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Converting Roller to Ice *calling all frankenskate creators”


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So for awhile my x700 skates have been hurting my feet, even after baking. 
I recently got the idea to try and convert my Tour thor G1’s to ice skates. But I have thought of some problems

1) the Tour skates have cowlings while the Bauer ones do not. Which means the toe cap of my roller skates won’t be able to stop a shot like the Bauer skates if I take off the cowling.

2) if I just swap the chassis and runner I’m worried that the Tour skates will be too high and the vapor skates too low.

3) is it worth it? My roller skates have been the most comfortable skates I’ve worn in a long time. And my current ice skates don’t let me get tight bcs of pain.

unrelated question, does swapping rivets multiple times damage skates?

Does anyone have suggestions what I should do?

do I just swap the runner and chassis of each respective skates with each other? 
do I just buy a new cowling for the roller skates? Or something else.

here are pictures of the skates

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I'm all for a franken skate! Current setup (left) and previous skates (Right). I've also had the True holders on a player boot that fit my foot well. 

Looking at the pictures of of the heels, by swapping the chassis', it looks like you would actually lower the Tour's by a couple millimeters or so. So, if you just did the swap I don't think the height would be an issue. With the tours you would definitely need some type of cowling, but at the same time I cannot speak to the robustness of the tour cowlings in regard to ice pucks. 

Swapping rivets into the current holes would not damage anything, as they should be replaced anytime they start to show wear. You, or whoever would do the swap, will need to drill new holes to fit the respective chassis as roller and ice are nowhere close to the same position. 

Comfort is worth the experiment. In the end you need to be comfortable, but have proper protection at the same time. If you can accomplish both of those with the swap, go for it. Playing with foot pain will hinder your performance and most of all won't be fun. 

 

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21 minutes ago, Bmats30 said:

I'm all for a franken skate! Current setup (left) and previous skates (Right). I've also had the True holders on a player boot that fit my foot well. 

Looking at the pictures of of the heels, by swapping the chassis', it looks like you would actually lower the Tour's by a couple millimeters or so. So, if you just did the swap I don't think the height would be an issue. With the tours you would definitely need some type of cowling, but at the same time I cannot speak to the robustness of the tour cowlings in regard to ice pucks. 

Swapping rivets into the current holes would not damage anything, as they should be replaced anytime they start to show wear. You, or whoever would do the swap, will need to drill new holes to fit the respective chassis as roller and ice are nowhere close to the same position. 

Comfort is worth the experiment. In the end you need to be comfortable, but have proper protection at the same time. If you can accomplish both of those with the swap, go for it. Playing with foot pain will hinder your performance and most of all won't be fun. 

 

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I really love angle I get with the cowlingless skates, so if I were to buy a Bauer cowling to put over the tour skate I’m worried about losing the edge I can get from the cowlingless. 
I feel combing the two can keep me at the angle I want plus the comfort.

the problem lies with the protection. Do you think I get the angle+ protection by buying Bauer cowlings while cutting the sides? (What trav4oilers did)

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I would get a cowling from goalie monkey's clearance section, one 80 or one 100 series, if they have your size, and try them as is before cutting them if needed.  Only if you're set on modifying your rollers.  It might be worth just trying another brand or series of ice skate.  You could find a good deal on sideline swap and sell again if they don't work out as well as well the ones you don't like now.  As part of this goalie community, I'm sure we'd all rather see a project posted with a ton of photos and results that we'd all enjoy reading about.  But time is precious and experiments can be expensive and can fail.  Either way, keep us posted.

Off-topic but I wanted to mention that your pictures illustrate what forced me to change some of my foot work between skate styles.  I was used to Tour skates for 5-6 years before I got Mission Inhaler skates (much closer to Bauers and ice skates in general).  The Tour cowling goes past the wheel, so you can drag your toes around pointed straight down at the floor, but the Mission's wheel extended past the cowling and that motion was prohibited by the wheel.  That was a rude wakeup call to my subconscious leg movements.  It made transitioning to ice easier though after having gotten used to it.  That was almost a decade ago and I still miss being able to do that to this day.  If there's a goalie ice skate that has that, please let me know.

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15 hours ago, dreadlocked1 said:

I would get a cowling from goalie monkey's clearance section, one 80 or one 100 series, if they have your size, and try them as is before cutting them if needed.  Only if you're set on modifying your rollers.  It might be worth just trying another brand or series of ice skate.  You could find a good deal on sideline swap and sell again if they don't work out as well as well the ones you don't like now.  As part of this goalie community, I'm sure we'd all rather see a project posted with a ton of photos and results that we'd all enjoy reading about.  But time is precious and experiments can be expensive and can fail.  Either way, keep us posted.

Off-topic but I wanted to mention that your pictures illustrate what forced me to change some of my foot work between skate styles.  I was used to Tour skates for 5-6 years before I got Mission Inhaler skates (much closer to Bauers and ice skates in general).  The Tour cowling goes past the wheel, so you can drag your toes around pointed straight down at the floor, but the Mission's wheel extended past the cowling and that motion was prohibited by the wheel.  That was a rude wakeup call to my subconscious leg movements.  It made transitioning to ice easier though after having gotten used to it.  That was almost a decade ago and I still miss being able to do that to this day.  If there's a goalie ice skate that has that, please let me know.

 

15 hours ago, dreadlocked1 said:

I would get a cowling from goalie monkey's clearance section, one 80 or one 100 series, if they have your size, and try them as is before cutting them if needed.  Only if you're set on modifying your rollers.  It might be worth just trying another brand or series of ice skate.  You could find a good deal on sideline swap and sell again if they don't work out as well as well the ones you don't like now.  As part of this goalie community, I'm sure we'd all rather see a project posted with a ton of photos and results that we'd all enjoy reading about.  But time is precious and experiments can be expensive and can fail.  Either way, keep us posted.

Off-topic but I wanted to mention that your pictures illustrate what forced me to change some of my foot work between skate styles.  I was used to Tour skates for 5-6 years before I got Mission Inhaler skates (much closer to Bauers and ice skates in general).  The Tour cowling goes past the wheel, so you can drag your toes around pointed straight down at the floor, but the Mission's wheel extended past the cowling and that motion was prohibited by the wheel.  That was a rude wakeup call to my subconscious leg movements.  It made transitioning to ice easier though after having gotten used to it.  That was almost a decade ago and I still miss being able to do that to this day.  If there's a goalie ice skate that has that, please let me know.

I was thinking about buying a set of Bauer vertexx cowlings and cutting those. Just came across a recent problem. The boot of the tour skates may be a little too flimsy. I should probably skate around with the tour skates and figure it out.

this option seems a lot cheaper than buying a used pair trying them on and reselling them.

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