Bauer Supreme 1s Od1n pads. Reboot

[ser33]

Hello everybody

after the end of the Opt1k project

I had several ices with them and I liked the result of the work - the pads became noticeably stiffer, and the integrated knee block gave excellent stability in the butterfly

but despite reinforcing the core of the pads, the rebounds were not as hot as I would have liked. is it possible to improve this? I don’t know the answer. I've heard a lot that with the introduction of the S line, Bauer made the hottest rebound pads

I decided to find out if this is so As an experiment, I bought 1S Od1n in a "dead closet" state (hello, bunny man) for $ 70. the pads had all the problems characteristic of the first generation of this line

erased upper corners that someone before me has already tried to fix

a torn fold on the boot, which was also very unsuccessfully tried to fix

erased side binding (I'm not sure if Google will translate this word correctly, but from the pictures you will understand what it is about), which is also a constructive miscalculation by Bauer

also felt (and was confirmed later) the pad had a broken boot and had a strange bending below the knee

before I finally decided that I would keep the pads for myself and start reanimating them, I spent three ice sessions in them and the first impressions I was very impressed with

Despite this condition, the pads glided amazingly (especially on bad ice), so I slipped past the posts and had incredible rebounds. and the hit of the puck on the pad was accompanied by such a loud sound that could be heard outside the ice)))

and they did all this better than the modernized Opt1k ...

The Bauers were XL (36 + 1) and the Opt1k 35 + 2 giving an overall size of 37 "for both. Comparison showed they were indeed the same

but at the same time, Bauer had a much flatter profile, without a pleasant curve like Opt1k which made it somewhat difficult to close the 5 hole for my not the widest butterfly

pad weight 2196 grams versus 2142 for Opt1k

Bauer's knee stack was about 1-1.5 "higher than the Opt1k and during testing my knee landed on the bottom of it, although it never fell off the stack, I must admit

also hip lift (+1 for Bauer and +2 for Opt1k) I don't really like, so when Bauer is restored, the heights of the knee stack and hip lift will be slightly changed

to find out how the patient is feeling, you need to perform an autopsy (lol) yesterday's autopsy showed that the patient died before the autopsy

the pad did have a crack in the boot

and the foam has already begun to decompose

therefore was mercilessly removed

removal of the foam showed that the core had many splits, which were glued in the first place

I was also surprised to find that the core had an internal break under the knee, which looked like a clearly "factory" origin

As far as I have information on the construction of 1S pads, they did not have an internal break that appeared on 1X afterwards. what is this? custom?

also the pad had foam splitting on the top and the outer CURV composite came off the foam

thus there is a lot of work to be done, but it is not impossible

first of all, all the cracks in the core were glued and the inner break under the knee was also glued, which gave the core a curve similar to Opt1k

Thank you for the attention

to be continued

p. s. sorry for the large number of words and for my english, i am writing via google translator

Edited February 7, 2022 by ser33

[kohula]

I love your work. But I don´t have such big balls to do something like that to my pads But I wondered, that the bigger curve on my 2S would be perfect. Never mind, let´s keep us posted

[ser33]

25 minutes ago, kohula said:

I love your work. But I don´t have such big balls to do something like that to my pads But I wondered, that the bigger curve on my 2S would be perfect. Never mind, let´s keep us posted

Thanks. I like doing this. there is a lot of work with this project, because I want to do everything well and subsequently use them as long as possible, so due to lack of time the work may take several weeks

[ser33]

Are you wondering how the most revolutionary pads of the decade work? It was very interesting to me. During my life I have disassembled and repaired many pads - Reebok, Velocity, Itech, Bauer, Brians. but the more I took apart Od1n, the more I was amazed at the creativity of the Bauer developers. almost every technical solution is aimed at achieving the set goals - better glide, better rebounds, low weight and rigidity Let's start with the base of the last - its core. The idea to use foam in the construction, which is a set of thermally compressed granules, appeared in my memory in the Reebok P1. but there only the lower part of the block is made of it

Bauer went further and made the whole core, which gave it great rigidity.

outside - traditional HD-foam, and inside - soft foam (yellow) - very soft, but very short-lived material.

to further increase the hip lift, a CURV composite was used which was added between the HD foam and foam and on the outside of the HD foam.

