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3 hours ago, RichMan said:

The 580s always look like they only open half way. I personally prefer a wide and rounded glove to take up more space, kinda like this...

 

This isn’t the exact same save, but positions of the gloves is similar kind of in a hand shake position or thumb in the air.

I find with the 580 or more so the Lefebvre 580s your pocket orientation is stays up, where with flatter gloves pocket orientation is more facing the wall. With anything in tight and projecting your hands, to me you get more vertical coverage with the pocket always staying 90. With flatter gloves there is more scoop to the lower ice, where your pad should already be so you end up with double coverage. 

Binnington Team Canada kit. 
 

As a pro 580 user. Seeing the rise of 90 degree breaks from other brands where they made long fingers or almost round gloves. I think the Lefebvre glove is still the top tier. To me the benefit of the 90 degree was never the closure, but the orientation of the pocket. I think this photo illustrates the vertical coverage.

5 hours ago, A.YOUNGoalie13 said:

What about @Steph Lawa what ever happened to him? I took over the gear sitings thread for him

I can confirm Steph is still kicking and has not faked his own death. He’s still rocking the latest Lefevre set and playing. I’m not sure why the posting stopped, probably just moved on. Makes me long for the GSBB days. I learned a lot in that era. 

On 5/6/2024 at 2:54 AM, ZeroGravitas said:

 

 

Shadow Blocker

 

Category	Retail/Stock Option	My Specs	Notes
Construction	Shadow	Shadow	Pro custom can select Vapor 2-PC or Hyperlite 2 construction.
Palm Size	SR	SR
Back Hand Foam	Stock	Stock	PC can spec a Mach backhand, which also changes the sidewall.
Thumb Pillow	None	Thumb Pillow	Pro Custom only

 

Does spec on the Mach bankhand give you back the traditional Supreme sidewall?

3 hours ago, A.YOUNGoalie13 said:

@ZeroGravitas Have you used both the vapor tune fit strapping and the supreme? Curious about the supreme because of the calf strap but I like wearing my pads super tight. Wonder if I should even bother switching on my next set.

In my experience the Vapor tune fit is way better. And the NHL Professor strap is the best, that would be great at retail. 

22 minutes ago, xmikex32 said:

You're high!! what have you been using for stiff pads 2x4's? lol to me they are the stiffest pad that I have used, but i get stiffness is relative to the user.

Not saying you're wrong and it sounds like you have some insight to gear but where did you hear there will no longer be a supreme senior line? feel like that would be a weird move since not everyone wants to drop 2K on shadow pads and some people dont like softer vapor x5's. Would just push people into other brands or buying older pads. 

It was stated in one of the other threads but on the retail side the M5 sold very poorly in comparison to the X5. And the GSX line seems to have done well enough to keep it as the secondary line. 

2 hours ago, RichMan said:

So while I'm browsing the web, I came upon Pure Hockey and low and behold, they have the Bauer S23 Pro pants custom option (colours, stripes, logos). The price is high in US funds. Is this just a PH exception like the THS or TGC specs sheets? 

You can customize them on the Goalie Monkey website as well. 

8 hours ago, coopaloop1234 said:

I am curious to hear more on how their pads are too customizable,

I didn’t specifically mention the pads. And I said Custom options are great when you order custom. I*** personally am not a fan of the removable palms etc that Warrior does. And that’s what I meant by trying to be everything to everyone. With the 6.1 and now 7.1 they don’t require that which again “to me” is a step in the direction I like. 

14 minutes ago, Puckstopper said:

This is why I still prefer 1 hard strap behind my knee/calf instead of all velcro. 

Brossiot had his pad come off similar to the picture mid game a couple years ago. He since has had a nylon strap that loops back similar to True pads. I’m surprised it isn’t stock and or requested more by Pro’s. I did see it on a Wedgewood demo set. 

1 hour ago, coopaloop1234 said:

Pretty sure Vaughn just has a pure stranglehold on the pants department anyways. 

 

They do, but there were always variations in makes and models based on the Velo line. With Pants Pro’s tend not to change too often throughout their career, there were always tons of outdated and older models guys seem to have updated as well as a ton of guys who were in CCM which used to have a huge stronghold in the pants department. 

With minor hockey it’s a different story, I see a lot of CCM. 

6 hours ago, IpaddyTECH said:

Some good points. I kinda like messing with all their options but at the same time a streamlined pad would be cool too.

Just curious, what pants do you like that present bigger?

Right now for pants probably the Vaughn SLR pants 3/4. These have quietly moved into the most used pant in the NHL. I think they present well from a straight on position while looking at a goalie in their stance or butterfly. Seem to have decent seal in 5 hole, in RVH leans, etc. 

I coach a lot of kids. I might see 100 goalies in a year. The few times I seen Warrior pants used they present like an upside down triangle if you know what I mean. Very wide on the hips and they (visually) look to taper as they get closer to the pads. Again this my objective take on it. You may love them and how they look. But it seems like even the Warrior Pro guys like Smith and Gorsuch aren’t using them. 

I really want to like Warrior equipment and the G7 seems to be a big step in the right direction for me. There is some great innovations with the equipment and how it’s designed to stop more pucks. Then there are some things that just turn me off. For me personally it’s almost to customizable? Custom options are fantastic for custom, but on a stock set it might try to hard be everything for everyone. For me they should focus on making it their way, for better or worse like other companies do where its a motto of “this is our design take it or leave it.” Maybe add a second line that uses their best ideas but is closer to market trends and then a full on Pete Smith line where he can just run in whatever crazy idea he likes. I think Pete was doing better leg channels on the 6000’s 15 years ago which line up with todays market place. 

