RichMan Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) I'm just going to jump into the thick of things with the goalies. So at the top we have Price, who is still unfit to play. We have Allen who is pushed into the #1 spot. Then, rising from the bottom (Rockets) we have Primeau, McNiven, Poulin, another cat I don't know and can't remember his name right now, and they just grabbed UFA Montombant from the Panthers. Now I honestly don't see Poulin sticking around much in either teams. Can't speak for the "forgotten" one since I haven't seen him play. McNiven should IMO have a shot with the Habs for exposer and practice. Primeau is still their darling Price replacement project as I see it. Don't know where Montombant will fit in. So when Price is finally clear to play, Jake will go back to his original role, but where does that leave the crop down in Laval? Has Montreal complicated things for the Rockets? Edited October 5, 2021 by RichMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 If we're just talking about the season as a whole, it's going to be a dumpster fire. The Habs karma train is spent after last seasons cinderalla run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 4 hours ago, coopaloop1234 said: If we're just talking about the season as a whole, it's going to be a dumpster fire. The Habs karma train is spent after last seasons cinderalla run. Whats the dumpster fire comment based on? Are you sad this Mocumentary should have just been named "Nothing: Toronto Maple Leafs" https://www.primevideo.com/detail/All-Or-Nothing-Toronto-Maple-Leafs/0F73RAEE0NUHJGLATFW5J055SQ Or they should they have called it Titanic 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 50 minutes ago, netminder said: Whats the dumpster fire comment based on? Are you sad this Mocumentary should have just been named "Nothing: Toronto Maple Leafs" https://www.primevideo.com/detail/All-Or-Nothing-Toronto-Maple-Leafs/0F73RAEE0NUHJGLATFW5J055SQ Or they should they have called it Titanic 2? Man, your trolling sucks lol. I'm the opposite of a leafs fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 42 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: Man, your trolling sucks lol. I'm the opposite of a leafs fan. AND your reading sucks lol. You never actually answered my question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted October 6, 2021 Author Share Posted October 6, 2021 What I saw against the Leafs tonight is a bunch of crap. Anything we had going up to the finals last season has gone and died. Some trades did not do us well in preserving a possible go at the cup again this season. Toronto played a solid game. Montembeault held his own despite the loss. Shot differential between both teams was absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 11 hours ago, RichMan said: What I saw against the Leafs tonight is a bunch of crap. Anything we had going up to the finals last season has gone and died. Some trades did not do us well in preserving a possible go at the cup again this season. Toronto played a solid game. Montembeault held his own despite the loss. Shot differential between both teams was absurd. LOLexhibition Not one thing is gone until it matters, wow. What about when the Habs plastering the Leafs just over a week ago? Its LOLexhibition. They lose by a lot then they win. Thats the nature exhibition games. AHL goalies, AHL Dmen, etc all getting their say. I can't tell if you're Habs fan or not here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 13 hours ago, netminder said: AND your reading sucks lol. You never actually answered my question. lol, you're on my case for ducking questions? I don't think I'll ever get tired of your nonsense netminder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted October 6, 2021 Author Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, coopaloop1234 said: lol, you're on my case for ducking questions? I don't think I'll ever get tired of your nonsense netminder. I think we're gonna have some "issues" with this new guy/gal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_shifty1982 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 hours ago, netminder said: LOLexhibition Not one thing is gone until it matters, wow. What about when the Habs plastering the Leafs just over a week ago? Its LOLexhibition. They lose by a lot then they win. Thats the nature exhibition games. AHL goalies, AHL Dmen, etc all getting their say. I can't tell if you're Habs fan or not here. Are you delusional? You actually think the Habs have a good team? You realize when covid hit they were 24th in the NHL? Didn't make the playoffs the previous 2 years? Last season they finished 4th and Calgary 4 points behind. In a regular season they are destroyed. Nice what they did in the playoffs and all but don't be blind to what they are, a none playoff team. You need to retool and free up all that cap space with Price 10.5 million who plays like a 5 million dollar goalie during the regular season. They don't have enough, period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, mr_shifty1982 said: Are you delusional? You actually think the Habs have a good team? You realize when covid hit they were 24th in the NHL? Didn't make the playoffs the previous 2 years? Last season they finished 4th and Calgary 4 points behind. In a regular season they are destroyed. Nice what they did in the playoffs and all but don't be blind to what they are, a none playoff team. You need to retool and free up all that cap