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It's reinforced in both the T and the Spine. Helps with durability to a degree in that it will take longer to break down... and of course you have the flip side to some degree in potentially a longer break-in period as well. It has the same crease in the T as a standard... but it certainly a thicker insert than stock. I opted for it in my lastest set. If you're a goalie who has a habit of pushing down on their pocket a bunch (like i do) and you're getting a custom it's worth considering. Image taken from the My Bauer Custom Goal Gear Catalog (2S & 2X)

Damnit... I gotta make sure no one on my Sunday team sees these. They’ll all ask me why I got some dumb faux vintage look when u could have had pads that look that good and match out team colors. Well done @cwarnar. Love the gold logos, black weave, and just the right amount of red peaking through on the leg pads.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I suppose. I love a vintage look... but instead of cluttering it with printed faux straps etc... I kept it modern and minimal just like the pad itself. As for the goal cup... I haven't taken it apart... but the front cup is just an oversized cup and it does not provide any pelvic protection. The second cup on the goal unit does feel like a single molded piece just like the player cup. So I can't confirm 100% it's the same as a player's cup inside it does have the same shape... if a visual helps...

Also picked up some new jocks. Replaced an old (and broken) RBK SR Pro and standard Shock Doctor cup. The CCM GPro is a true double cup... oversized cup up front with standard size behind it. Super comfy. The other is a standard CCM Pro cup... which is a carryover from the Jofa years. Equally comfy and has the added benefit of some additional pelvic coverage as the cup and pelvic piece are a single molded & padded piece.

Corrected True Design 2X Pro leg pads... <8 week turnaround from the original delivery... which is about 1/2 of the time it took to get the first set. Shout out to Rance at the Goalie Crease for managing the situation. For those of you who haven't been on pins and needles waiting for an update to this story... the first delivery had the leg pads misprinted with the secondary faux patch on the face of the outer roll on not on the outside gusset. Should have them by the end of this week... Once I have them I'll take a nice family picture of the complete set and I will be updating my topic on impression so far... Original Delivery: Corrected:

Backside isn't necessarily flat... just the face. Really just an extreme of a steep boot angle I'd guess. Something like this...

Wanted to share my experience so far with some V1 Pro + I picked up off of Pro Stock Hockey. First off... I'm coming from using Bauer composites. I had tried a traditional paddle shape on a composite with a Sherwood BPM150... and didn't like it at all. From that point on I swore I was an Ergo paddle guy. But as the Bauer stock dwindled (still have 1 Pro Stock NXG but have finally depleted all the 2S Pro)... I really was having a hard time justifying $300 per twig... so I started to look around. This topic in particular finally peaked my interest in Warrior sticks again... but still didn't want to spend $300 each. Searched the interweb for a deal... SideLineSwap... eBay... HockeyStickman... etc. Then I stumbled on some for a curiously low price on Pro Stock Hockey. About 1/2 the price of a retail stick and 3 rolls of tape... might as well give it a try. So I picked a couple up thinking I'd immediately order 2 more if I liked them. I went with an Anton Forsberg 27" Actual paddle height with a mid curve. Upon receipt they felt good in my hand... light... less grippy of a paddle than Bauer... lie angle is steeper than P31 Bauer... and the balance point felt lower than on a Bauer... but no real issues so off to the scale they went. First one was a little heavy for what I saw on this topic but nothing crazy at 679g. I mean it's Pro Stock so it's not the exact same as retail. But the Second one came in at 730g... V1 Pro/CR1 territory. Let me stress that this is by no means heavy... but when expecting somewhere around 650g - 660g... that's heavy. I immediately started looking at the composition of the stick thinking maybe it was just a V1 Pro/CR1 dressed as a V1 Pro+. The carbon weave is small... no Minimus Carbon G 1200 markings etc... just the paint job and a name. I shot a note to Pro Stock Hockey looking for some clarity... but it was late on a Friday afternoon and didn't expect a reply over the weekend. So I decided to tape one up and use it in a Sunday game. Worst case I'd send one back to PSH and sell the used one to someone locally. Turns out I actually didn't really notice much of a change at all from the Bauer to this... so construction aside I'd order a couple more so I can have a good consistent twig for a little while. Before doing so though I did call PSH and talked to them about the make-up. Essentially while the carbon weave differed significantly from a retail V1 Pro+... the paint is really all they had to go on (unlike Bauers etc where you can discern by coding.) I did ask however that they weigh everything they had in stock and just send me the 2 lightest on my next order. They arrived 2 days later... and weights are 666g and 677g. Can't complain one bit. I'll use the remaining NXG and the "heavy" V1 Pro+ in my pick up skates and keep the 680, 677, and 666 sticks for games. It's still a bit of a head scratcher on what these are exactly... they seem lighter the a retail V1 Pro/CR1... but slightly heavier than a retail V1 Pro+. Are they stripped down V1 Pro/CR1 or beefed up V1Pro+? Whatever the case... the bottom line... they're plenty light and a great price... even came with 3 rolls of tape each (although it's not as good as Howies... it works.) TBD on the durability front but I have no reason to think they'll snap quickly. If anything I wondering how long I'll be using these things. https://www.prostockhockey.com/hockey-sticks/goalie-sticks/left-anton-forsberg-white-v1-pro-stick/

You mean like someone who maybe isn't working with CCM as much as they were when they had both the Premier and EFlex lines???

I've only seen a couple on SidelineSwap... and heard of a couple others on GGSU Facebook page. I think they're just rare to find at this point.

