Madmedic6 Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 (edited) Please let me start with this is intended for informational purposes and is not to sway anyone from one brand to another. With the release of the ef6 and vapor 90, both being full hand 580 style gloves I wanted to do a comparison of the faces, shapes both opened and closed, back hand strapping, and how they play. The True 580... The glove that set the standard. The strapping is as to be expected. The recent change to Velcro pinky and thumb adjustment is pleasant, set and forget. The pass through of the wrist strap through the cuff makes for easy tightening without having to dig for the strap or binding. I will say that their pro palm is lacking in the protection area. But the glove closes like butter! The internal sure grip gets tacky when sweating making it easy to grip. Range of motion is decent. The pro palm protection is lacking. If reordered I'd go with pro extra to get the same level as ccm pro palm. The CCM 580... While similar to the true 580 there are some subtle differences. The backhand has slightly different connections. Minor changes in the backhand. Glove face is almost a spitting image of the true in presentation and a face angle. The CCM still retains the external pinky string adjust. The wrist strap also passes through the cuff making for easy tightening. Range of motion is similar to the True, but I feel the cuff isn't as open as the true. Pro palm protection is great as it has d30 in addition where true you have to do pro extra for the same. Then there's this contraption... The ef6.. This glove as come wins and losses.. First off I will say that the range of motion is by far the best of all 4 of these gloves! The cross x strap with the newly segmented cuff make for easy articulation without interference. The thumb face however is a downfall. This thing is almost flat and has caused quite a few picks to bounce out as opposed to being funneled in. Protection of the pro palm is great. The lack of finger stalls puts alot of unwanted stress on your pinky and index finger when closing the glove. The new to retail vapor 90.. Finally! Bauer has brought and option to try and level the playing field, sort of. First I will say that the glove closure feels more like a gnetik folding instead of a curve closure. The back hand is ridiculously tight in the back of your hand when closing, not to my liking. The back hand strapping is very similar to the ccm and true. But the wrist strap is not as pleasant as the ccm or true. Bauer retained the traditional external pinky strings. The internal liner is comfortable but 2 games back to back it starts to feel a little slippery in the fingers. Range of motion is again meh, but not as good at the true. Pro palm with dtc in the palm still leaves some to be desired. After multiple weeks of skates and being tied and stretched, this thing is still stiff! Sorry for the quick bullet points. I will try to get measurements and face/thumb angles soon. Edited November 16 by Madmedic6 Added info on the ef6 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 (edited) True still looks like the kings of the 580's. Which isn't surprising. Though, just based off of these pictures, it looks like Bauer comes in second for closure and quality. CCM just looks to be in a rough spot overall for their catchers. Couple that with some of the questionable quality concerns CCM has been garnering, I genuinely have concerns they're going to rebound any time soon. The same question pops up since the Lefebrve split: "What does CCM bring to the table to differentiate itself as a manufacturer?" Edited November 16 by coopaloop1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmedic6 Posted November 16 Author Share Posted November 16 25 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: True still looks like the kings of the 580's. Which isn't surprising. Though, just based off of these pictures, it looks like Bauer comes in second for closure and quality. CCM just looks to be in a rough spot overall for their catchers. Couple that with some of the questionable quality concerns CCM has been garnering, I genuinely have concerns they're going to rebound any time soon. The same question pops up since the Lefebrve split: "What does CCM bring to the table to differentiate itself as a manufacturer?" I mean honestly, for me it's going to be the customization on the CCM leg pads differentiates themselves. That being said, their blockers are thinner and lighter than trues are now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 8 minutes ago, Madmedic6 said: I mean honestly, for me it's going to be the customization on the CCM leg pads differentiates themselves. That being said, their blockers are thinner and lighter than trues are now Fair enough. I am pretty biased when it comes to my overall impression/opinion on the CCM/True products. So my take on it isn't great if we're being objective lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyGrips13 Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 Based on the title, I honestly thought this was going to be a thread about 1990s goalies or maybe the best 1990s sitcom. Needless to say I am disappointed. Felix Potvin Full House Anyway… 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmedic6 Posted November 17 Author Share Posted November 17 3 hours ago, WillyGrips13 said: Based on the title, I honestly thought this was going to be a thread about 1990s goalies or maybe the best 1990s sitcom. Needless to say I am disappointed. Felix Potvin