A lot of steps in the right direction for Warrior, I hope they continue to push forward. 

Last gripe, they need a full overhaul on their pants. Optics aren’t every thing but man, I find they don’t present well in terms of coverage, like the barrel cut pants do. They’re so hip dominated and chunky, looking like my old Koho 590 or Sherwood 9980 pants.

Porter has done some Lefevre testing in the past. New Catalyst graphic? Construction. 

On 4/13/2024 at 2:13 AM, A.YOUNGoalie13 said:

Thompson with a new home set tonight. I’ve never seen this glove backhand from Bauer where its one piece

Do you mean the finger protection is one piece?

Looks like Mach finger protection with the traditional Supreme (US/2S/1S) cuff. 

Anaheim - Giguere
Arizona- Smith (Khabby a close second over Bryz and Burke)
Boston - Cheevers (love it or hate it, he’s one)
Buffalo - Hasek
Calgary - Kippursoff
Carolina - Ward
Chicago - Esposito (Belfour, Crawford)
Colorado - Roy
Columbus - Denis
Dallas - Belfour 
Detroit - Osgood
Edmonton - Fuhr
Florida- Luongo ( and Beezer’s mask alone in second)                                                                                                             LA - Quick
Minnesota - Backstrom
Montreal - Roy (Plante a hard second over Dryden)
Nashville - Rinne (Vokoun has to be in the conversation)
NJ - Brodeur
NYR - Richter (with all due respect to Lundy. Would all of these guys have the Statue of Liberty on their masks without Mike?)
NYI - Billy Smith
Ottawa- Lalime (Razor and Andy could be 1 on any given day)
PHI - Hextall
PIT - Fleury (Barasso close second)
SJS - Nabokov
SEA -Drieger
STL -Liut
TBL - Vasy ( Edging out Khabby and Puppa)
TOR - Bower, I know everyone says Cujo but his first run was only 4 years. Potvin played almost 100 more games.
VAN - McLean (Lou and Cloutier respectively)
VGK - Fleury 
WAS - Kolzig
WPG - Helleybuck (Essensa if we consider this a continuation of the Jets or Lehtonen if we consider this a branch of Atl)

On 4/13/2024 at 3:45 PM, ZeroGravitas said:

Per the video: Cam mentions at 5:26 the new default is jenpro instead of speedskin - not sure if that applies to all stock retail sets? I think @ThatCarGuymight have pointed this out a couple months ago? They also mention that CCM claims weave is worse on fresh ice. They also mention that the change in materials and design -> increased sliding -> 24% improvement in sliding on clean ice and 37% improvement on rough ice. How much of that is due to materials (reversion of speedskin to jenpro ) and how much to design?

Jumping on the #2 bandwagon!!

I submitted the following set this morning - minor tweaks to previous set I had posted.

I gotta say this one is amusing. CCM has done the testing and the science proves that solid Jenpro is the best for sliding.

Yet for the last couple of years consumers have said that that Speedskin actually made sliding worse and CCM insisted that we were all wrong and that is superior. 
 

And now, CCM  coming with this science approach as if it’s their new discovery. So much so that you can’t actually get Speedskin on your sliding surface at all anymore. 

Anyone know if Fusion is still in business?

New True Hzrdus sticks. 

Just now, RedX said:

I feel as there is less variations and secret sauce stuff. But the 2000s was certainly fun for that “Fleury foam/ strapping.” 

The orange Easton suspender at one time had this reputation as it kept popping up after Easton closed down. And certain shaped Bauer dangler. 

The closest thing I can think of now, is like Pro only stuff, such as the 2S based glove a lot of guys use. More guys in the NHL are using the 4.1 gear over the Hzrdus stuff. But I wouldn’t say they’re nearly as coveted to be true Unicorn’s. 

I feel as there is less variations and secret sauce stuff. But the 2000s was certainly fun for that “Fleury foam/ strapping.” 

The orange Easton suspender at one time had this reputation as it kept popping up after Easton closed down. 
 

The closest thing I can think of now, is like Pro only stuff, such as the 2S based glove a lot of guys use. More guys in the NHL are using the 4.1 gear over the Hzrdus stuff. But I wouldn’t say they’re nearly as coveted to be true Unicorn’s. 

29 minutes ago, keeperton said:

Hmm, interesting. I tried on a few different browsers and such, not there for me.

These were actually helpful videos. Made me glad I went with the options I went with. I'm glad the videos totally showed what's different with the 12.x vs. 20.x lines in the leg channels and such too.

Most interesting thing I noticed is that the HZRDUS pads, if you put just the nylon option, has no elastic strap coming out of the knee.

Price actually started this at the end of his career, albeit with a leather strap instead of nylon. 

Those started to pop up in clearance. I upgraded from Heaton neckguard I’ve had for 20 years. 
 

The materials do feel thin, and I can see them wearing out but mines been good in the 15 times I’ve worn it. It is rock hard when cold and gel when warm I find. 
 

Overall I’ve enjoyed it. If I could change anything it would be a dip on the front of the neck like some of the Roughneck ones. And I’d like a dip at the back as I’ve had my backplate catch on it on occasion. 
 

I am thinking on looking up Dave Wilcox or someone to reskin it in the summer if that were even possible. 

Bauer Pro and CCM KP Pro

Helleybuck with the classic Reebok.

On 1/21/2024 at 4:52 PM, JDASILVA said:

Just curious if anyone has removed the Tune Fit calf strapping on the Mach pads and just used these two straps?

I think you’re fine to use that. I removed the tune fit on my old 2X and it was no problem. 

Scott Wedgewood rocking a Bauer blocker with True graphic. Green’s don’t line up perfectly.