Punisher Goalie

5 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said:

1. I can definitely see how a removable/replaceable liner would be beneficial to you. 

2. lol wtf. I've had some liners that have seen wear and tear after 4+ years. But nothing close to needing replacement. Do you just sweat pure acid? 

I'll put it this way. I've been married for 13 years and never once been allowed to bring skates, or any other hockey equipment for that matter, into the house.

Just now, coopaloop1234 said:

By your liner wearing out, are you referring to the insole? Or the actual inside of your skates are wearing out in under a year? 

Which leads me to my next question, how often do you need to get new skates? 

Both. Insoles obviously I know I can - and do - change.

It is, admittedly, quite gross. Even with drying after every session with a boot dryer, I am buying skates once a year. I've been stretching my custom FT2s too long waiting for the Konekt release.

IDK I could be wrong, but if the shell and holder are durable enough, one might be able to get away with a liner change to extend the life of the skates well beyond what one would expect from a normal skate design.

44 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said:

I'd have to replace my laces 50 times to break even. I don't even think I've replaced my laces more than 15 times in the past decade.

Though how cool would it be to show up to a public skate rocking $1300 rental look-a-likes.  

 

  

What steel comes with it stock? 

Don't forget your own time, sir. All that time saved tying skates really adds up. Not to mention less wear and tear on my delicate hands. 

Jokes aside, the price is very high, but this is an insta-buy for me. I am also factoring in what I hope will be increased longevity because I assume we will be able to buy replacement liner if it breaks down. I don't wear socks and I am lucky to get 6-8 months out of a pair of skates before the liners turn to dust. 

2 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said:

$1,225 CAD. A whopping $300 more expensive than an Ultrasonic skate. 

I get that this is a new build and there's some R&D to recoup, and that the main consumer market is either guys at the top level and/or guys wanting the best of the best, but wow that's steep.

You are forgetting how much you will save never buying laces again!

Great idea. I'm going to try this on my Ultrasonics too. I also have been using the CRS strap as high and tight as I can get it on my calf, but find that sometimes it slips out of place. This could work as a fix while maintaining the same connected feel at that point I'm looking for. 

On 5/29/2022 at 2:24 PM, ArdeFIN said:

I continue to wonder how these behind knee straps can work when you drop down to butterfly. You have the outer connection point at about where I would imagine your thigh to be located. With original elastic strap there is, well, elasticity but with this mod you don't have that either to help. 

Not saying this to attack you Punisher Goalie but more in general. And I'm not telling it absolutely cannot work, just wondering how it can work out.

I might even try it myself but for some reason I don't own any pads with outer knee flap. 

Yeah, no worries this is a personal preference thing. I really couldn't explain the science of it, I just know that I prefer the feel of a rigid strap behind the knee over elastic. As I mentioned, this is coming from Ritual pads which have had an integrated elastic and rigid webbing strap at the knee going back at least to the G3 line. 

I don't wear it tight to the back of the knee though. I have a tight toe with the ProLaces, medium tightness to the calf with the TuneFit strap, and the loose strap behind the knee. While I can't say for sure, I think the strap behind the knee basically serves as an emergency stop to keep my knee from coming off the block in a scramble. With the StabiliSlide knee in the Ultrasonics, I don't think any knee strap is really necessary except for this function.

Sad to hear. I did not know him personally, but very much appreciated his contributions to this forum. 

6 hours ago, ilyazhito said:

That is an interesting device. How does it work? Hopefully you'll be able to break in your glove well. 

In theory, it works by compressing the glove around the pipe at the break, simulating closing the glove over and over. I’m just not convinced that my set up, with the limited linear travel of the arm - I.e. the amount the machine pushes the glove closed - and the wobbliness of the backside of the glove, is really going to achieve much. I’m going to heat it up and let it run for an hour today and see. 

6 hours ago, ilyazhito said:

How is a professor strap locking in the knee block going to help? Is that because the professor strap can be done tighter than a standard knee strap?

No, for me I just wanted a rigid (non-elastic) strap instead of the stock elastic. It just so happens that the included professor strap can be repurposed for this. This is basically what I would have built for myself if I had to make it from scratch, so I got lucky!

Ok, this is going to be one of the more ridiculous posts I’ll ever make, but thought I would share this idea with you all in the hopes that someone will have suggestions for improvements or make a better version.

I pieced together a DIY glove break in machine (heavily inspired by the Brian’s machine posted below) using home workshop stuff. My best and easiest solution for producing the linear motion necessary was to use a cheap variable-speed jigsaw I had lying around and attach an inexpensive ball access (available on Amazon, purportedly for turning a jigsaw into a percussive muscle massager). 

Clamped an aluminum tube across the break, clamped everything else together the best I could using the table from my drill press and this is the result:

Obvious I realize this isn’t a lot of travel, so I’m not sure how effective it will be. Hoping that if I run it for a few hours I’ll see some results. Planning to heat up the glove in the oven first.

I also think it will be more effective if I stabilize the back side of the glove more. Working on a solution for that.

Here is the Brian’s machine I referenced:

Thanks in advance for any thoughts/ideas!

Sharing a quick mod/idea that I tried and am very pleased with.

I was looking to add a rigid nylon strap behind the knee on my retail stock Ultrasonic pads (similar to the set up on Warrior pads). I was going to sew my own, but realized that the included professor strap works perfectly with the attachment points available in the knee cradle.