You and @SaveByRichter35 could very be right... paddle saves may happen far less often than I’m giving them credit. I will say I’m much more active with my 2S Pro than even my NXGs (which are light) so the weight is a factor. And yes... the scramble paddle save happens too. Had a breakaway earlier this week that I bit on early and reached back with the paddle and got it. The weight was definitely more of a factor than paddle shape... I mean hell the save was off the back on the Ergo spine. I appreciate the feedback fellas.

Honestly, in this case ignorance is bliss and I wish I was. I’d be in a Warrior stick no doubt if I hadn’t gotten used to Ergo paddles. Also, I could be making a big deal over nothing. Probably something I would just get used to eventually.

So the quote mentions blade... but my intention was to highlight the hot rebound aspect of super stiff composites. As for the frequency of shots to the paddle... often enough to care about how it plays... paddle down or just a quick shot. Nothing wrong with the technique being applied... simply maximizing my blocker surfaces. In some cases they just happen. I’d be surprised if you somehow manage not to take shots to the paddle. That in mind... a concave shape does change how rebounds come off. I mean if we were talking concave vs flat you could make a case for splitting hairs... but concave vs convex... especially when they’re hit rebounds... definitely matters. Quick shot comes through a screen and you didn’t get a good look at it... hits your paddle... concave is much more predictable than convex... and when it’s coming off quicker than an energy absorbing foam core... I dunno maybe it has to be experienced to be understood.

@twopadstack @seagoal @1C5 @Puckstopper @Kirk3190 I need feedback from you guys if you don't mind. I'm looking to get a new batch soon and my LHS selection sucks... so crazy as it may be... I'm hoping your comments can help me one way or another. Long story short... I've been using 2S Pro and while yes it's light and all that... but what I find I like most about Bauer's design for composites (and what I didn't like about the BPM150) is the paddle shape. The Ergo paddle just seems to make the rebounds more predictable and easier to control. To the portion of the post I highlighted above... all composites have the hot rebound characteristic when compared to foam cores... but how have you felt about the V1 Pro+ (or V1 Pro/ CR1) performance in this area? In the brief stint I had with the BPM150 the traditional paddle shape and composite material made for some interesting rebounds compared to what I was used to with the 2S Pro. I appreciate any candid feedback you can provide... especially if you have experience with not only the V1 Pro+ that you all own... but with an Ergo paddle as well. Anyone else who wants to chime in is welcome of course as well... thanks in advance...

I certainly didn’t mean to diminish what Bauer has done with 5G between the height and black coating. It’s definitely a better steel than 3G was. I would just say... and this is entirely by feel and not backed by any testing or measures... that Bauer steel feels softer. But I do like a good sharp edge and am pretty sensitive to both dull edges and nicks/burrs from posts etc. So my measure is how often I need to get resharpened. 2 sets of 5G is a good call to keep a fresh set at the ready. By all means though... relay your experience with them.

5G is better than previous Bauer gens... just doesn’t seem to hold up as well as other brands who specialize in steels. I found I needed sharpenings much more often in 5G than Tydans... and that’s both due to kicking posts and general ability to hold an edge. Just speaking for my own experience though.

Great color scheme and a great deal!! Well done.

Agreed. In my experience.... if you so much as breathe on a post the LS5G gets chipped... and previous iterations we're even worse than that. I swap out to aftermarket steels almost immediately (although I use Tydan and not Step.) Even the basic offering (non-coated) holds up far better than the highest end Bauer steel.

Received a nice little package over the weekend... for more on the pads link below...

Agreed. I don't mind the use if printed graphic at all... but they just seem out of place... like they're being used solely for the sake of using printing. Not sure it actually adds much to the colorways... and if EF4 was setting the precedent... those color zones where printing is used reduces the color options at retail. I have no doubt it will be a great pad functionally though.

Potentially a related question... are those specimen cups?? Are you... Making donations as a side hustle to help pay for new gear? Helping out a dozen people who have a drug test coming up?

Sweet new cup/compression combo... glove isn't bad i guess.

While I certainly don't disagree with InGoalMag on the comfort of the closure and matching up well to gripping the stick (and perhaps this next part is in part due to me being a terrible puck handler in the first place) but I found (and I think this is where CCM's mind is as well) that the lack of a pronounced "notch" at the base of a CCM 580 doesn't give you a good place to lock the stick shaft into the palm of the glove.. which you do find on a 590 or 600. But the break angle isn't the only factor in play... it's also the angle of cuff integration. Shown below... 580 is nearly straight across the bottom while the 590 and 600 (to an even larger degree) have a defined drop where the catching surface meets the cuff. That's where most guys who utilize a Turco grip rest the shaft of the stick. Thoughts...

I'm a 580 wearer with 2X Pro on the way... and IMO while the 2X Pro isn't the 90 degree you'd find on a 580... so pocket location is certainly different... the closure is much closer to the fingers to palm you have on a 580. That said... I anticipate having to tie down (or use a hot glove) with an overlap to get as close to a 580 feel as I can during break in.

Ha... ties are fine... the bridges were just 4 years old and broke down. HD was like tissue paper and the T nuts were tearing through the jenpro. I'll actually be interested to see what tie setup I find works best on the new pads... but for now... keeping as many bits in tact as I can for testing on the new set.

Feast your eyes on these... Premium CCM HD Toe Bridges. What makes them Premium? The fact that my old ones decided to die with only a month before new pads arrive... and on top of that my LHS doesn’t stock them so I had to pay shipping to get them. Maybe that makes them Premium Deluxe? For those of you who want a set yourself I included a picture of the bag with part number as well as the necessary tools to swap out the toe bridges and reinstall your Pro-Laces... enjoy...