Next comes the most important and most important part of this patch - the leather, which Bauer calls Cortech leather. It is a multi-layer construction made of polyurethane leather on a knitted elastic base.

but what is hidden inside is much more interesting. and there is a soft foam that does not stick to the base, but, apparently, is applied to it during the molding process

when I disassembled the block on the skin, there were clearly foreign components - traces of a previous not very high-quality repair a plate of unknown origin made of soft plastic, apparently designed to increase the rigidity of the last in the place of the boot bend

under which there was a strip of genuine leather connecting the two parts of the leather and firmly glued to the soft inner foam

everything was deleted further sliding of the lower leg

t was thick enough to offer a common design for all pads but in reality it turned out to be made of lightweight molded plastic on the outside, covered with a CORTECH skin.

there was no foam cushion inside, but there was a void and a small reinforcing frame made of foam

the lateral fenders of the shin were quite traditional - a pocket with foam inside, but here Bauer distinguished himself. the outer lining is made of breathable mesh and the foam itself is a honeycomb structure with holes to reduce weight and ventilation

between the retractable platform and the side wings is an unnamed pillow, the name of which ("help butterfly") Bauer came up with only with the advent of Ultrasonic)) it was also very traditional - a pocket with foam inside

the knee stack was a traditional design of the external, internal valves and the knee block itself between them, fastened together with Velcro. the binding of the pads is also quite traditional

but then it was more interesting. the outer flap was also made of molded plastic coated with CORTECH

the inner flap is a traditional pocket with foam inside, but the foam itself was no longer traditional. Poron XRD patch hinted at its contents

at first it seemed to me that this black foam is Poron, but in my C / A Totalone I remember that it should be yellow

and so it turned out. inside there was a small piece of Poron the size of a kneecap

you can also see how worn out the outer coating is - this is another "proprietary" disease of this model.

the knee block itself is the same pocket with foam inside

but inside there was a mega-rigid foam plastic of a pale pink color

I met a hard block on my P4 from where it switched to Opt1k

but Bauer's foam is much tougher this is all for now

to be continued

[ArdeFIN]

Very interestin project. Keep up the good work!

Funny to see that minimal piece of XRD in the knee flap. That hitech material isn't that expensive that they couldn't afford to have atleast half of the flap covered with it. Not sure it would make any difference but that small tab isn't doing much either if your knee isn't hitting the center of it.

You are not planning to bend the thigh lift at all like the Brians are? That would help the most with 5-hole coverage...

[ser33]

On 8/29/2021 at 10:37 AM, ArdeFIN said:

Very interestin project. Keep up the good work!

Funny to see that minimal piece of XRD in the knee flap. That hitech material isn't that expensive that they couldn't afford to have atleast half of the flap covered with it. Not sure it would make any difference but that small tab isn't doing much either if your knee isn't hitting the center of it.

You are not planning to bend the thigh lift at all like the Brians are? That would help the most with 5-hole coverage...

The only logical explanation I see is that they made this piece of Poron in the shape of a kneecap and positioned it in the center of the block, apparently with a view to landing a bare knee. but now almost no one plays without knee guards

you are absolutely correct that the over-knee hip lift will give better 5 hole closure. my Brians originally had a Fly core that does not have this bend and is as straight from the knee as Bauer (right picture)

I already "made" it, just keeping the pads upside down

This was helped by the very construction of the Brians core, which from the knee upwards consists of two layers of HD foam 8mm thick and flexible enough

at Bauer this foam is in one layer and its thickness increases on the rise of the thigh from 10mm to 12mm at the very top. it is much tougher and white foam is glued to it from the inside

therefore, to make a bend over the knee, it would have to be cut and glued, which will undoubtedly reduce the overall rigidity. I do not want to do this. in spite of the fact that in the process of repairs I upgrade the pads "for myself", I also want to leave some of their features in order to use Bauer's solutions

the extra bend below the knee that I did should be enough

Edited August 30, 2021 by ser33

[ser33]

meanwhile, the work on the separation of the component parts continued

the core of the second pad had a very strong split in the hip lift

and was glued back

while it all dried up, I took up the knee block. Bauer has the toughest knee block I have ever experienced and the presence of Poron in it does little to protect against high impact load on the body. during my ice sessions in them I even had problems with my lower back

besides, it was a little thin. on Brians I increased the thickness to 2 "and I liked it. so for the Bauer knee block I also added the foam left over from the Brians block to the solid LD foam

and on top attached the inner part of the Bauer with Poron and convex "pads" having received such a sandwich with a thickness of about 5 cm (2 ")

but you can't just take and increase the bend below the knee and then put the knee block in place

the knee block will have a different "wrong" angle

the increased bending must be compensated for by increasing the thickness of the core under the knee as seen in the Brians photo

therefore a foam strip was added to the knee and below the knee to compensate for the new thickness

