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since the large plate was completely destroyed, its use as a template was very difficult. so I just circled the glove itself on a sheet of cardboard cut out again tried on the glove and cut again inserted into a glove and cut again after that I transferred it to plastic and cut it out combined with a polystyrene liner and marked out the bend lines bent over a gas burner and tried on a glove for strength glued together with a polystyrene liner again inserted into the glove and marked the holes in the plate and drilled them to protect the outer material of the glove from friction against the plastic, pasted LD 3mm foam on the plastic now everything is ready for pre-assembly I can’t say how accurately I managed to reproduce the bends of the plate, but I liked the result especially when you consider that for the first time in my life I did the replacement of the plate with a glove on my own

after drying all the parts, a check was carried out which showed that the blocker had a lot of minor damage, the restoration of which is not difficult but will take a long time. the glove had less damage but they were more global. since I was more interested in the glove, I wanted to start using it as soon as possible, so I started with it. the weekend was almost entirely devoted to the family, so progress is small, but the work has begun The CORTECH Skin on the front was surprisingly almost intact. "surprisingly" because on the 1S pads it breaks down much more there was a small tear in the area of the attachment of the T pocket at the tip of the fingers and in the seam on the side of the cuff the first gap was eliminated by lining and sewing on a piece of jenpro to strengthen this place, the gap itself was stitched with a cross in the pocket area there was not only a CORTECH tear, but also a nylon tear in the corner not the most convenient place for repairs, and the choice of repair methods is small. I just started the seam a little more stepping back from the edge and the gap as a result, the pocket has slightly decreased, which will require adjusting the size of the inner large plate and polystyrene filler, but now it is completely intact one seam was also found that began to diverge and was restored then came the most hated job, the replacement of the binding. I don’t know why, but I don’t like sewing binding)) on the front of the palm, it was rubbed in places until it completely disappeared leftovers have been removed and the binding has been replaced the same thing happened on the inner palm and replaced but what was a large plate and polystyrene filler polystyrene glue works wonders I also managed to make a new large plate, but I will talk about this in detail next time. to be continued...

thanks! so the first question) the palm protection on my 1S is visually the same as on your 1X, have you played with it yet? enough protection? it is very thin and this confuses me a lot, although the presence of Poron in the inside of the glove is somewhat reassuring. Do you think additional reinforcement is needed, for example, with 4 mm foam?

thanks! I don't have as much glove repair experience as @ArdeFIN, so I re-read all his topics and remembered a lot that might be useful to me. I hope everything works out the way I plan. but in any case, I will be very grateful for feedback with advice and opinions

I currently own a Reebok XL24 if I'm not mistaken 590. and I never liked it. I bought it brand new and after two years of use I almost got used to it After I tried the 1S pads, I kept looking for a Bauer glove. I even almost bought Vasilevskiy's glove, but the deal did not take place I was looking for both the glove itself and the set, but for a long time I did not come across anything with a good price / condition ratio and just this week a 1S kit was bought for $80. in a "dead closet" state the seller kept silent about some shortcomings. which were not visible in the photo, and I was in too much of a hurry to get them to ask questions. my fault disassembly before washing showed that "the patient is in clinical death" and there is a lot of work to be done here are some quick pics a large plate was broken in the glove and it closed very poorly despite long use before disassembling for washing, I weighed the glove and blocker to compare with my current XL24 and Velos V3 1S glove 980g XL24 glove 905g 1S blocker 885g Velocity V3 Blocker 758g although even before weighing, it was clear by feel that the 1S was heavier and if with a glove this difference was not very noticeable, especially considering that 1S is a PRO and an entry-level XL24, then the 1S blocker was much heavier than my professional and reinforced V3 everything was taken apart and washed and now it is drying meanwhile, I carefully studied the existing problems and roughly determined the work needed. yes, the state is very sad and there is a lot to be done, but after the successful restoration of the 1S pads, which were not in the best condition, I think that everything will work out, it will just take a little longer than initially I would like to be continued

you are the glove guru. I always read your threads with interest.

