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Impressive, yes. Is it a good thing for Warrior and Warrior customers if they are not busy enough to warrant long wait times? There's a reason we don't see their gear on TV (sticks aside) and I think that may very well correlate to why you can get gear from them super fast. It may, just as well, not correlate at all. But, it's possible. Let me stress, this is not me hating on Warrior by any means.

Nice, looking good. That's a nice logo on that jersey.

I was hoping you'd scream at those Sharpies I'll send you a private message.

Great topic, thanks for posting this. I placed an order in 2018 with Vaughn for pads and gloves on July 19th and got the gloves on September 19th and the pads in the third week of November. Aside from my order and more generally, something I wonder about with custom wait times is this: the relevance of volume of orders vs. efficiency of a manufacturer. So right now if company A has a wait of 1 month and company B has a wait of 3 months, it's easy to say that company B is busier so the longer wait is completely justified. But, it could also be the case that company A and B are equally busy, but A is just more efficient than B. This obviously has to do with number of people on staff building gear, material availability, time of year, etc. I just wonder how much of wait time is determined by order volume vs. output capability. I would love to see insider info on how many custom orders each company has piled up relative to their potential output as a company with X number of employees. I totally understand the thought that "wait times are way too long" as a customer, but from the manufacturers' perspective, the question is how are those wait times justified.

Look what showed up at work today , just in time for my weekly pickup game tonight. Super impressed with the build and structural rigidity so far. The fiber on the inside is really nice to see and I'm even impressed with the sweatband, which is normally a disappointment out of the box, stock. This cage makes me so happy and the overall shape is great. The backplate clipping for the harness seems very foreign as a lifelong Bauer guy, but I'll adjust soon, I'm sure. Fits great right off the bat too after a minor chin cup adjustment to make it longer. The one disappointment is the pouch it comes in. No handle and very thin. I have an extra padded Bauer bag so that'll be this Sportmask's new home. Now, how should I paint it with these Sharpies??

Short aside....I spy some VE8 pads. Please show a pic

The mask itself and the padding are separate things and each have their own integrity. But, they work together as a duo and the padding will break down and dry out way quicker than the mask itself, all things being equal. A lot of masks can be prolonged with new padding so long as the mask isn't chipped or cracked or broken.

Ha. Best , most relevant gif in many months. Much love

I use to bus all the time, too, prior to having a car. Crazy questions around Seattle , a city not so savvy with hockey equipment, generally: - is that equestrian gear? -how many bodies you got in there? -are you on a swat team? -what's that weird crap? -do you play for the Thunderbirds? (No, I'm not 17, thanks). -are you an NHL player? (Yeah, I play for the Sharks. We play the Canucks tonight.....it's gonna take a while, but I'll get there.)

I'd look so good in my car with your mask

Orange Subaru Crosstrek

Ha, that's fantastic. I love it: it works on TV in the NHL, I'll do it too. P.s. also as on TV, get that kid in some Vaughn gear.

Aww, man. That's the best. I would be jumping up and down if my kid had goalie month this month. Keep us posted on how he does. I'll never have kids of my own, but I have always if I did, and he/she didn't want to play hockey, I'd be so bummed out and clueless what to do for fun. Haha.

Well it's not like they had to cut and sew anything. I don't feel bad for them. They just manipulate a bunch of lines and hit Print

More coming, McKenna is now a Flyer. (Sorry about the double post on this text....my computer glitched out. )

More coming: McKenna is now a Flyer

The only insight I have is from when I had to return my recent pads to Vaughn for repairs. I was on the phone with a rep there and I asked him how long it would take to have them back. He told me about a week, including shipping time. I was then curious, so I asked him how long it would take for a new set of gloves and pads if my name was Tuukka. He said with specs on file already " about a day to measure and cut materials" and " another day for sewing and building and then overnight shipping."

Wow, look how high those pads are sitting. He might have magnetic opposites on his skate and pad boot.

Thanks! I think it only works if the adjacent color is the same as the roll color. I think the white on darker colors helps give more continuity too. I'm really enjoying them.

Ha, yeah. Sorry man. I blame this scandal on Vaughn's lack of clearly defined glove lineage with every new V# causing us to go "now what?" every time.

Tonight we found a Happy New Year tiara on the bench left by the figure skaters before us. I couldn't resist.

I wonder what the motive is behind this. Is it to maximize the visibility of the current graphic/gear? It clearly isn't due to actual capability.

Nice. Those were on Sidelineswap, eh? They caught my eye. Nice Vaughns, too. Love your blues. I love my new Vaughn navy/baby blue gear.

So you're making an argument saying some content is fair game to replicate because it is too general. That's fine and the more specific lines in the sand we can draw to determine if scenarios A, B, C....are fair or not is crucial. My point is that if you have something specific to show an artist and you say " copy it" it doesn't matter what the content is.....until we have specific lines drawn in the sand like your rebuttal calls for. Right now, we don't have those lines defined or drawn. Allen's mask is interesting because it looks blank, but it's not. It's specificity is subtle and vague, the opposite of Potvin's. The principle is the same: here's this mask. Copy it directly. That's wrong. I agree that principle calls for a sort of "public domain" debate. Like , say, only stripes down the face of a mask. That's "public" enough, I'd argue. Allen's mask is more than that while apparently not with the specificity of Potvin's , in a way. Move away from masks with this and onto pad graphics and we aren't dealing with the same amount of detail or specificity. What then? We have to establish the greater principle first, which is : asking to "copy this" .....right or wrong? Then we hash out scenario specific details.

That is all true and besides the point of your question. Allen's mask was a design by an artist painted by an artist. It's this, followed by a request to specifically copy it, that conjures up ethical, and perhaps legal concerns. Buying a cage or stickers and putting them on a blank mask isn't the same thing. It is an interesting question if a design is so minimal and subtle that multiple designers come to it simultaneously. Then what? But when a design goes out there clearly in advance of a request to copy it, that's potentially problematic ethically and/or legally.