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Got to try on an Axis 2.9 pieces at the Pure Hockey in Lynnwood (Seattle) last weekend.

Glove (591, game ready, no finger stalls): The lack of finger stalls is actually kind of comfy from an off-the-shelf concept, cannot speak to using it. The strapping is nice and works totally fine to keep your hand in there. Th glove closes like a complete piece of shit, and by that I mean not at all. Off-the-shelf closure is super important to me and (I have tendonitis, no exaggeration, I could not close it at all. I am at the point where I don't understand why anyone would buy this after trying it on.

Blocker: I don't have much to say about the blocker. I'm not a fan of the spandex material Bauer and CCM are using for finger gussets (the 2.9 doesn't have the D30 in the index finger).

Pads: Pads are fine, I remain unconvinced by SpeedSkin as a sliding material. The design philosophy on stiffening the landing stack works, strapping felt good (especially their implementation of the calf bracket strap). The knee block is much less able to flop around than the Axis 1, the calf pillow is substantial.

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1 hour ago, keeperton said:

Got to try on an Axis 2.9 pieces at the Pure Hockey in Lynnwood (Seattle) last weekend.

Glove (591, game ready, no finger stalls): The lack of finger stalls is actually kind of comfy from an off-the-shelf concept, cannot speak to using it. The strapping is nice and works totally fine to keep your hand in there. Th glove closes like a complete piece of shit, and by that I mean not at all. Off-the-shelf closure is super important to me and (I have tendonitis, no exaggeration, I could not close it at all. I am at the point where I don't understand why anyone would buy this after trying it on.

Blocker: I don't have much to say about the blocker. I'm not a fan of the spandex material Bauer and CCM are using for finger gussets (the 2.9 doesn't have the D30 in the index finger).

Pads: Pads are fine, I remain unconvinced by SpeedSkin as a sliding material. The design philosophy on stiffening the landing stack works, strapping felt good (especially their implementation of the calf bracket strap). The knee block is much less able to flop around than the Axis 1, the calf pillow is substantial.

I honestly wonder if CCM changed who is making their senior and retail stock lines after the Lefevre breakup.

Every non-custom CCM glove I have tried on since the split has been garbage

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1 hour ago, Chenner29 said:

I honestly wonder if CCM changed who is making their senior and retail stock lines after the Lefevre breakup.

Every non-custom CCM glove I have tried on since the split has been garbage

Not 100% but I think EF4 was built in China while Axis, EF5 and Axis 2 are built in Vietnam.

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2 hours ago, Chenner29 said:

I honestly wonder if CCM changed who is making their senior and retail stock lines after the Lefevre breakup.

Every non-custom CCM glove I have tried on since the split has been garbage

I genuinely don't understand why people buy this stuff. I live in a hockey void (greetings from Oregon) and some of the kids I coach and other goalies I play in adult league with will get these gloves and have these issues. I've had junior gloves on my hand that are engineered like complete trash and are uncloseable even with two hands (like, at best part of it comes together but there's no seal). All the Bauer gloves I've tried on have felt nice, the Vaughn gloves nice but stiff, and the (I am biased) Brian's gloves have always worked wonders for me. Closest convert glove for me thus far has been the Hyperlite, haven't gotten to try a Mach on.

I've had an Axis 1 game ready 590 on my hand that was broken in and it could close, but it was still stiffer than my propalm glove. Additionally, I've had a 590 propalm EF5 on my hand and could close it too, the glove was a beat in practice glove for Gianuzzi (Winterhawks) that one of my students got, so it's been broken in nice.

I really feel like they're coasting on brand recognition here and their CHL deals.

53 minutes ago, ZeroGravitas said:

Not 100% but I think EF4 was built in China while Axis, EF5 and Axis 2 are built in Vietnam.

Pure Hockey has it as Vietnam for Axis, Axis 2, Axis 2.9, EF5, EF5.9, then China for EF4 products.

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22 hours ago, ZeroGravitas said:

Not 100% but I think EF4 was built in China while Axis, EF5 and Axis 2 are built in Vietnam.

 

21 hours ago, keeperton said:

Pure Hockey has it as Vietnam for Axis, Axis 2, Axis 2.9, EF5, EF5.9, then China for EF4 products.

But which country's food is better?????

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I genuinely don't understand why people buy this stuff. I live in a hockey void (greetings from Oregon) and some of the kids I coach and other goalies I play in adult league with will get these gloves and have these issues. I've had junior gloves on my hand that are engineered like complete trash and are uncloseable even with two hands (like, at best part of it comes together but there's no seal). All the Bauer gloves I've tried on have felt nice, the Vaughn gloves nice but stiff, and the (I am biased) Brian's gloves have always worked wonders for me. Closest convert glove for me thus far has been the Hyperlite, haven't gotten to try a Mach on.