I've always wondered "what's in the pad?" and I have always followed the development of their design and current trends In my opinion, the biggest revolution in strapping has been the introduction of the Brians Smart Strap. in the past, leather or nylon straps had to be loosened to rotate the pad, which compromised pad control and responsiveness with the use of elastic straps, it was possible to fasten the pads more tightly for better control but without disturbing the rotation I started using elastic straps before the Premier 4 and have stayed with them ever since. at the same time, I am looking for new ways to attach the pad to the legs I read in IngoalMag about CCM research that showed that the main interaction of the legs with the pad is under the knee and upper calf i tried this change on my old pads by moving the elastic strap attachment points up it really worked in this old photo you can also see that the knee elastic is sewn into Velcro along with the lower leg elastics does it remind you of anything?) right also done by Brians on their X-strap this is a very convenient system in terms of the speed of putting on / taking off, but it has one very important nuance - usually the tension on the shin and knee straps requires different things and it is very difficult to set up the system as required perhaps for this reason, Brians abandoned its further use. but I really like this idea. I thought why not take the idea of matching the knee strap with the calf strap to a new level using the TuneFit idea I copied from Bauer? separating one end of the shin elastic from the buckle, I sewed it to the knee elastic this gave new sensations and in general should have worked, but it was necessary to introduce the possibility of adjusting the length of the elastic band in order to change its tension I took the rest of the CRS parts which are made of neoprene, an elastic material that allows them to have some stretch as well. sewed an elastic band with an adjusting buckle to them and sewed them themselves to the shin pad and fixed the elastic it turned out similar to the CCM mounting system for attaching the shin guard, I used a standard Bauer elastic sewn to the shin wing with all the positive qualities of elastic straps, they have one significant drawback - they are elastic (lol). that is, it's hard to set a limit on their stretch range to avoid this: rigid straps are deprived of this disadvantage, but they are also deprived of the advantages of elastic ones, which I mentioned above then why not combine the advantages of both straps by limiting their stretch? I met several times, including on this forum, fixing the knee using a nylon strap. such a strap will definitely limit the mobility of the knee and its possibility of falling from the knee block found a piece of nylon sling and sewed instead of elastic left leg nylon, right leg elastic on the floor without skates it worked. the nylon strap allowed for tighter pad response, while the neoprene CRS part gave the necessary mobility believing in a positive result of the fitting. I bought a 5 cm (2 inch) piece of nylon strap and sewed it onto the pads it remains to test it on ice, which will not happen soon due to covid

Ever since I owned the Premier 4, I've been using a skate-to-pad elastic. more precisely, even earlier, on the previous pads, by simply copying the brians toe strap. and already on P4 switched to bungee. I really liked it and since then on every pad I have used them, moving from pad to pad - from Opt1k to 1S, from 1S to 2X. it didn't take long, but anyway I got bored and decided to make a second set this required an elastic cord, pieces of jenpro and Velcro. I had all this. whole skein of cord Velcro in different sizes and pieces of jenpro from old Itech pads while looking for jenpro pieces i stumbled across a couple of sleeve straps from my TotalOne C/A which fit me perfectly cut them in half, getting four parts from each second part I separated one Velcro "dad" by sewing instead of it a Velcro "mom" making holes for the cord and tucking the edge under the Velcro it turned out like this then plug in the cord and tied to a toe bridge now each of my pads has its own bungee to be continued... further will be even more interesting

great review! everything is thorough, detailed, with attention to every detail! how I like it!

Hello again after purchase and repair 2X I never used 1S again. why? I did not make a separate comparison of 1S and 2X, but I will talk about it briefly 1S definitely glide better, have hotter rebounds, close the 5th hole better (after my upgrade). it turns out that they are better than 2X in everything. except for one that turned out to be the most important - 1S feel like alien boards tied to the leg, while 2X are like old comfortable jeans that you don’t notice the main inconvenience of 1S was expressed in their "creep" down the skate. moreover, tightening the straps did not improve the situation, but only added discomfort and worsened rotation. I did something wrong... at the end of January, I got to know Omicron closely, and when I felt better, and I got tired of social networks and serials, I took out 1S again and began to look for the reason for the uncomfortable landing. for a long time I visually compared 1S and 2X trying to understand the reason for the "creep". and i think i figured it out the problem was in the shape of the back of the boot that falls on the skate namely in its shape and angle. in the process of recovery, I removed the soft foam rubber, which had almost completely decomposed from the leg canal it shouldn't have been done. well, or it was necessary to replace it with something that creates a "step" at the top of the boot understanding the problem is the first step to solving it I removed the bottom binding and ripped the side seam, after that, loosened the lacing cut a strip of 15mm foam and glued into the leg channel I also found that the leg channel at 1S is much looser and wider than at 2X. I didn’t take photos of measurements, but the difference is about 2.5 cm. I have rather thin legs and an unnecessarily free leg channel is not required. in addition, its width and better binding of the pad to the foot have to be compensated by tightening the elastic straps, which also does not have the best effect on the overall feel of the pad on the leg I cut off the outer wing of the lower leg and sewed it back on, shifting it 2 cm inside the leg channel then reassembled the pad thanks to the addition of foam, a platform was formed on the back of the boot and a distinct "place for a knee guard" fitting showed that the effect of "creeping" disappeared But that's not all to be continued...

