old G Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 This is nothing new. Since Adidas acquired Reebok they have been trying to sell the hockey division. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/adidas-plans-to-sell-ccm-hockey-brand/article34237314/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 42 minutes ago, old G said: This is nothing new. Since Adidas acquired Reebok they have been trying to sell the hockey division. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/adidas-plans-to-sell-ccm-hockey-brand/article34237314/ I believe that's part of the reason Reebok was removed as a brand. Makes it easier to sell. On a side note, how much more popular does CCM look now that Reebok is gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Reebok was pretty popular for player gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 i know its all the same gear but I would prefer CCM branded gear over Reebok just for nostalgia's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike24 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 On that note I'd prefer koho over the other 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I want Canadien back!!!! Of course for pure nostalgia's sake, I want Jofa back!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I don't mind all CCM at all. I meant without Reebok, Koho, Jofa, Titan, Canadian, Heaton, Etc... you realize how popular products from The Hockey Company are. With all the sub brands out there, it made CCM look smaller than they do today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike24 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Maybe it's just me but ccm wasn't a goalie brand in my youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Mike24 said: Maybe it's just me but ccm wasn't a goalie brand in my youth. Billy Smith was probably one of the most famous users of their blocker. They had more of a presence in goal sticks than anything. Cooper gloves were much more popular, then Brown and later Vaughn when it was JUST Mike Vaughn doing it all. Now- in the post moulded masque era- you saw CCM HT-2 helmets with HM-30 cages almost as much if not more than the SK2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, bunnyman666 said: Billy Smith was probably one of the most famous users of their blocker. They had more of a presence in goal sticks than anything. Cooper gloves were much more popular, then Brown and later Vaughn when it was JUST Mike Vaughn doing it all. Now- in the post moulded masque era- you saw CCM HT-2 helmets with HM-30 cages almost as much if not more than the SK2000. Fuhr wore it for awhile and obviously there was Heaton / CCM too In my head Koho by Leferve and CCM by Lefevre is pretty much the same. Reebok by Leferve will always be weird to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 9 hours ago, TheGoalNet said: Fuhr wore it for awhile and obviously there was Heaton / CCM too In my head Koho by Leferve and CCM by Lefevre is pretty much the same. Reebok by Leferve will always be weird to me I was really not fussed by Reebok, but knew all along that the name would have about a 10 year run max in the sport, kinda like Nike did. I remember when Nike took not one, but two stabs at cycling. The first stab was an abject failure, the second was better with Lance Armstrong as their star athlete; albeit the fact that the swoosh was just put on another company's gear was thinly disguised. Nike golf was a failure, as well. I think what was learnt was that sticking a popular shoe/apparel logo onto gear doesn't pay off in the long run. Just buy a brand, keep the name and heritage intact so if it doesn't work out, you can sell. It costs a lot to work a new name into the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 On 3/12/2017 at 8:55 AM, bunnyman666 said: I was really not fussed by Reebok, but knew all along that the name would have about a 10 year run max in the sport, kinda like Nike did. I remember when Nike took not one, but two stabs at cycling. The first stab was an abject failure, the second was better with Lance Armstrong as their star athlete; albeit the fact that the swoosh was just put on another company's gear was thinly disguised. Nike golf was a failure, as well. I think what was learnt was that sticking a popular shoe/apparel logo onto gear doesn't pay off in the long run. Just buy a brand, keep the name and heritage intact so if it doesn't work out, you can sell. It costs a lot to work a new name into the mix. I agree Nike has accepted their fate as a soft goods company. However... I always go back to the original Vapor skate. That was a ground breaking product. If Nike had made that the Nike line and kept Supreme as Bauer, I think we'd have a totally different hockey equipment world today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 9 hours ago, TheGoalNet said: I agree Nike has accepted their fate as a soft goods company. However... I always go back to the original Vapor skate. That was a ground breaking product. If Nike had made that the Nike line and kept Supreme as Bauer, I think we'd have a totally different hockey equipment world today I was not in the world of hockey when the Vapor skate was around, but I was watching from the outside. I was more or less lamenting the lack of Canadien, Winwell, etc. in the hockey stores at the time, lol. I still know a few who clamour for that Vapor skate. I know one who bought several pair when he knew that was his skate. He bought more when on clearance. This bloke is on his last pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayluv54 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Adidas is selling a lot of their equipment manufacturing...mainly hockey and golf. It appears to not be very profitable, not to mention adidas has been focusing on the apparel market, much like Nike has recently, that's where the money and growth are. They wanted Reebok to be their "fitness" brand as part of their growth strategy, they could careless about hockey. They tried to sell CCM a few years ago because it was operating at a loss, but they managed to turn it around and increased sales 18% from 2013-2015. In 2016, CCM was expected to be top dog in the skate and stick market, which should be the bread and butter of hockey equipment sales. Instead sales dropped 13% and was mainly attributed to skates and sticks flopping. May not seem like much, but when you consider the amount of R&D that goes into it, which is all cash, taking a hit like that is bad for business. Market conditions are not good for the hockey equipment world anyway, sales are declining 8% year over year in Canada alone and with retailers like TH filing for bankruptcy, I'm kind of curious to see where things are going. New Balance is private so I can't see how Warrior hockey is doing, but I'm curious if they've just been hanging out waiting to takeover, kind of like how they did with lacrosse in the mid 2000's when they acquired Warrior and Brine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 On 3/13/2017 at 8:44 PM, TheGoalNet said: I agree Nike has accepted their fate as a soft goods company. However... I always go back to the original Vapor skate. That was a ground breaking product. If Nike had made that the Nike line and kept Supreme as Bauer, I think we'd have a totally different hockey equipment world today The one with the clear cowling? What was so good about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 48 minutes ago, SaveByRichter35 said: The one with the clear cowling? What was so good about it? For the bloke I know, it was the boot. He always switched to a Tuuk Custom +. Yes- he was a player obsessed with the Vapor boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 8 hours ago, SaveByRichter35 said: The one with the clear cowling? What was so good about it? Players skate. Vapor from the late 90s was a game changer. It was the first light weight skate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 5 hours ago, TheGoalNet said: Players skate. Vapor from the late 90s was a game changer. It was the first light weight skate Ohhh ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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