I've had an Axis 1 game ready 590 on my hand that was broken in and it could close, but it was still stiffer than my propalm glove. Additionally, I've had a 590 propalm EF5 on my hand and could close it too, the glove was a beat in practice glove for Gianuzzi (Winterhawks) that one of my students got, so it's been broken in nice.

I really feel like they're coasting on brand recognition here and their CHL deals.

Kinda playing devil's advocate here.  I worked retail when the RBK P1 first hit.  The gear sold EXTREMELY well because a lot of pros either started wearing it or were pushed into it.

I don't know if the demand was too big to keep up, but both Lefevre and CCM were pumping out P1 gear, I guess due to unprecedented demand what whatnot. 

You could tell where the gear came from because the embroidery on the CCM stuff was done in some weird cursive font.  The Lefevre stuff kept with the block font that we've come to know and love. 

On the store stock, they embroidered the size; on the custom stuff, it was usually the customer's name if they opted for it.  I wanna say they changed embroidery locations too?  No idea why they opted for the change to keep appearances up.

The QC on the CCM stuff was trash, but this was particularly evident in the gloves.  No two gloves closed the same, and this was when the company was only offering two breaks (580 and 590).  At this time, we were carrying the CCM lines too - I think this was around the time the Blockade/Gatekeeper lines were running, before it transitioned into the Xpulse/V10.  Despite being made in Canada, none of the CCM branded gloves closed well at all.

Where I'm going with this - I kind of wonder if this is a CCM thing now that Lefevre isn't there to push the importance of a nice closing glove.  Who knows. I've tried on a current Axis and Eflex 5.  I wanna say both were tagged as 590 breaks but I could not tell based on feel alone as they did not feel like any 590 break I can remember. 

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5 hours ago, Chenner29 said:

But which country's food is better?????

 

Kinda playing devil's advocate here.  I worked retail when the RBK P1 first hit.  The gear sold EXTREMELY well because a lot of pros either started wearing it or were pushed into it.

I don't know if the demand was too big to keep up, but both Lefevre and CCM were pumping out P1 gear, I guess due to unprecedented demand what whatnot. 

You could tell where the gear came from because the embroidery on the CCM stuff was done in some weird cursive font.  The Lefevre stuff kept with the block font that we've come to know and love. 

On the store stock, they embroidered the size; on the custom stuff, it was usually the customer's name if they opted for it.  I wanna say they changed embroidery locations too?  No idea why they opted for the change to keep appearances up.

The QC on the CCM stuff was trash, but this was particularly evident in the gloves.  No two gloves closed the same, and this was when the company was only offering two breaks (580 and 590).  At this time, we were carrying the CCM lines too - I think this was around the time the Blockade/Gatekeeper lines were running, before it transitioned into the Xpulse/V10.  Despite being made in Canada, none of the CCM branded gloves closed well at all.

Where I'm going with this - I kind of wonder if this is a CCM thing now that Lefevre isn't there to push the importance of a nice closing glove.  Who knows. I've tried on a current Axis and Eflex 5.  I wanna say both were tagged as 590 breaks but I could not tell based on feel alone as they did not feel like any 590 break I can remember. 

On food: easy, depends on one's mood.

 

I'm mostly being rhetorical when asking who buys it/why, though your additional thought is appreciated. I too remember the time when the Reebok Premiers first debuted and it was ubiquitous. I didn't think it was without merit, but it was never "for me" back then.

I've mostly felt that CCM was producing relative garbage on the retail consumer level for awhile now. What I mostly notice is how hard they push all their technologies/R&D promotional materials and utilize influencers/regular marketing deals. If I really want to be critical here: I've gotten to behold custom Axis 1 stuff, it was incredibly unimpressive (the knee stack was floppier than the guy's previous Subzero 3 pads, it had almost no integrity) and the broken in glove was still stiff. The custom EF3, EF4, and EF5 were all measurably better, gloves still super stiff after being well broken in and the blocker palms rather worn/pilled. I don't really understand how they're still chugging along beyond brand recognition at this stage; CCM lost nearly every NHL goalie they had when the Lefevre team left (Markstrom, Rittich, Demko, Skinner). Something isn't right here.

I do think it's a joke that goalies in the CHL have to adhere to one of three brands due to deals with the league, specifically because it's during incredibly formative years for them. 

 

TL;DR Their pads are fine enough, their catch gloves are absolute dogshit and I think they're only skirting by because they can throw their marketing weight around. I don't get off on a company failing, I'm baffled that their catchers are truly this bad; I shouldn't be laughing as a gut reaction to trying one on in a store.

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5 hours ago, keeperton said:

On food: easy, depends on one's mood.

 

I'm mostly being rhetorical when asking who buys it/why, though your additional thought is appreciated. I too remember the time when the Reebok Premiers first debuted and it was ubiquitous. I didn't think it was without merit, but it was never "for me" back then.

