TheGoalNet Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Can anyone here who is close to Maltese and EcoFoam explain any differences in the product? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 @TheGoalNet Are you talking mask kits or collars? In general the EcoFoam is lighter and softer. Mask kits are die cut to be a bit more precise with mask fit (see forehead and backplate pieces on the kit). The EcoFoam collar doesn't have the annoying "mullet" in the back and the velcro closure across the back of the neck is covered to prevent fraying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Chenner29 said: @TheGoalNet Are you talking mask kits or collars? In general the EcoFoam is lighter and softer. Mask kits are die cut to be a bit more precise with mask fit (see forehead and backplate pieces on the kit). The EcoFoam collar doesn't have the annoying "mullet" in the back and the velcro closure across the back of the neck is covered to prevent fraying. Is softer better? I’d imagine if something is too soft, it can’t fully dampen the impact of a shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aircanuck Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 9 hours ago, TheGoalNet said: Is softer better? I’d imagine if something is too soft, it can’t fully dampen the impact of a shot? Exactly. But...my wife can jump around on it without it spilling a drop from a glass of wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 On 11/6/2018 at 5:36 PM, TheGoalNet said: Is softer better? I’d imagine if something is too soft, it can’t fully dampen the impact of a shot? Chemical composition of both products allow it to spring back to its natural shape upon impact. Compare this to Poron or D30: Poron tends to absorb water/sweat very easily. On top of that, the padding changes its properties depending on its surrounding temperature. In warmer environments, it tends to become mushy. In cold temperature, it hardens. D30 stiffens upon impact. Personally, that’s not something I’d want going against my head. “Soft” is for comfort (commonly requested by Maltese users). Same protective properties. Maltese padded Otny masks passed HECC certification very easily (take that for what you will). I’d imagine they are working on cert for the Eco as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 Does Eco Foam have any actual impact testing to validate that 1/8” thick foam safety dissapates an 80 mph shot to the neck? Your point on mask foam is well taken on the mask foam and softness. I was thinking more about neck guards with my last question about softer. My own personal opinion is that safer will stem from a combination of materials. Ive been beyond impressed with VTX mask liner. I was initially a bit skeptical about the product. The Poron XRD is only used in sections an not anywhere it would uncomfortable touching the face hypothetically, something like D30 touching the mask shell and then Eco Foam bonded to D30 and touching your face would be a winning combo in my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, TheGoalNet said: Does Eco Foam have any actual impact testing to validate that 1/8” thick foam safety dissapates an 80 mph shot to the neck? Your point on mask foam is well taken on the mask foam and softness. I was thinking more about neck guards with my last question about softer. My own personal opinion is that safer will stem from a combination of materials. Ive been beyond impressed with VTX mask liner. I was initially a bit skeptical about the product. The Poron XRD is only used in sections an not anywhere it would uncomfortable touching the face hypothetically, something like D30 touching the mask shell and then Eco Foam bonded to D30 and touching your face would be a winning combo in my head I believe the collars use 1/8” thick high density foam backed by either 3/8” or 1/2” thick regular density. No empirical studies have been conducted to my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mroy31 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Definitely considering the EcoPro neck guard for the holidays. Have been trying to find a used Maltese in the meantime, but I guess people like them too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystery Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Does ecofoam have a website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwarnar Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Mystery said: Does ecofoam have a website https://goalieparts.com/ecoprofoam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystery Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 9:54 PM, cwarnar said: https://goalieparts.com/ecoprofoam So just off goalie parts then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpawtendy48 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Mystery said: So just off goalie parts then? Yes sir including masks and mask foam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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