I just removed the 2” elastic and replaced it with the professor strap, running it down to the lower attachment point. Worked perfectly and is very similar to the feel on my G5s - exactly what I was going for.

7 hours ago, keeperton said:

That sucks for him that they got stolen. At least the seller did the right thing and refunded and is getting them back to him.

Its also good that Bauer figured this out before you received them! I'm sure that would have been much more of a headache for you at that point.

4 minutes ago, NoProZero said:

I'm glad to hear about that. I was worried that they would be kid size, but figured that Bauer wasn't making those yet since these are only available to Pro and NCAA. Did he mention how he managed to get these skates? 

Yeah I think you are safe on the size. I didn't ask how he got them. I'm curious too though.

2 minutes ago, NoProZero said:

I just bought these. I am the lucky one with giant feet this time. Cant wait to get them in the mail. I'll be sure to make a video for all when I receive them and after getting them on the ice for the first time. 

 

Really hope that Ebay seller is not a scam. Kinda weird that a shop like that had those skates. But they seem to have a good rep so I'm keeping my fingers crossed

Damn I'm so jealous. The shop was SUPER responsive to my messages. When they first posted, there was no size listed and I kind of had to coach the guy through where to find it. He replied to everything immediately and updated the listing with a picture of the tag, etc.

If they had been 7s I would have been all over them!

21 minutes ago, insertnamehere said:

 

Nice. Sounds like it will go live along with the rest of the line when it hits retail.

Just now, insertnamehere said:

I asked Warrior about it back in January, they said it would be offered for sale separately. I replied to the email thread again today and am awaiting a response. I've also contacted The Hockey Shop to see if they can get it in for me. 

Nice. If you get a lead and wouldn't mind sharing, I'd appreciate it!

1 hour ago, insertnamehere said:

Nice. I just need to try to find the slide plates!

Same here. That will be an instant purchase for me to try on my G5s.

If you wear a size 13, you can snatch up a pair:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/154921164627

On 2/3/2022 at 12:59 PM, StevenC said:

1 knee pad weighs 527 grams

Thank you! A little hefty, but not crazy. For comparison, one of my Warrior Senior knee pads weighed in at 337 grams.

18 minutes ago, StevenC said:

Of course, will do it when i get home from work!!

Awesome, thanks so much.

3 hours ago, StevenC said:

Everything's expensive over here in the UK!!

Unless i wanted some basic Warrior/Bauer's that i have tried and dont like then its importing from overseas for me. 

But yes, they are pretty pricy.

@StevenC any chance you have a scale and could provide the weight of one of the knee pads?

2 hours ago, insertnamehere said:

I figure there's only a couple months till the slide plate is available and then this won't be necessary, so I may just have to redo it another time or two. 

Yep, I feel the same way. I’ll purchase that slide plate as soon as it comes on the market. 

16 hours ago, Chenner29 said:

Scroll up to the post from Jan 9

16 hours ago, insertnamehere said:

@Punisher Goalie do you have any pics of your application on G5s? On mine, I seem to be able to get pretty good adherence except for a corner or two.

Yeah, it is only a really small spot. I think the main issue I had with my application was that I previously used 3M Scotchguard silicon-based spray to aide with sliding and I don't think I did a thorough enough job removing that with alcohol first.

I'm going to reapply that one piece and try again. 

Now that I finally have had an ice time with this mod, I can add my confirmation to the others in this thread that the Vivid product works phenomenally well applied to the knee block area (as noted above, I applied it to the knee wing and the knee leveler).

Here are my observations: for "big" slides, like butterfly slides across the crease and fully-loaded backside pushes, Vivid film is going to make any pad slide as well as CorTech and it appears to work consistently on fresh and choppy ice (it actually gave me the odd sensation that it doesn't care what the ice is like, its going to perform exactly the same, which is kind of a big deal). I had very little difficulty adjusting to it on these movements.

Where I had a little trouble was with small movements. On my G5s at least, it actually made it difficult to do a "little" push when down in the butterfly to one side or another. I noticed it a lot going from post to post in the RVH. At least twice in my game I hit the opposite post and then I kept on rotating out of position because after I slammed my toe into the post, my lead knee kept going. It will take some work to find the right feel.

Same with little movements, like shuffling side to side to block a rebound. I'm not sliding all the way into the corner or anything, I just mean that when you want to go 1' but you end up going 1.5' it can make a difference. Anyway, something to work on.

As far as durability, the film looks perfect, except for one small part of one edge on the knee leveler, which I thought would be taking the brunt of the wear, so I may reapply and try to get a better seal. I don't think the film will actually come off the sliding surface, but ice can get in under that tiny piece, so I want to avoid any trouble.

One thing I'm curious about - has anyone tested what happens when a puck gets caught between the pad and the ice? I had a shot yesterday squeak through as I was dropping down (luckily didn't go in and it was at the calf portion of my pad, not the knee) and it made me wonder if the film could potentially cause more squeakers. It would be a minor trade-off I think, but something to think about.

21 minutes ago, bunnyman666 said:

It made my heroic save have more panache when I stopped the high skills player on a breakaway! After the stop, I spun! That probably earned me a few d-bag points, but it was flashy and on rough ice!

Be cool man, be cool. You're going to get this stuff banned!