I've mostly felt that CCM was producing relative garbage on the retail consumer level for awhile now. What I mostly notice is how hard they push all their technologies/R&D promotional materials and utilize influencers/regular marketing deals. If I really want to be critical here: I've gotten to behold custom Axis 1 stuff, it was incredibly unimpressive (the knee stack was floppier than the guy's previous Subzero 3 pads, it had almost no integrity) and the broken in glove was still stiff. The custom EF3, EF4, and EF5 were all measurably better, gloves still super stiff after being well broken in and the blocker palms rather worn/pilled. I don't really understand how they're still chugging along beyond brand recognition at this stage; CCM lost nearly every NHL goalie they had when the Lefevre team left (Markstrom, Rittich, Demko, Skinner). Something isn't right here.

I do think it's a joke that goalies in the CHL have to adhere to one of three brands due to deals with the league, specifically because it's during incredibly formative years for them. 

 

TL;DR Their pads are fine enough, their catch gloves are absolute dogshit and I think they're only skirting by because they can throw their marketing weight around. I don't get off on a company failing, I'm baffled that their catchers are truly this bad; I shouldn't be laughing as a gut reaction to trying one on in a store.

Both CCM and (at least older) Lefevre gloves suck. I've tried them on in stores. By contrast, I was able to close the Bauer Reactor 3 the first time I used it, even though it was stiff. Granted, it's an old glove, but it says something if a glove from 2010 does better than a 2015 glove, or even a 2019 one out of the box.

I'll have to see what newer Bauer, Vaughn, or Warrior gloves out there. It's a shame, but Brian's stuff is above my budget, even with Sideline Swap. 

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5 hours ago, ilyazhito said:

Both CCM and (at least older) Lefevre gloves suck. I've tried them on in stores. By contrast, I was able to close the Bauer Reactor 3 the first time I used it, even though it was stiff. Granted, it's an old glove, but it says something if a glove from 2010 does better than a 2015 glove, or even a 2019 one out of the box.

I'll have to see what newer Bauer, Vaughn, or Warrior gloves out there. It's a shame, but Brian's stuff is above my budget, even with Sideline Swap. 

I've found recent Bauer and Warrior gloves are really good off the shelf (I've found Warrior to be the sleeper best stock glove), Vaughn always take a little work but are consistent and do exactly as expected (as in if you liked Vaughn ever, you still will).

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On 7/21/2022 at 1:08 AM, keeperton said:

I genuinely don't understand why people buy this stuff. I live in a hockey void (greetings from Oregon) and some of the kids I coach and other goalies I play in adult league with will get these gloves and have these issues. I've had junior gloves on my hand that are engineered like complete trash and are uncloseable even with two hands (like, at best part of it comes together but there's no seal). All the Bauer gloves I've tried on have felt nice, the Vaughn gloves nice but stiff, and the (I am biased) Brian's gloves have always worked wonders for me. Closest convert glove for me thus far has been the Hyperlite, haven't gotten to try a Mach on.

I've had an Axis 1 game ready 590 on my hand that was broken in and it could close, but it was still stiffer than my propalm glove. Additionally, I've had a 590 propalm EF5 on my hand and could close it too, the glove was a beat in practice glove for Gianuzzi (Winterhawks) that one of my students got, so it's been broken in nice.

I really feel like they're coasting on brand recognition here and their CHL deals.

Pure Hockey has it as Vietnam for Axis, Axis 2, Axis 2.9, EF5, EF5.9, then China for EF4 products.

My P2 pro glove, not the best, stiff AF.  lefevre built that. 

My Axis game ready is like butter and love it.  Too much hate for no reason. 

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2 hours ago, mr_shifty1982 said:

My P2 pro glove, not the best, stiff AF.  lefevre built that. 

My Axis game ready is like butter and love it.  Too much hate for no reason. 

Is your Axis stock or custom? My impression is that custom products, especially those for the pros, are better than the stock products in terms of materials and quality. 

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2 hours ago, ilyazhito said:

Is your Axis stock or custom? My impression is that custom products, especially those for the pros, are better than the stock products in terms of materials and quality. 

All custom. But why would it be any different if it comes from the same factory most likely. 

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In lieu of doing an initial impressions/review thread:

Only two skates in. I like the gear. It feels good. Rotation and pad seal is great. I appreciate the S-curve coming from Mach.

But rebound performance is lacking. I got MaxRebound in mine and I swear, it plays like an EFlex. I've had shots off the thigh and the boot just die a foot away from the pad.

Minor stitching issues out of the box on the blocker and catcher. But that's just me being nitpicky,

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2 hours ago, ZeroGravitas said:

In lieu of doing an initial impressions/review thread:

Only two skates in. I like the gear. It feels good. Rotation and pad seal is great. I appreciate the S-curve coming from Mach.

But rebound performance is lacking. I got MaxRebound in mine and I swear, it plays like an EFlex. I've had shots off the thigh and the boot just die a foot away from the pad.

Minor stitching issues out of the box on the blocker and catcher. But that's just me being nitpicky,

How is the glove closing/quality wise?

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