space with Price 10.5 million who plays like a 5 million dollar goalie during the regular season. They don't have enough, period. Im pretty sure Montreal is the ONLY Canadian team to play in the playoffs the last "2 seasons" in a row and the ONLY Canadian based team to make a STanley Cup final in the past decade. You and your beer league buddys can hate all you want, spin it what ever way you want too, but EVERY SINGLE Canadian based team is far far less successful over-all. Hang on to your regular season stats or LOLexhibitions, im glad your Leafs or your McDavids get paid for a regular season pay cheque, thats ALL they are worth, period. Edited October 6, 2021 by netminder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 hours ago, coopaloop1234 said: lol, you're on my case for ducking questions? I don't think I'll ever get tired of your nonsense netminder. Waiting on the whats so dumpster fire.... Unless you're a genuine Lightning fan, im 99.9% sure you dont have a leg to stand on here until proven otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 minute ago, netminder said: Waiting on the whats so dumpster fire.... Unless you're a genuine Lightning fan, im 99.9% sure you dont have a leg to stand on here until proven otherwise I said it's going to be a dumpster fire. As in a prediction. You know what speculating is right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, netminder said: Ithe ONLY Canadian based team to make a STanley Cup final in the past decade. Vancouver Canucks - 2011 Edited October 6, 2021 by coopaloop1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, mr_shifty1982 said: Are you delusional? You actually think the Habs have a good team? You realize when covid hit they were 24th in the NHL? Didn't make the playoffs the previous 2 years? Last season they finished 4th and Calgary 4 points behind. In a regular season they are destroyed. Nice what they did in the playoffs and all but don't be blind to what they are, a none playoff team. You need to retool and free up all that cap space with Price 10.5 million who plays like a 5 million dollar goalie during the regular season. They don't have enough, period. One more thing. Lets address "plays like a 5 million dollar goalie too" for sec. Im completely baffled where that comes from. Im sure you are unaware of this and maybe you could care less, but up until the 2021 season, Carey Price was named the TOP GOALIE voted on by all the players in his NHL. The very same opponents, his peers, etc. he shuts down day in and day out. Not only was he #1 voted in 2018, but 2019, and 2020 too!. He didnt win for the first time in 4 years but STILL finished votes in the top 3 best goalie in the league by said peers in 2021. He plays like he should be the highest paid goalie every single season of his career and he will help win our Team Canada win gold next February. The 2nd BEST Canadian born goalie isnt even remotely close to as good or reliable nor should many other goalies be paid in the 10 million range other then Vasy now. Edited October 6, 2021 by netminder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: Vancouver Canucks - 2011 Techinically untrue. 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 Here's the past decade of finals without anyone but the Habs representing Canada.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 hours ago, netminder said: Techinically untrue. 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 Here's the past decade of finals without anyone but the Habs representing Canada.... Sure why not. It's not like the difference between splitting hairs between 10 and 11 years is that big of a talking point. Though, if you want to get technical, the qualifying round games of the 2020 playoffs is recognized as playoff games. So now you're looking at Edmonton seeing two consecutive rounds of playoffs appearances, Winnipeg with four, and Toronto with five! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, coopaloop1234 said: Sure why not. It's not like the difference between splitting hairs between 10 and 11 years is that big of a talking point. Though, if you want to get technical, the qualifying round games of the 2020 playoffs is recognized as playoff games. So now you're looking at Edmonton seeing two consecutive rounds of playoffs appearances, Winnipeg with four, and Toronto with five! Your assessment of the qualifying round is incorrect. The "qualifiers" were not playoffs, nor are they historically connected to playoffs, stats or anything but a subsidised round of games for those who were not mathematically eliminated from a playoff spot in the standings yet. So no, the other Canadian teams have done nothing. Montreal, by all means, is easily the MOST succesful Canadian team in the past 2 straight seasons, and by a lot, and thats a written fact and data proven. Edited October 6, 2021 by netminder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, netminder said: Your assessment of the qualifying round is incorrect. The "qualifiers" were not playoffs, nor are they historically connected to playoffs, stats or anything but a subsidised round of games for those who were not mathematically eliminated from a playoff spot in the standings yet. So no, the other Canadian teams have done nothing. Montreal, by all means, is easily the MOST succesful Canadian team in the past 2 straight seasons, and by a lot, and thats a written fact and data proven. The league even stated they're counted as