Punisher Goalie Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just curious if anyone else has experimented with different blade/holder heights and can give some insight. Since I started buying good gear for myself, I have operated on the assumption that I want the tallest blade/holder height for two reasons: 1. Because I'm only 5'8" and I want to give myself some extra height, and 2. More importantly, to give me as much attack angle help as possible for butterfly slides. I'm currently in CCM Tacks with Step Steel Extreme. I certainly feel like the help with the attack angle makes me quicker with my sliding, but as my technique is getting better, I am starting to question reason #1. First, I'm worried that the extra 1/2" or so is making me feel unstable on T-pushes, etc. I was a pretty strong skater as a player (new to goalie now), but I'm having a very difficult time adjusting to where I can get the "crisp" movements while standing up. I also feel like I need to get extremely low in my stance in order to feel "set" with the tall blades and wondering if normal size blades would help me feel closer to the ice. Anyone have any experience switching? I still have the never-sharped black steel that came with my Tacks so I'm thinking maybe I will take those out for a try soon. Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I ran regular Step on Reebok Cowlings. When I went to Vaughn cowlings (originally with Vaughn skates), the stock blades were way too short, then went with regular Step and it was okay, then went Extreme and found the sweet spot. It all depends on cowling/holder. If it would have been me, I would have gone to regular Step FIRST, then gone with Extreme if I found my attack angle was still lacking. For me on the Vaughn cowling, the Extreme was perfect, on the Reebok cowls, the regular Step was perfect. Do you go to public sessions with your tall blades? I would highly recommend doing as many public sessions with those. I have a feeling that your stock blades will be too short for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostender Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I can't comment on changing blades etc, but I would say that if you are playing a modern style adding a half inch to your skates probably has never helped you with regards to your first point. Your height in net is determined by either (a) your stance when you are up, and (b) your knee stack and CA floater thickness when you are down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher Goalie Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 6 hours ago, bunnyman666 said: I ran regular Step on Reebok Cowlings. When I went to Vaughn cowlings (originally with Vaughn skates), the stock blades were way too short, then went with regular Step and it was okay, then went Extreme and found the sweet spot. It all depends on cowling/holder. If it would have been me, I would have gone to regular Step FIRST, then gone with Extreme if I found my attack angle was still lacking. For me on the Vaughn cowling, the Extreme was perfect, on the Reebok cowls, the regular Step was perfect. Do you go to public sessions with your tall blades? I would highly recommend doing as many public sessions with those. I have a feeling that your stock blades will be too short for you. 3 hours ago, Ghostender said: I can't comment on changing blades etc, but I would say that if you are playing a modern style adding a half inch to your skates probably has never helped you with regards to your first point. Your height in net is determined by either (a) your stance when you are up, and (b) your knee stack and CA floater thickness when you are down Thanks for the responses. Obviously I want to keep as much help with the attack angle as I can, but I want to feel more comfortable on my feet too. Since I have the stock steel for my Tacks, I probably won't be able to resist at least experimenting with it. Longer-term question will be what to do with my next pair of skates - I really want a custom fit pair of VH/True. Just not sure whether to go with 1-piece (the more neutral pitch and one-piece performance is so attractive) or 2-piece for more versatility (I can change steel, holder if I want). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I'd go two piece, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher Goalie Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 I’m having a very hard time deciding, especially considering I can’t demo them. I’d like to go with the one piece, but my lack of confidence in the lower attack angle is bothering me. With the two piece at least I know I would have the option to change the holder and steel if I wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 My biggest reasoning is god forbid it breaks, you'll need a whole new skate. At least if a holder breaks you can just replace that. @Tim_TRUEHockey has stated that they've never had a problem at the NHL level so its unlikely any of us would either. Its still a chance I wouldn't wanna take though. I'll tag you in Tim's thread regarding the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I say two piece, though I think you already said that's the direction you're going. I am over the moon with my VH skates for the most part. I had a freak accident that made me go back to a cowling, but that is a very minor criticism. The skate itself is fab! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher Goalie Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 Completed my order and paid today Production time current 4-5 weeks. Pickup session today my skates were KILLING me. Going to be a long wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Congrats @Punisher Goalie - I hope you enjoy @Tim_TRUEHockey - please make sure the folks at True know we've got quite a few users on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_TRUEHockey Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 On 9/25/2017 at 9:11 PM, TheGoalNet said: Congrats @Punisher Goalie - I hope you enjoy @Tim_TRUEHockey - please make sure the folks at True know we've got quite a few users on here! Thank you! Sorry I've been away. As always, feel free to also email me with questions - Tim.McCarthy@TrueTemper.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher Goalie Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Long shot but does anyone have the One100 vertex cowling and can take a height measurement? Maybe at toe, heel, and mid-foot? Trying to decide whether to stick with the True holder or put on One100s with extreme step. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mik Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 22 hours ago, Punisher Goalie said: Long shot but does anyone have the One100 vertex cowling and can take a height measurement? Maybe at toe, heel, and mid-foot? Trying to decide whether to stick with the True holder or put on One100s with extreme step. Thanks! I have that cowling, will take the mesures. Just to be sure, this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher Goalie Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 6 hours ago, mik said: I have that cowling, will take the mesures. Just to be sure, this? Yes exactly! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mik Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 20 hours ago, Punisher Goalie said: Yes exactly! Thanks! Toe 4,2 cm, midfoot 4 cm and heel 5,1 cm. Measured without steel, only plastic. All in cm, not inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher Goalie Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 Interesting. I measured from the bottom of the outsole on the Trues to the bottom of the plastic and got 3.5 cm toe, 6.5 cm midfoot, and 6.3 cm heel. That’s a pretty big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mik Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 When I went from older Graf to Bauer 100 some years ago, I was surprised how the heel position was high. Looks like Trues are even more high at heel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Punisher Goalie said: Interesting. I measured from the bottom of the outsole on the Trues to the bottom of the plastic and got 3.5 cm toe, 6.5 cm midfoot, and 6.3 cm heel. That’s a pretty big difference. Holy forward pitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAngle41 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 hour ago, TheGoalNet said: Holy forward pitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher Goalie Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 9 hours ago, TheGoalNet said: Holy forward pitch! It only sounds that dramatic because I was measuring to the end of the plastic, which is curved up at the toe. When measuring from the bottom of the boot to the steel, the difference between toe and heel is only 1.5 cm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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