havok Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 ***LONG SORRY**** Part 1- Background A bit of background: I am a career ball hockey goalie. Been playing for 20yrs now. Unfortunately never learned how to skate properly, but was always obsessed with the goalie position. As a ball hockey goalie, I always bought my pads, and gloves used, so I’d usually be 1-2 seasons behind the latest stuff. Fortunately, used gear sells pretty cheap so I get to play in cool gear and modify it to play ball hockey. As ball hockey got bigger and better, so did player gear and now goalie. DEK hockey is HUGE here in Quebec, and is taken pretty serious. Gear companies of course want to capitalize on this. Pad sliders are all the rage and now we have tons of people making custom sliders on pads, such as Kenesky, Passau and little guys all over the province. I myself was able to buy Warrior R/GT pads with sliders ( yes someone actually drilled holes in those pads) ANYWAYS now, you can buy “Ball Hockey Sets”. Gloves and pads, even chest protectors exclusively for ball hockey. My thinking is, unless the gear is built from scratch specifically for ball hockey, I do not see the need for this gear, honestly. There is so much used gear for sale that can be modified (there are many places that do it now), I do not see the point. But I’ve always been SO curious! During the Pandemic I was able to clean up some stuff and sell things I no longer needed. Which gave me just enough cash to give me the courage and take the risk in doing this. So, I went ahead and bought the Passau Starke Ball Hockey Glove. Next: Ordering! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebx Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Hi, i'm from Quebec too, All our clients are really happy with their dek hockey set and saw a big difference between their modified ice hockey equipment and the Passau dek hockey. The C/A is the piece who made the biggest difference with the glove. You really need to try to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colander Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, havok said: ... Unfortunately never learned how to skate properly,... Yeah, why do you think all of us on this forum are in net? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 Part 2- Ordering Ordering was super painless. I spoke to Miguel (whom I know well enough as he has sold me his Warrior gear). Fast response and great service. I ordered like the first day of June. I was quoted 4-6 weeks until delivery. Like clockwork, I got an email stating my glove was shipped on July 9th! So as a customer ordering a custom goalie product for the first time, it was really appreciated how efficient they were. I received the glove the following week: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 Part3- Unbagging: I am coming from a Warrior GT SR Glove, and I actually really like it. I’ve always been a Reebok guy . I would take the gloves and relace them etc. Pop ups for me were never a real concern, and never felt a goal went in because I was using an Ice Hockey glove even if it was made to catch pucks. The reason I ordered this glove is that apparently the glove has the “legal” specs of National and International Ball Hockey Associations. (CBHA, ISBHF WBHF). Which allows a larger catch surface than a normal glove (I am getting old so I’ll take any advantage I can get), and a deep pocket to keep the ball in there. It is also lighter (760g VS 888g), which I personally do not feel. More details: Pre-molded by hand V shaped deeper T-Trap T-Trap made with high resistance net Well ventilated hand Clarino micro fiber palm Wrist and hand straps Synthetic leather 1.4mm Built-in UHMW plastic gliding plates 60 degree glove Made in Canada So out of the bag it went! Please note these are all initial reactions - opinions, not to be condescending, I will not bash or put anything down. Just my little insignificant opinion. And well… it’s a glove LOL. It’s basically an ice hockey glove with a few mods, just like what I had suspected. It seemed well made, but no better than my Warrior glove. This is if course without trying it in a game so it may be amazing ... Now as I was looking at it, I felt as though something was missing… Ahhh yes, they forgot to put on the UHMW plates on the glove. So I emailed Passau, I got a response within minutes, very apologetic. They sent me a FEDEX waybill, and the next day I dropped it off at my local FEDEX depot and off it went… While it was frustrating, service was quick to fix, so super kudos to Passau for that. Sh*t happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 Part4- Unbagging Part deux The glove finally returned to earlier last week, so again a very quick and efficient customer service experience!! I of course am giving my critique based on initial feeling and opinions, and not having a game with the glove yet I did have a game last Saturday though. Back to the glove… One thing to keep in mind is that retail price for this is 420$ CDN. I personally would never have paid that straight out of pocket. Again, in my humble opinion, I think buying a used but good shape PRO glove for half (even often less) that cost, and then do mods to your specs is the better way to go. Again, not putting down anyone or saying it’s a rip off, just an opinion. I