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On 8/15/2023 at 6:45 PM, A.YOUNGoalie13 said:

As someone who also just switched from a life long 590 guy for the most part, my biggest adjustment has been finding the pocket. I’m very used to where the pocket of a 590 sits in my stance and butterfly, so I’ve been taking a lot of shots to the fingers and palm on the Vapor 90. For sure something you have to get used to with time since the pocket is so high up.

This is exactly what I experienced with my eflex 6 581. I had 3 ice teams this past week though, and by the 3rd night I was feeling much more comfortable and confident. Just takes time and reps. And when you start hitting the pocket consistently it feels very sweet. 

12 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said:

Pretty sure we're just a handsome collection of retards. 

Who said anything about handsome? 

Just now, TheGoalNet said:

I don't work with True corporate like I do Bauer or CCM. I have a friend in the Montreal factory for my True connection and that's how I get my demo set.

So maybe is working with it? But from what I know, he is NOT getting free stuff from Bauer or CCM. Last I knew, he worked at a shop for the employee discount and leveraged that to acquire gear.

This is a long standing goalie resource/message board that has a good reputation and warrants company cooperation, has members that provide valuable reviews & feedback, and is run well. Any corporate cooperation or relationships you have makes sense and has been earned.

Him, not so much.

17 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said:

For anyone wondering... this is some old stuff, haha

Initially, anyone who volunteered to be a mod and offered a skill set which I did not have, was "hired" (it's a volunteer thing).

HR (Hills) and I generally had different view points. He got frustrated I always picked my own path instead of his suggestions. Two sides to every story? He probably felt I was stubborn and didn't value his input.

He wanted a poster banned, the poster in question had some offline conversations with me, and I wanted to give him another chance. I asked Hills to take the time to discuss this situation with me on the phone and also review revamping the mods role. He said he didn't want to talk me, I said it didn't make sense he was a mod anymore, and he started his own content creation after that.  

 

I think your decision to not value his input was a good one.

15 minutes ago, mr_shifty1982 said:

Both of us my guy, can't stand him. Had enough run ins with him. 

Please include me in this as well.

Gotta say it's nice to hear confirmation I'm not the only one who can't stand him or think it's outrageous that he posts his God awful in game play. Major, major cringe factor. He is ABOSULTELY in it for the free gear, there's zero doubt about that. The fact that True seems to have made a custom set for him just boggles the mind.

11 minutes ago, Madmedic6 said:

I might have to start a channel . Definitely going to do a write up on ef6 vs px3 pads when lever my true order actually gets in. 

I would definitely watch this comparison video! I had actually bought both the ef6's and a pair of 9x3's to compare at home and then returned the 9x3's. Way stiffer than I expected, and I wasn't a fan of the short boot, if that makes sense. Also, was underwhelmed by the frs strapping system. BUT...very nice pads. Quality seemed top notch and I liked the nylon strap behind the knee. It was definitely a tough choice. Will be interested to see what you think of the px3's after skating with them.

9 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said:

Dembones and Goalie Crease Guardian are both great channels. Go figure they're both EBUG's. 

 

Hadn't heard of Goalie Crease Guardian....will check him out. 

4 minutes ago, jerd31 said:

Not gonna speak to Trav or his reviews but it’s tough watching hockeyreviews game footage, he just slides back and forth unnecessarily 

Yeah I just can't handle it. It's really not good. And then has the audacity to throw his teammates under the bus and pump his own tires. I find it all pretty embarrassing (for him). 

Trav can be hard to watch as well...I'm pretty sure he's more interested in producing content than playing "pro hockey" as he relentlessly likes to remind people, but at least he can play at a high level. I think?

Honestly the online goalie content, whether that's product review, on ice content, etc., is really lacking. I like that Bonesy guy - he just seems like a genuinely nice person and is legit. And I enjoy the InGoal content as well. Futureprogoaltending is good too.

21 minutes ago, ThatCarGuy said:

I think he's on the right track he just tends to over exaggerate and be a bit soft

This is generous and tactful. I admire your civility.

7 minutes ago, Madmedic6 said:

I have about 3 weeks at 2-4 times a week in it. I will say. My pro palm has been well padded, compared to what hockeyreviews posted. I purposely took palm shots in warmups the other day to test the protection. 

