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There's some baselayers that have cup inserts and velcro tabs. So they'll accomplish essentially what I think you're after. I know my Oneric has a jock insert. Man, it's too bad they went out of business, I really liked their shit.

There's some baselayers out there that incorporate those already: https://www.thehockeyshop.com/products/bauer-elite-senior-goalie-padded-pants My Onerirc has them as well. The typical ywllo jock shorts would work fine, just depends on what else you wear with them. I'd imagine a base layer, shorts, then goalie jock would just be a lot of bulk.

Yea, I see True's pad offerings as a refinement of the current trends and their pads are designed well and work. I'm wanting to reference big shifts in brand popularity in terms of how gear evolves and, despite True just exploding with Pros/Amateurs, it's not because they're offering anything new to the market that has drastically shifted customer expectations/desires. It really is a legacy coup due to the designer name. True's popularity is the Stanley cups of the goalie world. Plus their gloves are still antiquated. Pro's. Pro's wearing your gear has a much bigger market influence than seeing what your buddies are wearing. Especially as adoption rates are heavily tied to NHL presence. Once you get kids in your gear for a long enough time, it's difficult for them to "stray" to other brands unless there's a large market shift like I mentioned above. Plus, how often do you see kids snuff Warrior gear solely because there's no NHL presence?

And I agree with this too. Biggest issue with Vaughn right now is that they need to offer something unique that will draw new clientele over. Because they've been chasing for so long, what they're offering is nothing different than what is already out there and people won't just switch. CCM had two stages of getting people invested. RBK P1 was the first really popular stiff pad and that was unique and offered a new style of play. Then came the Eflex line that blended the Premier with a softer profile from Vaughn. This was a huge line when it released as is drew people in from Vaughn and Bauer as it was an evolution to the pads they were currently using. Then Bauer changed the landscape again with the Od1n line and it's effects from the 1S are still seen today. Super fast sliding, stiff core, hot rebounds, etc. The Lefevre/True revolution isn't something I'm putting too much market influence on. That one felt more like a popularity contest than anything. Their market offerings are still good and within expectations. But they're not really driving the industry forward. (IMO). I'm summarizing greatly with the above, but these are kind of the key notes for brand popularity that I've witnessed over my time I've actually been paying close attention.

There's a lot to this question that goes over a large period of time in goalie gear. There's an entire case study that can be done in regards to how Vaughn came in with the infamous V1's and how that changed the landscape of goalie gear to the point we're at now. But, to put it succinctly: Vaughn was caught resting on their laurels after taking over the market with the V1's. They got complacent and other brands brought more enticing types of gear than what Vaughn was offering.

My ARS on my RGT1 ended up giving me some issues on my MCL on my right leg due to the tension and getting run into a few too many times. I was sidelined for about two weeks to let it heal up. I could still play, just took the safe route. Shortly after was when I switched to Pro Laces and they were massively looser. I can definitely see some bungee systems not being the "cure" that is generally raved about, but even the worse ones won't cause whatever is happening here.

It's either Bauer or Warrior pads, they both have tighter elastic systems than most. But at the same time, they both have enough give that no one's foot should be pointing upwards... I'm going to jump to conclusions and say that this is due to user error somehow.

Shirt is just a whatever workout shirt from Amazon. Pants are the Oneric Goalie base layer, which you can no longer buy. They come with cut resistant ankle section and are padded on the backside of the legs. They've been excellent and when I heard they were going out of business, I went out and bought a backup pair. Currently on my second set and have one more to go. Not sure what I'll do once these are worn out.

Looks like the paddle wedge glove https://www.thehockeyshop.com/products/paddle-wedge-trinity-senior-padded-inner-glove

I'd vote being Vaughn. Seeing one of the most prolific brands in hockey slowly wane away has got to be frustrating. At least with CCM it was a quick break due to a singular factor. They get to essentially start fresh and figure out what they want to provide. Vaughn is chasing trends.

Really shows Vaughn's fall from grace. This was what, 2 years before the 1S entered the show? https://www.geargeek.com/position/goalie/pads Not sure if this webpage is accurate or not, but let's pretend it is. True: 33 Bauer: 19 Vaughn: 12 CCM: 5 Brians: 4 True obviously took all the CCM guys and then some. Even some Bauer and Vaughn guys switched eventually (korpisalo/Merzlerkin). But the trend to move over to stiffer pads is apparent. Hell, even the Bauer in the graphic you used is their reactor line and not the Supreme.

Just smoked them out of the water eh? Congrats. May want to tell buddy in the back that the Skullet was never cool.

I barely have time to skim through my LiveBarn footage. I couldn't imagine even toying with the idea to do that for house league. Does the coach have all the kids sit and watch game footage for strategies? How effective is any of this really?

That's hilarious. I feel like travel AAA teams aren't even this awful.

I'm genuinely curious why you guys believe that Pro's are getting an entirely different product line of gloves? As for the topic at hand, only glove I had an issue with after buying new was my Vaughn SLR. Aside from that I've never encountered any issues with breaking in new gloves. RGT, RGT2, CCM 2.9, Mach, G6. I know Warrior's are the absolute king for breaking in quickly, but even with my CCM and Mach I had zero issues taking them into game action immediately. I don't do any other break in processes aside from the standard opening and closing.

I stare at a medium screen for work, then I stare at a small screen while I have a big screen on after work. That's helping right?

Brian's is still king of custom, so if the off the shelf pads aren't doing it for you, you can easily get them to build a more suited pad. Not really going to get that from the other guys unless you're talented. Unfortunately, none of us meet that threshold lol

I've got a pair of 'M' series sticks I've been holding on to until my current V2 breaks. It's been years and is barely holding on, but I still can't shelve it prematurely.

Aggressive pre-curve is slowly being phased out from most pads. Brians has the "Z" shape, which is different as you get a more aggressive bend before and after the knee. It does the same job. For a more classic "s" shape curve, you'll be wanting to look into the V10 Pro (not Pro Carbon), 3X, and Hyperlite 2. Bauer's line up goes from "S" shape at it's softest (Hyperlite/3X) and gets straighter as you go up in stiffness. Vaughn has recently beefed up the V10 pro Carbon thighrise, so getting the S curve will be tougher, but the senior level pad won't have the same carbon infused rigidity and has a more classic profile as well.

Cut of an 1" from the toe ties and I bet this problem goes away almost completely.

V series is the stiff stick, M series is the soft one. He's saying he prefers the soft feel of his eflex sticks over the V series.

It was mostly to show that the thighrises were identical

Here's my 33 ultrasonics and rgt2s together. Borg brands are +1.5 thighrises

Hank in a Brian's C/A. Dude has always been in a Vaughn, I wonder if playing with Shesterkin had some influence?

I'm in the same size Bauer (33) as I have been in Warrior rgt, rgt2, and G5. The g6/7 supposedly runs taller. I've been advised I'd be in a 32" now.