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guess this counts?

There's some now? Typical to NCSN, I think there 1 game a week on ESPN and 1 on ABC now that football over.

I am a Flyers fan living in Chicago and I Didn't give 2 shits about that game. Shame on the NHL for televising garbage in a game of the week. The fact that Florida and Colorado are the best 2 teams in the league doesn't probably help. If NYR goes deep in the playoffs, ratings should be okay? Scoring is way up and hockey is exciting for casual fans. It's on ESPN. This makes no sense...

great feedback if @wvuviv30 is going custom though, he can order Hyperlite flex, stabiliflex kee, and 100 deg boot. That will be very close to HL, but with the updated features of the Mach

I got May 17th, but same difference probably...

35+1.5"

At a high level, and with having some direct access to helmet designers in multiple industries, heavier helmets are better at absorbing impact. @Chenner29 This is not proper science, but I know you have PC mask. Is it the 960-esq one? If so, what does it weigh? I will weight my 960 and VTX too. Also to your point about shell shape, the PC / Vaughn model is the 960 style and not the Mrazek style. So that's another mask in the spirit of the Wright family tree that performed well... But CCM and VTX are aggressive are didn't perform as well, so to me it comes back to... Weight & Padding thickness probably are the biggest factors to tests like these. Weight = Absorbtion Padding thickness = braking distance

If it's not from that lab, it's not relevant.

My set is in... will get some pics going. Got them ahead of the tech explanation, so still have to keep details close to the vest. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CceXd7xvg77/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link https://www.instagram.com/reel/CcbnnO7D32m/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link https://www.instagram.com/reel/CcYdBOvtsQr/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Not saying I am right, but it's a discussions someone in the mask industry had with me and it stuck.

Agree 100% on this. Generally speaking it's basic helmet design theory... Heavier helmets perform well in safety testing. No one wants a heavy helmet. Bauer and CCM are looking to solve what athletes are asking for with lightweight performance. The "hand made NA crowd" is focusing on proven basics with heavier designs. It's exactly the same as comparing a Bauer pad to a True pad. Hot Take - The Onezee might be the safest helmet in hockey? I am guessing that thing weighs a ton and it has a lot of surface area.

Agreed, I attended an NFL Helmet Challenge event. The NFL is leaning into this, maybe forced by a lawsuit, and the NHL is doing the bare minimum they can to cover their ass Vicis has won 2 of last 3 NFL tests. They have a soft shell aka a giant crumble zone. Would love to know if that concept would be applicable to goalie masks. That is the type of the outside the box thinking I would love to see tested.

Believe All Out might have a floating start date at this point, not sure if it's 100% confirm for the launch of Axis. Anyone who works in a shop have a date?

One could argue a cage should bend and be treated as a consumable? think about crumple zones on a car

I agree they can and should do more, but I can appreciate a step in the right direction.

Cody Porter is not correct. I had 2 mask companies verify the data is fresh as of Monday of this week. I also asked a couple North American pro goalies I know and they still to do this day had not been presented with the data. As you can see in the graphic, some testing was completed in 2019 and that data might have been leaked or shared in small tidbits… but no fully concluded study or graph like that was reported

Yea, I don’t think another mask at that price point was tested. I don’t think another mask at that price point was tested. With that said, if you assign a dollar value to each mask on here, it’s pretty interesting… V6 is an outstanding value? Bauer 960 won in the ram test for a straight shot and was middle of the road after that. At $900 that’s a deal compared with the $1800+ Pro’s Choice? Victory V8 performed well all around is $800, again major savings Vs the best?

I was told everyone only received the PDF above, I don’t think that there was a lot of background data like you might expect to see with academic paper. I think some of the challenge and what you are asking for is how you define “acceptable”? This whole testing process started because the NHL was alarmed at the rise in NHL goalie concussions. Considering nobody can properly define a correlation between helmet safety and concussions, it’s literally impossible to define “good enough“ In comparison with the NFL, they’re latest helmet safety challenge basically encouraged start ups to try and create a helmet that was 20% safer than any of the current products on the market. So by the NFL’s definition, the baseline year-over-year should be last year’s safest helmet and everybody better come to the table the next year with a better helmet.

Nope, this is truly a leak from a confidential source. To my knowledge, this was not a path to go public

Couldn’t agree less on this yeah, it’s not perfect. But someone did independent testing. It’s a major freaking start! what does the same shell performing significantly different with three liners tell us? everyone needs to stop obsessing over the shell and realize that the liner is just as important adding thicker foam basically creates extra breaking distance between the puck energy and your brain. I can tell you that the major mask companies absolutely know how to create a safer helmet. The problem is that it would probably make you look like a bobble head and no one wear it. our own tendencies of how we want to look or what feels right playing goal is a major limiting factor toward safety

Bauer has a production issue. Their pads require a machine for assembly, it’s not like other brands with cutting and sewing. They add another machine, sales spike, and it would create too much of a bottleneck to add +1 on the customizer. Eventually, they will get there

At the moment, the plan is to follow the skates Custom = Made in Canada Stock Retail = Off Shore There will be a 12.1 Custom and a 12.1 Stock basically

Can you post a pic please?