I've seen his reviews on this gear, and watched some of his other stuff as well. I would just say that my experiences do not match up with his, and generally speaking I don't put a lot of stock in what he says, or support some of his testing methods. I'll leave it at that.

12 minutes ago, Madmedic6 said:

I mean it's unfortunate to spend the $$$ to try something new and not like it. But that's part of the retail game. I am fortunate enough to have a part time job at a store to get discount. But the replacement glove is full price. 

Nice. Those employee discounts must be pretty sweet and come in handy. Maybe I should think about getting a part time job as well 

Yeah, you're always taking a risk with a new design, which sort of appealed to me. There's things about it I really like and I haven't used it enough yet to personally render a final verdict, and like I said yesterday was a huge improvement. It may work for me, we'll see. Have you officially given up on it? How much ice time did you have with the 581?

3 minutes ago, Madmedic6 said:

Unfortunately no, cross form strap is only for 591/581. Regular break gloves get regular back hand strapping. Hopefully they will change that in the axis (stiff) line next year. 

That is definitely unfortunate, but good to know. I'll admit I've opened up the customizer a couple of times and thought about ordering a 590 break. Not quite there yet though. 

19 minutes ago, Madmedic6 said:

I myself am very pleased with the pads and the blocker. I went with loose fit and qk5 straps on the pads rather than the elastic only straps. Loose fit in the blocker is a nice touch as well. Only thing I don't like is the 581. If it's off angle even the slightest it will rocket off the face of the the glove. Patiently waiting for my ccm 580 to come in, just wish I could get the cross form strap on it. 

I had my second skate with the 581 last night and it did feel significantly better and more natural than night 1 so I haven't given up on it quite yet. I haven't had any of the issues that some others have had regarding closure and break in period and I really like the strapping system, especially the cross from strap, like you say. Very comfortable. If you order a custom 580, that's not an option? I hear you on the off angle stuff. Like I said, much better second time using it so I may get used to it, but it's a little finicky.

And agree re: pads and blocker. I just have the standard strapping and fit, but I wear them pretty loose as well and they feel great.

I had my first skate last night in my new set. It was outrageously hot in the arena and the ice was freshly put in and extremely soft. Apparently their dehumidifier system wasn't working either, so if anyone watched the Hlinka/Gretzky tournament a few weeks ago that's probably a good comparable for the arena conditions (but definitely not the quality of play, haha).

Pads:  Felt really comfortable right from the beginning. No issues sliding, even with the terrible ice conditions. And when the ice was fresh they were lightning fast, at least relative to what I'm used to. In terms of fit and performance they actually felt like a stiff version of my v7's. Not a radical shift from what I was used to. Pads rotated great every time, and those knee blocks felt rock solid. Rebounds were a lot punchier than my velocity's. Strapping system is great.

Blocker:  Awesome. Great pop for rebounds, very comfortable a and lightweight. No complaints.

Glove:  Coming from a Vaughn V9 xp (590 break) was a HUGE adjustment and more than I anticipated. On the first few shots I was literally full on whiffing on pucks going underneath my glove because my brain was still falling back to where I'm used to the pocket being in space relative to my hand position, and the overall angle of the glove. It was better by the end of the skate, and thankfully I have a couple more ice times this week to re-program my brain. My glove history is Vaughn Legacy T1050 (my one true love), Koho 590, Vaughn V9 xp and now the 581.

Anyone else have a similar path that ended in a 580 style break? And how did you find the adjustment? Thanks.

9 minutes ago, ilyazhito said:

I've been looking for full right gloves on SidelineSwap, but there are far fewer full right gloves available than regular gloves. I know that there are Facebook groups for full right goalies, but it is rare to find senior-sized full right gloves there in new (or even like-new) condition.

 

Is there a good resource I could use to find full right gloves without spending ridiculous amounts? I'm still using the gloves I got from @bunnyman666, but I feel stingers when I play above Lower D. I've been thinking about upgrading my trapper, and I'm looking for budget options with good protection. The rink I work at has CCM full right gloves by Lefebvre, but the closure is garbage. They won't be worth the employee discount ;(. 

Not sure if this interests you, but I have a full right velocity V9 senior glove and V8 blocker available. Used for 1.5 seasons and in really good condition, very well cared for. Never had any issues with stingers. If you're interested let me know! Just looking for a good home for them. Haven't posted them anywhere yet. 