Full House Anyway… Sorry to disappoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyazhito Posted November 17 Share Posted November 17 8 hours ago, Madmedic6 said: Please let me start with this is intended for informational purposes and is not to sway anyone from one brand to another. With the release of the ef6 and vapor 90, both being full hand 580 style gloves I wanted to do a comparison of the faces, shapes both opened and closed, back hand strapping, and how they play. The True 580... The glove that set the standard. The strapping is as to be expected. The recent change to Velcro pinky and thumb adjustment is pleasant, set and forget. The pass through of the wrist strap through the cuff makes for easy tightening without having to dig for the strap or binding. I will say that their pro palm is lacking in the protection area. But the glove closes like butter! The internal sure grip gets tacky when sweating making it easy to grip. Range of motion is decent. The pro palm protection is lacking. If reordered I'd go with pro extra to get the same level as ccm pro palm. The CCM 580... While similar to the true 580 there are some subtle differences. The backhand has slightly different connections. Minor changes in the backhand. Glove face is almost a spitting image of the true in presentation and a face angle. The CCM still retains the external pinky string adjust. The wrist strap also passes through the cuff making for easy tightening. Range of motion is similar to the True, but I feel the cuff isn't as open as the true. Pro palm protection is great as it has d30 in addition where true you have to do pro extra for the same. Then there's this contraption... The ef6.. This glove as come wins and losses.. First off I will say that the range of motion is by far the best of all 4 of these gloves! The cross x strap with the newly segmented cuff make for easy articulation without interference. The thumb face however is a downfall. This thing is almost flat and has caused quite a few picks to bounce out as opposed to being funneled in. Protection of the pro palm is great. The lack of finger stalls puts alot of unwanted stress on your pinky and index finger when closing the glove. The new to retail vapor 90.. Finally! Bauer has brought and option to try and level the playing field, sort of. First I will say that the glove closure feels more like a gnetik folding instead of a curve closure. The back hand is ridiculously tight in the back of your hand when closing, not to my liking. The back hand strapping is very similar to the ccm and true. But the wrist strap is not as pleasant as the ccm or true. Bauer retained the traditional external pinky strings. The internal liner is comfortable but 2 games back to back it starts to feel a little slippery in the fingers. Range of motion is again meh, but not as good at the true. Pro palm with dtc in the palm still leaves some to be desired. After multiple weeks of skates and being tied and stretched, this thing is still stiff! Sorry for the quick bullet points. I will try to get measurements and face/thumb angles soon. Awesome! It's good to see a fellow silly sider showing off the gear. I wonder why Bauer is über-stiff. Usually it is the cheap Lefebvre gloves that are so stiff as to be unusable. I'll keep that it mind if I do look to buy a FR 580 glove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmedic6 Posted November 17 Author Share Posted November 17 Just now, ilyazhito said: Awesome! It's good to see a fellow silly sider showing off the gear. I wonder why Bauer is über-stiff. Usually it is the cheap Lefebvre gloves that are so stiff as to be unusable. I'll keep that it mind if I do look to buy a FR 580 glove. Lefevre is probably the best feeling glove materials wise as Bauer feels the cheapest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike24 Posted November 17 Share Posted November 17 16 hours ago, WillyGrips13 said: Based on the title, I honestly thought this was going to be a thread about 1990s goalies or maybe the best 1990s sitcom. Needless to say I am disappointed. Felix Potvin Full House Anyway… Pearl Jam Nirvana I was about it too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethanallen Posted November 17 Share Posted November 17 I wasn't even born yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted November 17 Share Posted November 17 16 hours ago, WillyGrips13 said: Based on the title, I honestly thought this was going to be a thread about 1990s goalies or maybe the best 1990s sitcom. Needless to say I am disappointed. Felix Potvin Full House Anyway… Potvin v Hextall 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chile57 Posted November 17 Share Posted November 17 I'm with @WillyGrips13 and others and while this is super useful content - I was ready to take a trip down Nostalgia Lane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyazhito Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 On 11/16/2023 at 9:43 PM, Madmedic6 said: Lefevre is probably the best feeling glove materials wise as Bauer feels the cheapest. I had a pair of low price point Lefebvre Reebok gloves, and they were impossible to open and close properly even after several years of use. I also tried on a pair of new Lefebvre EFlex 5.9 full right gloves (the last CCM gloves that Lefebvre produced), and they were impossible to open or close from the get-go. By contrast, an new Bauer Reactor 3000 opened and closed like a charm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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