking distance

Just to add on and note why mask weight seems to make such an impact.

Google says the average human head weighs ~11lbs. The difference between 2.5 and 3.5 lbs of helmet weight is significant; adding ~22% more mass vs adding ~32% more mass, and the 3.5lb mask is a full 40% heavier than the 2.5lb mask.

When we're usually getting hit in the head by 6oz pucks, that extra lb of helmet weight should do a lot to reduce how much our head moves on a flat impact.

Padding thickness should also work better with a stiffer shell (less deformation of the shell means a more even spread of energy throughout the foam, and less energy transfer from impacts overall), at least so far as puck impacts are concerned. (though the trade-off between stiffness and weight seems to be an open question)

I think the shape of the shell matters far less than the thickness of the padding, the weight, and the stiffness

I assume we can expect similar levels of performance from Coveted models that weren't specifically tested here?

14 hours ago, coopaloop1234 said:

Don't be disrespecting your elders kiddo. 

It's funny because the Sith's Rule of Two ethos is explicitly about disrespecting your elders (by killing them so you can take their place).

2 hours ago, A.YOUNGoalie13 said:

Do I loosen at the top or the bottom for better rotation? (As in at the knee or closer to the ankle)

I would gradually loosen the entire leg channel bit by bit, until either the the pad is rotating the way you want, or you identify precisely where the most friction is. Do some butterflies, some crease movements and really focus on how the pad feels when it rotates around your leg. Take some time at the start or end of practice, make some adjustments, and then immediately test them.

14 hours ago, A.YOUNGoalie13 said:

On my new pads I’m running the bauer prof strap tight, knee to knee strap at the top, and tight upper and lower calf outer straps. No boot strap and I have 8 knots on my toe ties but my pad still rotates when I go down but its not coming all the way back. I want my pads as tight as possible so do I add more knots or loosen something?

The tighter you make the leg channel, the more friction the pad experiences when it tries to rotate. This isn't an issue when you butterfly, because the shape of the pad, the force of your body, and the contact with the ice all combine to rotate the pad around your leg. But when you lift your legs up, the only thing acting to re-center the pad on your leg is gravity.

If you want the pad to rotate back when your leg lifts up, I'd suggest loosening the calf straps, and maybe the professor strap as well.

10 hours ago, TheGoalNet said:

I have had vertexx edge since day 1 and never had a pop out. I understand it happens, but I think that is honestly a 3% situation? I have well over 200 skates on Vertexx holders and never had a pop out

Think about all the NHL guys that use it. I feel like the goalie steel pop out happens 20 times a season total in the league? There are over 1,200 games played in the NHL every year. Probably 600 or more of those games feature a Vertexx edge. As you can see, worse case scenario... It works correctly 92% of the time

600	Games Played Featuring Vertexx Edge
2	Holders per game
1200	Holders used a game situation a season
50	Blade pop outs
4.17%	Failure rate
600	Games Played Featuring Vertexx Edge
2	Holders per game
1200	Holders used a game situation a season
20	Blade pop outs
1.67%	Failure rate
600	Games Played Featuring Vertexx Edge
2	Holders per game
1200	Holders used a game situation a season
100	Blade pop outs
8.33%	Failure rate

You mention above the puck hitting the blade squarely... can you explain that differently? Is that a common situation?

"Squarely" as in "the puck directly hits the unsharpened toe of the blade".

And I guess I just don't think any chance of this kind of blade/runner failure is acceptable, when there are runner designs which also allow you to quickly exchange blades that don't experience the same problem. It's a shoddy design, plain and simple, and it's long past time Bauer changed it.

55 minutes ago, maxtm30 said:

 

You guys are aware of the force an NHLer shot has compared to us mortals?

 

I am, yeah, but Beer League Joe still took my blades off several times. It's not just about the speed of the shot, but how much force transfers into the blade, and into the retention mechanism.

Simple fact is that the retention mechanism is designed badly. The blade popping out when a puck hits it shouldn't even be a possibility, no matter how hard the shot is.