Awgoalie164 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 First off the padding and material in the intermediate and senior lines aren't the same at all. I have a Warrior Ritual G2 Intermediate Chest Protector and have been hit multiple times in multiple different places all hurting. These places include the ribs, the shoulder, the collar bone next to my neck, the side of the arm, the front of the arm, and the neck. I would never ever recommend Warrior to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakal Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Sorry for you. Did you try to readjust it, play with the straps, make it tighter or looser? If the straps at the upper back are too loose, it may opens up the collar part on the front and expose it. Is it the right size for you? Having opening at the ribs and arms may be a sign that the unit is too small or too big for you (if your straps are tighten well). I have the Pro Ritual Classic and never been hurt in it. I'm 5'9" and 210 lb and I wear medium size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I mean, you're using a kid's C/A. I wouldn't expect it to be in line with the senior. Are you using the correct sized chest protector? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayluv54 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I used to use Warrior swagger goalie pants and recently used a Sr. set of G3 pads and gloves for a month. Had 0 issues with protection/durability. Also, understand that C/A's are a funny thing. I have a Vaughn V6 2200 Pro Carbon in s/z Medium and get dinged up all the time, most likely because I wear it snug to my body, so you might be surprised by what you can and will feel in a chest protector. Don't know how old you are, but as coop eluded to, Intermediate is a kids size and thus made to only withstand young shooters. Don't be mistaken by the SIZE of a unit, Sr. level and Pro level are all that's generally recommended for 16 and up. I would even argue that kids younger than that can give you a good pop in a pro level chesty these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mik Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Agree with jayluv54, it is about who you play against. Got a chance to train with players in age of maybe 14-16 from the top category for few days this summer. Those boys can shoot like I never imagine they could, glad to have Pro C&A, when they occasionaly hit me - instead of top corners :D. In my opinion intermediate gear is not just about size, because it is not designed for play against senior players (padding etc.), maybe on realy low category of players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 20 hours ago, Awgoalie164 said: First off the padding and material in the intermediate and senior lines aren't the same at all. I have a Warrior Ritual G2 Intermediate Chest Protector and have been hit multiple times in multiple different places all hurting. These places include the ribs, the shoulder, the collar bone next to my neck, the side of the arm, the front of the arm, and the neck. I would never ever recommend Warrior to anyone. Can you share what level of shooter you are playing against? Maybe a pic of you in the unit to see if there are fit issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I betcha buddy doesn't return to comment on his thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 You better believe it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 7 hours ago, coopaloop1234 said: I betcha buddy doesn't return to comment on his thread. He's just a kid. I agree there's a lesson to be learned about not ripping on things needlessly... but let's make sure we are still making him feel welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 hour ago, TheGoalNet said: He's just a kid. I agree there's a lesson to be learned about not ripping on things needlessly... but let's make sure we are still making him feel welcome! I had to restrain myself from being myself here. Poor kid kinda ended up learning a lesson at his expense. I was in my 30's when my lesson was learnt; I hope he is a bit younger by the time he learns his. At least it wasn't a dogpile by a bunch of old men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostender Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Well, unfortunately for the OP, it's his or her loss if he/she doesn't return. I think even in the short life this thread has seen (to the point of this post) you guys offered up some gold on what his possible issues may be with the gear. We all vent about stuff (I'm the president of my own fan club) but if people are offering possible solutions or at least input to your situation and you choose to ignore it, man, you're gettin' nowhere fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 22 hours ago, Ghostender said: Well, unfortunately for the OP, it's his or her loss if he/she doesn't return. I think even in the short life this thread has seen (to the point of this post) you guys offered up some gold on what his possible issues may be with the gear. We all vent about stuff (I'm the president of my own fan club) but if people are offering possible solutions or at least input to your situation and you choose to ignore it, man, you're gettin' nowhere fast Some people take criticism as a personal attack, and they take any opposing viewpoint as criticism. I hope this is not the case. It is shocking for someone who had a poor experience and thought other would feel the same to hear defense after defense of same product maker. I do hope the youngster returns, maybe having learnt a lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostender Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 The OP stated “First off the padding and material in the intermediate and senior lines aren't the same at all. “ Well, yes, that’s how this stuff works. I will add we are only speculating the OP is a youngster based on the assumption of size (intermediate CA). That alone doesn’t necessarily equal age (ask me or FR ) I have to assume the OP is probably out of high school. Why? Because usually up to the end of HS parents pay for the gear, (although there are exceptions - present company included) and if you haven’t paid for it, you usually don’t care that much if it’s a wash- no pennies out of your pocket. But again, too bad the OP doesn’t join back in – could probably get a lot of good advice here. Strange to post a 1 entry rant and never return – gotta wonder why… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 @Awgoalie164 - come back, no one intended to be mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 1 hour ago, TheGoalNet said: @Awgoalie164 - come back, no one intended to be mean! @Awgoalie164 I want you back, as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awgoalie164 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 On 7/20/2017 at 8:27 AM, TheGoalNet said: Can you share what level of shooter you are playing against? Maybe a pic of you in the unit to see if there are fit issues? Im playing against varsity and junior varsity and no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awgoalie164 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 On 7/19/2017 at 1:10 PM, chakal said: Sorry for you. Did you try to readjust it, play with the straps, make it tighter or looser? If the straps at the upper back are too loose, it may opens up the collar part on the front and expose it. Is it the right size for you? Having opening at the ribs and arms may be a sign that the unit is too small or too big for you (if your straps are tighten well). I have the Pro Ritual Classic and never been hurt in it. I'm 5'9" and 210 lb and I wear medium size. Ya I did I've done it with every single strap and it's been about ? 