playoffs. https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-nhlpa-ratify-cba-extension-return-to-play/c-317377156 Quote Statistics For statistical purposes only, all games from the 2020 Stanley Cup Qualifiers (round robin and qualifying rounds) are considered part of the 2020 postseason. Accordingly, all skater/goalie/team statistics accumulated in these games will be included in the 2020 player and team postseason stats. Achievements from these games and series will be included on Records.NHL.com. Teams participating in a best-of-five series during the Stanley Cup Qualifiers are considered to have made the postseason and participated in a postseason series. What was that about "thats a written fact and data proven" ? Edited October 6, 2021 by coopaloop1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_shifty1982 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 hours ago, netminder said: One more thing. Lets address "plays like a 5 million dollar goalie too" for sec. Im completely baffled where that comes from. Im sure you are unaware of this and maybe you could care less, but up until the 2021 season, Carey Price was named the TOP GOALIE voted on by all the players in his NHL. The very same opponents, his peers, etc. he shuts down day in and day out. Not only was he #1 voted in 2018, but 2019, and 2020 too!. He didnt win for the first time in 4 years but STILL finished votes in the top 3 best goalie in the league by said peers in 2021. He plays like he should be the highest paid goalie every single season of his career and he will help win our Team Canada win gold next February. The 2nd BEST Canadian born goalie isnt even remotely close to as good or reliable nor should many other goalies be paid in the 10 million range other then Vasy now. Voted by the nhl lol, voted #1 blah blah, damn you are delusional. The Habs SUCK, that contract also stop them from a rebuild. Price couldn't beat the Wings 2 seasons ago where again, they finished 24th in the NHL, again, no playoffs the previous 2 years, you hearing this? They haven't made the playoffs in an 82 game season in how long? I been following the NHL for 28 years, my buddies don't like hockey, I live in reality unlike yourself. You still thinking of Price from 6-8 years ago, he's not IT anymore. Wake up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted October 6, 2021 Author Share Posted October 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, mr_shifty1982 said: Voted by the nhl lol, voted #1 blah blah, damn you are delusional. The Habs SUCK, that contract also stop them from a rebuild. Price couldn't beat the Wings 2 seasons ago where again, they finished 24th in the NHL, again, no playoffs the previous 2 years, you hearing this? They haven't made the playoffs in an 82 game season in how long? I been following the NHL for 28 years, my buddies don't like hockey, I live in reality unlike yourself. You still thinking of Price from 6-8 years ago, he's not IT anymore. Wake up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insertnamehere Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, netminder said: One more thing. Lets address "plays like a 5 million dollar goalie too" for sec. Im completely baffled where that comes from. Im sure you are unaware of this and maybe you could care less, but up until the 2021 season, Carey Price was named the TOP GOALIE voted on by all the players in his NHL. The very same opponents, his peers, etc. he shuts down day in and day out. Not only was he #1 voted in 2018, but 2019, and 2020 too!. He didnt win for the first time in 4 years but STILL finished votes in the top 3 best goalie in the league by said peers in 2021. He plays like he should be the highest paid goalie every single season of his career and he will help win our Team Canada win gold next February. The 2nd BEST Canadian born goalie isnt even remotely close to as good or reliable nor should many other goalies be paid in the 10 million range other then Vasy now. I think you're overlooking MAF. https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/frozenpool_comparegoalie.php?players[]=1236&players[]=806&period=2020-2021%3AR%3A99 Edited October 7, 2021 by insertnamehere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 11:47 AM, coopaloop1234 said: If we're just talking about the season as a whole, it's going to be a dumpster fire. The Habs karma train is spent after last seasons cinderalla run. I think it's safe to say you guys can call me Nostradamus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chile57 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) ... but that's only because the world's greatest goalie ever of all time by written fact and data proven Carey Price hasn't played a minute yet. Once he does - they'll automatically become Canada's standard bearer for all things hockey. Does that sound right? Asking for a friend... 14 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: I think it's safe to say you guys can call me Nostradamus Edited November 15, 2021 by chile57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, chile57 said: ... but that's only because the world's greatest goalie ever of all time by written fact and data proven Carey Price hasn't played a minute yet. Once he does - they'll automatically become Canada's standard bearer for all things hockey. Does that sound right? Asking for a friend... Sounds spot on. How could I ever properly argue against such incriminating data? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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