know these are made by hand etc. The glove is pretty stiff, and needs a lot of breaking in. Stiffer than a new Warrior and New Reebok Pro Retroflex (2 most recent new gloves I’ve broken in) The glove is not naturally round, but closes like a normal glove, I am sure a puck would catch fairly well in there The basket netting is a type of mesh, unsure if it is like Kenesky who use Lacrosse goalie mesh. The wrist strap is a soft material that I think may soak up a lot of sweat, I wear wristbands though, but it is something I will look into as I play Craftsmanship looks as good as any glove you’d by retail, so I am sure it’ll be durable. Part 5: In Game Use So as Mentioned, I played last Saturday, while it being stiff, felt comfortable. It did not feel lighter than any previous gloves I’ve worn. I made a few glove saves, and as advertised it went straight into the pocket and stayed there. I also noticed a few shots would hit the edge of the glove, more often than usual, is it the larger catching surface? Difficult to tell in one game, but I did have to be careful because it would make the ball go in front instead of miss the net. One MAJOR complaint I have, and this isn’t on PASSAU per se, I am a FULL LEFTY, meaning I do everything with my left hand, I throw, I catch, and I drink out of that hand. Because of the strapping, it was impossible to quickly remove my glove to take a sip of water or dry my face off in between whistles. With my other gloves, I didn’t have to unstrap all 3 sections to take my hand out. So either I learn to drink with my right hand real fast OR I try to mod it so I can do this. The wrist strap that had me worried does soak up a lot of sweat, and it gets kinda cold and wet LOL, but I just put my wrist bands and it was all good. So all in all, it is a decent enough glove, the mesh pocket does seem to have value to ensure less pop outs, the larger catching surface may actually help cover more net which in screen situations may be real help. It is built as well as any glove on the market out there, so I am sure it will have a long life. I only played one game, so of course I cannot fully judge it, that wouldn’t be fair, after a few weeks I may come back and say how much I LOVE it. But right now I do not see the justification of spending 500$ (after taxes and shipping) on a ball hockey specific glove, especially for someone at my level and age. I know they are building a semi-pro Dek Hockey league where players will be paid, so for a goalie that is that high up talent-wise and maybe sees a future (especially with an Olympic push), I would totally see why they’d want to invest in this type of equipment, Passau does great products, has amazing customer service, so as an athlete, you can trust them. I will update this review in a few weeks. Little note about last Saturday, Zach Fucale was my defenseman LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok Posted August 16, 2020 Author Share Posted August 16, 2020 So after 5 games: I have to admit that the glove IS am advantage over a regular ice glove. The bigger catching surface helps and the ball does go in neatly into the pocket. I made a few (lucky) glove saves while screened which I felt was helped by the glove. I also did a few sprawling stretched out saves and the ball went right into the pocket. The wrist strap is a major annoyance for me as a lefty. And I just don't tighten it. I may ask Passau how I can remove it without destroying the glove. Also it's still pretty stiff and longer to break in compared to other gloves. So overall a great Ball Hockey Glove if you play high level competition and want to take it seriously. I know the sport is exploding here and the younger goalies are so much better now, so they will take advantage of this gear. But for an old timer like me who plays mostly recreational (competitive but not meaningful) I still think 500 is expensive for ball hockey. Passau is great to deal with though and very good products. I'll update on a few months... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok Posted August 17, 2020 Author Share Posted August 17, 2020 ****Small note: I just checked the website and it seems the price has increased from 420$ to 505$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 On 7/22/2020 at 8:55 AM, Sebx said: Hi, i'm from Quebec too, All our clients are really happy with their dek hockey set and saw a big difference between their modified ice hockey equipment and the Passau dek hockey. The C/A is the piece who made the biggest difference with the glove. You really need to try to understand. You are a rep for Passau? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebx Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 minute ago, TheGoalNet said: You are a rep for Passau? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Just now, Sebx said: Yes Very happy to have you! If you don't mind, can you update your profile to include that info? That might help others out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebx Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 hours ago, TheGoalNet said: Very happy to have you! If you don't mind, can you update your profile to include that info? That might help others out Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxpower29 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 I know this is a bit old but my ball hockey gear also needs replacing. I have been buying ice gear for the month and am in a spendy mood. Wondering if anyone has a review on the full set of this including the chesty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Boiss Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Maxpower29 said: I know this is a bit old but my ball hockey gear also needs replacing. I have been buying ice gear for the month and am in a spendy mood. Wondering if anyone has a review on the full set of this including the chesty? I've been using a Passau chest protector for about a year now? Very mobile, but much more protective than my old Vaughn was. Only took a couple skates to break in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxpower29 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, CJ Boiss said: I've been using a Passau chest protector for about a year now? Very mobile, but much more protective than my old Vaughn was. Only took a couple skates to break in. Was looking at the ball hockey one though. Is that what you mean? Their one on the web site looks more bulky than l my old Heaton Helite one lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebx Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 The ball hockey C/A is not bulky, less than the ice C/A but design to take a lot of space, especially in the shoulder area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxpower29 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 39 minutes ago, Sebx said: The ball hockey C/A is not bulky, less than the ice C/A but design to take a lot of space, especially in the shoulder area. Thanks. Thinking about getting one. Trying to figure out sizes. I might order two and send one back that doesn't fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebx Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Maxpower29 said: Thanks. Thinking about getting one. Trying to figure out sizes. I might order two and send one back that doesn't fit. What is your height ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxpower29 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Sebx said: What is your height ? Around 5'10 5'11. I use a medium for ice hockey but a lot of chestys don't fit me well in the arms. I have slightly longer arms that normal it seems. But Large usually seems to be too large. But the worst fitting one i ever had was a Bauer reactor 9000 pro size medium. Was so tight in the arms and couldn't stretch them. Made the straps all loose and ended up falling on my elbow, cut it, got infected, was a disaster. So some medium doesn't fit me well. Best fitting one is what i have now. A medium VE8 pro carbon. I also use my ball hockey super loose though and use a dangler for neck protection when it droops I also like to ramble on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebx Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 I would say a large. I'm 5'9 and my ice C/A is a large chest with medium arm. Our chest are usually shorther than other because the neck line is higher than most. The sizing is the same for the ball hockey C/A. I just tried a large to confirm, the arm a little long for me but they are adjustable, it can be shortened by 1 inch. Your best bet is a large in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxpower29 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Ok i don't usually worry about arm length too much in ball. I usually cut out a small bit of the forearm piece anyways. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxpower29 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 On 3/7/2021 at 6:32 PM, Sebx said: I would say a large. I'm 5'9 and my ice C/A is a large chest with medium arm. Our chest are usually shorther than other because the neck line is higher than most. The sizing is the same for the ball hockey C/A. I just tried a large to confirm, the arm a little long for me but they are adjustable, it can be shortened by 1 inch. Your best bet is a large in my opinion. Just bought the large. Can't wait to try on. Also couldn't decide on other gear so I bought a set of the sliders to install on my other plans pads i have. Will make a review when i use them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxpower29 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Came today. First impressions are man this thing is light. At the same time it's close to too big for ball hockey but just right. Looks like it takes up a lot of space in the net. Still can't believe how light it is. Coming from this old as hell Heaton one it doesn't even weight more and is double the size. Just trying it on now because we are on pause in our ball hockey league's. But I think i will like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebx Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Glad you like the product How is the fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxpower29 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Sebx said: Glad you like the product How is the fit? Fits good for a large i think. I still need to try my gear on and see. Bought the pad slider things too I'm installing now to try so I've been busy all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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