Funnily enough, this frozen food box foam has a significantly higher density than the Bauer core foam. this is what I used to increase the stiffness of the Brians core earlier

after gluing, the desired corner was cut and everything is well aligned and sanded

this gave a new "correct" angle of adhesion of the knee block to the core

the torn boot was also glued in place

then again to be cut off))))

As I said earlier, I don't really like the height of the hip and the position of the knee block on the Bauer. so I will cut off the excess a little. when gluing the external CURVE in place, I shifted it lower by 1.5 cm, which made it possible to cut off the "excess" without destroying the composite itself

and if changing the height of the thigh was a simple task, then reducing the height of the lower leg and knee block is already a more difficult task. To do this, I again cut the freshly glued boot, but already according to new sizes, also reducing the length by 1.5 cm

also 1.5 cm were cut off from the boot

this gave a very precise cut allowing good adhesion of the parts and which was also well sanded

the "step" formed after gluing was also sanded

finally, strips of material were glued on the inside to protect the joint

in the end, it so happened by chance that the angle of the boot became closer to 90 degrees like on the Vapor, which will be another nice bonus

to be continued....

[ser33]

Hello again) gluing is finished and sewing has started. the process is fascinating, but very long. I do not have a sewing machine, everything is done by hand. so all my projects are real hand made))))

first of all, I started making a new wrapper for the knee block I thought for a long time which block construction to use in this project. and then thought for a long time. the solution was not easy - I will not do an integrated knee block on the Bauer ... firstly, it takes a long time and with this project I have a sorely lack of time. secondly, these are the stiffnes pads I work with (except for my homemade pads, which were prior to Opt1k but interrupted). Bauer completely lacks torsion bending, and in general, in all parts of the core, they are stiffer than Opt1k. I lack the flexibility in the hips to make the pads even stiffer with an integrated knee block.

therefore, the traditional block-to-pad binding will be used, but with changes that reduce the excessive looseness of the block, which is inherent in 1S

the block will have a one-piece wrapper instead of three as traditionally

for this, I completely disassembled the component parts, separating the Velcro and the binding from the sliding platform

next, put the binding back on the sliding pad and sewed together with the former middle part of the block wrapper

then I made a new piece of nylon to compensate for the increased thickness of the knee block which will be the landing pad of my knee and sewed it to the front with an elastic band between them

I thought for a very long time how to fix the block on the pad as tightly as possible so that it would become as loose as possible

with a sliding pad it will be sewn into the skin and the back part is tied to the core with a standard pad lacing

for this I will need a valve on the inside of the block to bind to the pad

To do this, I took a piece of Velcro from one of the parts of the block and sewed first to the bottom of the sliding pad

 

after which he wrapped the lower part of the block with it and sewed it to the back of the casing

having received the required valve. cut off jenpro inserts reinforcing the anchor point of the building block

and made the right size

sewed the jenpro to the Velcro flap and cut it to size

and got a ready-made block of the desired design

 

to be continued

Edited September 3, 2021 by ser33

[creasecollector]

You are the gear whisperer. Another sweet set of posts.

[raidersgoalie]

This guys posts are riveting.  He leaves u wanting more. Like a movie.  

[ser33]

little progress

after the knee block, proceeded to the calf pillow. nameless calf pillow

it is unclear why Bauer came up with a separate name for her on Ultrasonic, although she was not a novelty. such were also on the previous lines of the Supremes. and on pads from other manufacturers. marketing is such marketing))

this pillow is located between the outer and inner shin protectors

inside thin LD foam covered with foam rubber on both sides

from OIpt1k, I still have pieces of foam in a funny pyramidal shape. which there were part of the core

cut it to fit the Bauer foam and adjusted the overall size

the total thickness turned out to be 4,5 cm

to compensate for the new thickness, I slightly altered the pillow cover

and attached Velcro to the outer shin protector

next in turn is the outer shin protection

from the side of the leg canal, it was covered with high-tech material 37.5, which had already been very badly worn

according to the description, the material 37.5 was supposed to maintain a certain body temperature and remove excess moisture from it

but in reality ...

high-tech material 37.5 was glued (!!!) to the usual LD foam, which was sewn to another foam of the same type, to which another honeycomb material was glued

that is, a material designed to remove heat and moisture was glued to a material that is a heat and moisture insulator by nature

 

When I had a test run of these pads, I really liked the CRS system. but the neoprene part of it was destroyed and cannot be restored

therefore, the pad mounting system will be changed. for this I cut off the elastic strap and added another Velcro strip to the outside

instead of high-tech but very destroyed material 37.5, I sewed ordinary Air Mash material along the border of the rubberized zone