Apologies if these are already out there, but I just noticed on CCM'S website that product videos by Kaylie Dankevy are now up for the ef6 glove and blocker. Also saw on CCM Goalies IG that tomorrow they'll be starting something called the "Eflex6 tech series". The marketing machine is really ramping up it seems. 

45 minutes ago, Madmedic6 said:

How are you liking the 581?

Well, I only received it yesterday afternoon so these are extremely early impressions, haha. I've had it baked, have been working it a lot while sitting around, tied it shut, stretched it open, and had my nephew shoot a hockey ball at me in the basement. That's been the extent of my testing. 

BUT, even after that short period it's getting way more comfortable and worked in, and it opens and closes just fine. Some of the reviews and comments I've seen online are way over the top in terms of what an unusable glove this is, doesn't open or close properly, has zero palm protection etc. That simply hasn't been my experience. Everybody's experiences are valid and we all have our preferences but personally I'm optimistic about it. Again, I've had it for literally one day but so far I'm pleasantly surprised

18 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said:

It's ok, @A.YOUNGoalie13 will come here trying to push his 80lbs of muscle around and tell everyone how much better being a Southpaw is in your defense. 

He's wrong, but at least you'll have a rabid defender. 

We know we're special. And thankfully it doesn't take much to throw off bone head forwards. That is, if they even bother to take a break from having their head's down and actually look at the target. 

6 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said:

I think the whole southpaw thing is worse.  

I'm ready for that criticism as well. Nothing new there.

Come at me with your all white gear criticisms. I'm ready

22 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said:

what were the key features of EF6 that had you pick it over Vaughn? What pads are you coming out of?

 

V7 xf pro carbon, and prior to that V3 pro carbon. So I've always used softer pads, but as my style has evolved I've wanted to move into something stiffer. The Eflex has always been a set I had my eye on because it seemed like a good progression from where I was - a stiffer, more modern pad but not too stiff so as to make it a difficult adjustment coming from my Vaughns. I also ordered a set of 9x3's and Axis 2's, but the Trues felt too stiff and tbh I didn't like the strapping (FRS). I've always had my Vaughn's strapped really loose and the FRS system felt too restrictive and tight. The Axis set was nice, but the QMSS2 strap was too tight and too short (it seems CCM realized that and changed it for the Eflex6). So I returned both of those and went with the Eflex set which I'm really happy with. Stiffer than the Eflex5's, strapping system feels very comfortable, and they're incredibly light. Then of course I had to order a new matching set of gloves, haha. Those are arriving tomorrow. I know that glove will be a transition but I liked it a lot in the store - it fit my hand really well.

I know that V10's are apparently an actual evolution of the Velocity line and supposed to be more stiff, but honestly stock is hard to find, and they're materially more expensive. So I decided to move away from Vaughn. The manager at Pro Hockey Life said that Vaughn is so far behind in fulfilling their orders that they're considering no longer ordering from them. 

I did a lot of research prior to buying my eflex 6 set (lifelong Vaughn user), and it was pretty incredible to see how split people are on the whole CCM speedskin/weave/, and just in general "do these pads suck at sliding" debate! I haven't been able to get them out on the ice yet but at this point I just can't wait to try that first butterfly slide 

5 hours ago, TheGoalNet said:

@froese the loops get the 5X1 glove design from odd to usable IMO. 591 pre-loops was just awkward. Now it just comes to down if you like it or not? It's very mechanical hinge like closure compared to a baseball glove feel from the rest of the market?

@TheGoalNet I know that wearing it in the store isn't exactly game play, but I liked the feel of the glove and how they've implemented the finger loops. It felt like a good balance between freedom for your fingers while still giving you an anchor for your thumb and pinky finger. Definitely stiff though, that's for sure. My set is arriving in a couple days.

4 hours ago, Madmedic6 said:

I have played with the straps and it's betting somewhat better. I guess I'm just use to the flat palm of my true. The face of the 581 is much flatter in the thumb. I'm still working on how I want to hold the glove as most of the glove shots have been off the steep face on reactive rebounds and pop out. 

The unique strapping system is definitely one of the things that appealed to me, as did the compromise of finger stalls/no finger stalls. I've never used a True 580, or any 580 for that matter but I'm sure I'll have my own adjustment issues coming from Vaughn.