thanks for your appreciation of my work. this is really valuable to me! Russians have a saying - the eyes are afraid, the hands are doing. so with me. this is not my first "intervention" in the design of the pads, but the most global, so although it was a little scary at the beginning, the further process aroused only interest, without fear. Maybe that's why everything turned out as intended

the standard knee block on the Optik is corded to the pad. the cord runs through all parts of the pad from the back skin to the front skin through the core. to remove and replace the knee block, you will need to completely unlace the pad and remove the seam between the back skin and the front skin here is the lacing of the knee block the cord running through all parts of the pad is attached to these front skin loops

yes, I already looked in high resolution, I was mistaken. its elastic strap just blends in with the gaiters

maybe at that moment in my screenshot, he just unfastened the straps, because before that there was a little mess

TuneFit, as Vasilevsky wears it, and many, including me, fastens the lower leg in the middle, which does not fix the knee from falling from the block to the side. if you fix the lower leg higher. directly below the knee, as True did, which replaces the Professor's strap, then you really may not need a knee strap in any case, I have long wanted to try to abandon the knee strap and I will do it

with the Professor's strap, you can certainly cancel all other straps. but here Vasya does not have the Professor's strap I have ice tonight and will try to unfasten the knee strap on my 2X. they don't have the Professor's strap, so it's going to be pure experimentation. if I feel any result, I will write to everyone who is interested in this

it seemed to me? or Vasilevskiy plays without knee straps? does anyone know anything about this?

as an afterword. the most interesting question for me "What's in the pad?" Following the release of the 1S, Bauer refreshed the Vapor line with the 1X, which was expected to have a "hybrid style" pad. but that did not happen. according to reviews, 1X was not much "softer" 1S. this is easily explained if we compare the designs of the 1S and 1X cores The 1X had the same core as the 1S except for the boot angle (but it was just as stiff) and a thinner outer 1X at the same time, the 1X core also had an increased size of the CURV composite insert at the hip rise, extending beyond the bend over the knee what made it impossible in principle to bend it over the knee with the release of 2X, Bauer reworked the core that now had the name according to reviews, the pad had a double internal break allowing it to flex well above and below the knee more in line with the concept of a "hybrid style" in fact, this is not entirely true: the 2X core has only one internal break under the knee (like my 1S and 1X) and the ability to bend over the knee is due to the softer black HD foam (relative to 1S) since the white polystyrene foam remains the same in terms of thickness. and by density By the way, this also affected rebounds, which in 2X are slightly weaker than in 1S Also, the greater softness above the knees was influenced by the change in the size of the CURV composite in the hip lift, which became 2X smaller and located as in 1S 1S 2X but the main change of 2X over 1X is the absolutely soft boot This was achieved by a very simple constructive solution - the addition of soft foam rubber between the hard parts of the boot and the main core but the excessive softness of the used foam rubber eventually leads to its rupture actually as in the case of a hard boot to make an ideal pad in terms of durability again failed ... but in terms of performance, the 2X pad is simply unrivaled in its aggregate qualities. this is my favorite pad at the moment also credit should be given to Bauer for his commitment to correcting design errors and working to increase the durability of his products. Bauer is attentive to user feedback and makes changes during the development of new products. so in the 2X core there were places for reinforcing the bend of the boot (black material in the photo below) hope this information was helpful. Thank you for your attention

of course. we can invent all sorts of unimaginable shit

Reading this thread I was very surprised that in North America only now this life hack was "discovered" after watching a fresh video about Miklin) in fact, in Russia half (if not more) of amateur league goalkeepers use 3M tape on sliding surfaces. about 5-7-10 years old

here on the forum the phrase was heard that True pays extra to his goalkeepers for the transition to the brand