I glued it a little to emphasize the surface relief and restore the seam on the bend

in the end, a binding-edging was sewn along the outer edge of the part

that's all for now

to be continued

Edited September 8, 2021 by ser33

[ser33]

When Bauer presented the new Od1n line, special emphasis was placed on the new skin, which is a one-piece molded piece without stitching. thus reducing the overall weight of the pad. it really is. since it is the outer parts that make up 3/4 of the pad's weight

 

since the core itself is very light

Edited September 10, 2021 by ser33

[ser33]

and sew again

a change in the dimensions of the core entails a change in the skin

laced the core and both skins together to determine the new dimensions

in comparison with Opt1k determined the new position of the knee block

and marked it on the core

also marked out the inner lining where changes were required. both in length and width

re-sewed and cut off the excess

removed the neoprene part of the CRS and repaired the seam

then removed the attachments for the belts and the external knee valve that I did not need

after which he proceeded to the most important thing - the restoration of CORTECH skin

but I will talk about this a little later, when the work on it is finished

Thank you for the attention

to be continued

 

 

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by ser33

[ser33]

stumbled across the internet

when "The Price is not Right"

[ser33]

work on this project consists not only in restoring the destroyed parts, but also in eliminating constructive solutions that proved to be not very productive and which led to the destruction of parts

one of these design flaws is the upper part of the pad, which was originally made thicker for greater rigidity, which resulted in a tucked CORTECH skin

When playing the butterfly, the top corners of the pads are inevitably prone to abrasion. and regardless of the model and manufacturer. top corners of my Opt1k

for Od1n, this was aggravated by both the design itself and the material of manufacture

Bauer quickly realized this problem and in later releases of the 1s line the top of the pad was thinned and covered with a Jenpro binding.

so I also made a thin upper part by sawing off the core

then proceeded to the most important part - CORTECH skin. Bauer's hell and paradise. extremely lightweight and sliding innovative material showed very low durability in places of bending loads

according to previously defined dimensions

I cut the boot from the main body of the skin

the main problem was the detachment of the CORTECH from the knitted base

which was glued again

the left boot was in much worse condition and even the knitted base was torn

had to glue on a piece of new fabric as a base

soft foam was glued to it for leveling

after which, literally piece by piece, the old base and the skin itself were glued onto the new base

the foam from the inside was also very destroyed

so it was removed and replaced with a new one

pad loops are glued to it

marked the new size and cut

to strengthen the skin in the place of subsequent stitching, a car protective pvc skin was glued

the cut off top of the skin had the same flaking CORTECH and inner foam problems, which were fixed in the same way

also the outer roll was cut for the new skin size

Finally, an additional drawstring loop has been added in the knee area for a more secure fit of the knee block

to be continued, do not switch))

[ser33]

moving

sewed the front of the boot and the rest of the skin

assembled a skin with a core to determine the angle of sewing of the side parts and marked

sewed the side parts. peeled off the protective pads and instead sewed pieces of jenpro to strengthen and protect the seams

after which he glued all the layers and added foam where it was missing

to be continued

[ser33]

work continues

pre-assembled to clarify the dimensions of all components

which showed that the boot on the core is smaller than on the skin. and smaller than Opt1k, which surprised me since the 1S is larger. also on one boot, someone cut off part of the material

so I pasted soft foam by folding it in half

and after assembly marked the new boot size

the skin had scuffs with the destruction of the internal foam caused by the friction of the core

to avoid this problem in the future, I glued soft foam to the corner part of the core

also drilled holes in the core for lacing which was missing

marked the new dimensions on the inner skin and cut off

then sewed the binding

and a velcro mate for attaching the knee block

took up the outer skin. to compensate for the increased bend over the knee, marked the place where the skin was sewn

removed the foam

and sewed

it turned out like this

marked out the new size and cut

after which I also sewed the binding on the outer skin

it took 15 minutes to write this post, but the work itself lasted over a week

the day of final assembly is getting closer

to be continued

[kohula]

Now I´m with my coffe and I´m enjoying your work. Well done, it´s very interesting. Hard to believe that´s handsewn

[ser33]

1 hour ago, kohula said:

Hard to believe that´s handsewn

nevertheless it is so))

not very even seams give out)))

Edited September 27, 2021 by ser33

[ser33]

assembly begins with sewing

in this project I am trying to fix some of Bauer's very strange technical solutions.

one of them is the non-hidden binding on the sliding side. which itself does not slide well and is subject to very fast and strong abrasion

you can understand its presence on the old school hybrid pads, but on the # 1 butterfly pad?