2 years sense this has started now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awgoalie164 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 On 7/19/2017 at 1:32 PM, coopaloop1234 said: I mean, you're using a kid's C/A. I wouldn't expect it to be in line with the senior. Are you using the correct sized chest protector? Yes I am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awgoalie164 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 On 7/19/2017 at 1:48 PM, jayluv54 said: I used to use Warrior swagger goalie pants and recently used a Sr. set of G3 pads and gloves for a month. Had 0 issues with protection/durability. Also, understand that C/A's are a funny thing. I have a Vaughn V6 2200 Pro Carbon in s/z Medium and get dinged up all the time, most likely because I wear it snug to my body, so you might be surprised by what you can and will feel in a chest protector. Don't know how old you are, but as coop eluded to, Intermediate is a kids size and thus made to only withstand young shooters. Don't be mistaken by the SIZE of a unit, Sr. level and Pro level are all that's generally recommended for 16 and up. I would even argue that kids younger than that can give you a good pop in a pro level chesty these days. Yes this is true however I'm 13 and facing varsity and college level shots and I'm too small for Senior and pro at the moment so it's a HUGE problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awgoalie164 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 On 7/20/2017 at 0:53 AM, mik said: Agree with jayluv54, it is about who you play against. Got a chance to train with players in age of maybe 14-16 from the top category for few days this summer. Those boys can shoot like I never imagine they could, glad to have Pro C&A, when they occasionaly hit me - instead of top corners :D. In my opinion intermediate gear is not just about size, because it is not designed for play against senior players (padding etc.), maybe on realy low category of players... Ya but what about goalies like me who are too smal for Senior and pro but need that level of protection??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awgoalie164 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 On 7/22/2017 at 10:52 AM, Ghostender said: The OP stated “First off the padding and material in the intermediate and senior lines aren't the same at all. “ Well, yes, that’s how this stuff works. I will add we are only speculating the OP is a youngster based on the assumption of size (intermediate CA). That alone doesn’t necessarily equal age (ask me or FR ) I have to assume the OP is probably out of high school. Why? Because usually up to the end of HS parents pay for the gear, (although there are exceptions - present company included) and if you haven’t paid for it, you usually don’t care that much if it’s a wash- no pennies out of your pocket. But again, too bad the OP doesn’t join back in – could probably get a lot of good advice here. Strange to post a 1 entry rant and never return – gotta wonder why… Not really. I'm 13 and playing 10 hours of hockey a week right now. I have to get up at 5:30 AM and stay the whole day at the rink. When I finally do get home I put my stuff away, take a shower, and go to bed. I don't have enough time to be checking everything all of the time. Hockey is my life and future. I will use the site when I need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mik Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Awgoalie164 said: Ya but what about goalies like me who are too smal for Senior and pro but need that level of protection??? Understand you. That is the common problem when younger goalie plays/train e.g. with senior or college players. His gear is significantly smaller and can not absorb the impacts. But if you don´t fit even to small senior/Pro size, oversized gear is not way to go. You can try reinforce some problemattic places, but real solution is that older players do not shoot with full force in practice on younger goalie. Some of their shots are realy hard even for senior goalies in pro gear . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyGrips13 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Of course getting a custom unit from someone like Passau, Brown or Battram would be a solution. They could build top level protection into an intermediate size chest protector. A young woman I know got a Passau CA because she was having similar issues. She loves hers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mik Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 You are right WilllyGrips13, custom C&A can fix the problem . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayluv54 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Awgoalie164 said: Ya but what about goalies like me who are too smal for Senior and pro but need that level of protection??? Tough spot when your in between sizes bud. Have to go custom or find someone who can mod what you have or alter the smallest pro model you can find until it fits. You can trim areas of padding that might be too large and/or shorten arms if you get creative enough. Trust me, you play this position long enough and your always going to be messing with your gear, even when you can fit into and buy whatever you want. Even the pros do it. My advice to you if you can't get something else would be to go buy some foam, even a sleeping mat in the camping section of Walmart works good, and start gluing and sewing. Another idea would be to get yourself a good roller hockey padded shirt and wear it underneath, adds a decent buffer and extra padding. If you want help with this, a lot of us on here have been where you are and beyond and can help if you ask. We can show you how to add/trim padding and how to add eyelets and lacing to C/A arms to shorten them. This site is a wealth of experience and knowledge, "use" it as you see fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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