this work was finished about a month ago and I already had some ice with 2X. and it was amazing! I think I found the perfect pads for me. If С / A Vaughn is compared to an old comfortable sweater, then 2X for me has become something like my favorite jeans) they perfectly sit on the leg without interfering at all and without giving a feeling of foreignness, repeating all my movements and working as I wanted. rebounds are not as hot as 1S but definitely better than Opt1ks. glide is also slightly weaker than 1S but still light and excellent on any ice. I guess I'll leave the search for new models for now and play 2X for a while

since the pads no longer had any major defects, began assembly first tied the outer edge of the knee block to the rear trim then tied the inner edge to the skin through the core, as it should have been then tied all parts of the pad with the main cord life hack do not tighten the cord until the pad is fully assembled, as this may skew all the parts and make stitching difficult, because often the holes on all parts do not line up toe bridge was also very loose due to the stretched cord and was tight sewed the top, bottom and side parts that were cut and only after that, did the final tightening of the main cord. another life hack before tightening, you can "rest" the core in the pad by tapping all sides of the pad on a hard surface and spreading the outer skin with your hands if required. then all the parts will fit perfectly into place the last picture clearly shows how much "extra" cord was formed after a normal tightening sewed the top and bottom binding, hiding the ends of the cord under it I'm not a big fan of binders. especially if they are not needed, but on the upper and lower parts of the pad, I think they are really needed these parts always experience friction against ice, posts, each other. and it is easier (and cheaper) to replace a worn binding than a part of the skin in the unbound pads (for example Opt1k below)

As I said earlier, knowing the design of the pads of the new line on the example of my 1S, I believed (and was not mistaken) that tearing the skin on the face would not be the only problem inner side of the skin In this picture, you can see that Bauer was very careful about the durability of his products and made improvements to the design, reinforcing the bend of the boot with additional material that was absent on the 1S It should also be noted that already with the 1X model, Bauer has changed both the material and the way of attaching the side skin reinforcements at the bend of the boot. earlier they were glued thin patches made of material similar to CORTech now these are pieces of jenpro sewn to the skin but on the sliding side, the seam is still subject to abrasion and destruction the photo below shows that custom pads have this double seam everything is simple here, I restored the seam further, I took up the tearing of the skin glued reinforcing nylon flaps on the inside and sewed the fold and on the outside I glued the skin at the fold with super glue. this will only slightly restrict mobility, but should prevent further destruction to be continued...

I would like to say a few words about "Bauer quality". after the appearance of the 1S line of pads, I read a lot that "the quality of the Bauer leaves much to be desired ... after moving the assembly overseas ... blah blah" I do not quite agree with this position. I believe that it is necessary to separate the concepts of "quality" and "durability" The main problems with the 1S were the tearing of the CORTech skin, especially in the fold of the boot, for literally one season. I understand why this is happening - this skin is 2-3 times thinner than jenpro and does not resist constant bending / unbending poorly. that is, it is not an issue of "quality" of its workmanship, but namely of "durability", which Bauer began to address with the release of the second generation of the ST skin. this durability problem for me, "quality" is, first of all, the quality of sewing and assembly crooked seams, protruding threads, not matching holes for lacing, "thanks" to which, when pulled together, parts are deformed and the glove (for example) does not close well, and the like Based on my experience in disassembling and repairing different gears, I can say that the "quality" of assembly and sewing is practically the same for all manufacturers, regardless of the place of production and now about the "quality" of my pads "wrinkling" of the skin at the top crooked seams and protruding threads were also present in them. and there was this soft foam rubber has a length exceeding its seat. "superfluous" is even marked with a marker. but never cut off this foam rubber is also very crookedly glued, completely out of place of the leg channel at the same time, the foam rubber covers the holes in the lacing core and when tightening the lacing, it does not allow all parts of the pad to be tightly pulled together into one piece this leads to looseness of the entire structure and, above all, to looseness of the outer shin flap what does it threaten? to this flap are attached all the elastic bands that tie the leg to the pad. being too loose (as with the knee block) reduces the responsiveness of the pad, which ultimately affects the playing the foam was torn off, cut and glued in its correct place black HD foam on the boot is also crookedly glued to the foam (white) core this, in my understanding, is "quality". yes, it is not ideal, but it happens with all manufacturers and on this basis, I would not blame only Bauer. it depends on the accuracy and responsibility of each individual employee, regardless of which country the production is located in postscript I found a funny photo of Vasya in Ingoalmag for an article on the review of 2x pro pads, which shows the same gap in the bend of the boot. lol