This decision seems even stranger compared to the previous Supreme pads that JRZ made for Bauer. the binding was hidden on them

in order to hide the binding, there are two ways, both of which are implemented both on the Supremes from JRZ and on modern models from other manufacturers

using my Opt1ks as an example, I will show them

the first is to close the binding with another piece

the second is to get rid of the binding altogether by making an inner seam

I did this on my Itech XP 4.8 which copied Supreme One 90 many years ago. I did the same with Od1n

the starting point was the seams under the knee on the front and back skin

then I sewed the lower parts along the pre-marked line

cut off the excess

it turned out like this

then sewed the parts over the knee while inserting the knee block in its place

twisted

fixed the knee block with Velcro (temporarily, for a photo)

and went to sleep)))

to be continued

[ser33]

in the next episode

another oddity was the location of the sliding leg support not flush with the side of the pad but recessed inward

By the way, not only Bauer distinguished himself so much. below is a photo of Brian's knee stack, which is also recessed inside

then it was believed that this position allows better sealing of ice

as I said earlier, the sliding support of the lower leg is made of molded plastic covered with CORtech and did not allow any global changes to it

so I just opened the sewing flap 90 degrees

cut off the excess

there are a lot of unnecessary things in this project that I cut off. (laughs)

sewed the binding to the bottom

made holes on the bottom platform

(as subsequent sewing showed - this was not necessary - it is pierced without serious effort with a needle)

and sewed right along the inside seam between the front and back trims

then sewed the flap to the back of the pad

and got it

since the profile of the core changed and the angle of the boot became close to 90 degrees, the profile of the shin support did not allow the lower part to be sewn onto the casing

What to do? Houston! we have a problem!

for this there is a simple and ingenious solution spied ... from Bauer!

sewn a short double elastic at the bottom

and then to the casing

incidentally discovered the separation of the toe bridge and sewed it

sewed the binding on the shin pillow. nameless shin pillow))))

and then her own place

the outcome

today we should try to do the same with the second pad

to be continued

[ser33]

Hello again

sewing is a creative process, which, in addition to time, also requires inspiration. over the past two weeks, I have had neither the one nor the other.

I only returned to it last Saturday. quickly sewed all the parts to the second pad and on Sunday began to move on

since the change in the slope of the boot also affected the outer protection of the lower leg, a double elastic was also sewn in the lower part

after which the shin guard was sewn into place

and...

assembly has begun!

pulled off a lace skin with a core

and started stitching the outer pieces through the binding

to be continued

Edited October 11, 2021 by ser33

[ArdeFIN]

There sure is a lot of length to sew by hand. 

But really nice work, hopefully it pays off.

Have you considered investing into a suitable sewing machine? Would be worth it...

[ser33]

10 hours ago, ArdeFIN said:

There sure is a lot of length to sew by hand. 

But really nice work, hopefully it pays off.

Have you considered investing into a suitable sewing machine? Would be worth it...

a suitable sewing machine that can sew pads is not cheap. using it for a couple of weeks a year is not a very profitable investment)) I don't do it all the time like you do. for me it's more like a small hobby, a way of rest and rebooting the nervous system with a change of activity) perhaps I like the process itself and like doing it by hand)

in any case, thanks for your appreciation of my work, from a master like you, this is the best compliment

[ArdeFIN]

11 hours ago, ser33 said:

a suitable sewing machine that can sew pads is not cheap. using it for a couple of weeks a year is not a very profitable investment)) I don't do it all the time like you do. for me it's more like a small hobby, a way of rest and rebooting the nervous system with a change of activity) perhaps I like the process itself and like doing it by hand)

in any case, thanks for your appreciation of my work, from a master like you, this is the best compliment

Thanks. Well not a master still, I'm just doing this for hobby and when I start some hobby I'm into it almost 100%. I haven't done any repairs for money so far but for friends and team mates and most of the repairs for myself.

I did invest to a sewing machine a lot of money to get a machine that I get things done with. This Pfaff I have is my second machine and still I would like to have something different before having to own two different machines. But still I have invested a lot, I mean a lot, more to the gear itself. And only counting the gear I'm using currently. And playing hockey is my hobby too.

The best part with that sewing machine is that it'll last my lifetime probably and when I'm done with sewing I still can sell it for some refund.

But don't take this as a advice, just telling you. I still have to and partly also want to do some sewing by hand. FrankenCCM to mention.

Keep up the good work, this really gives a rest to ones mind. As long as you don't do your daily work with the hockey gear repairing 

Edited October 12, 2021 by ArdeFIN