TheGoalNet Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 A company is thinking about launching a base layer. They wanted some feedback from us. Please vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Perfect timing! My base layer knee pads are starting to wear out and I don't really want the full on bulky knee pads. Here's what I wear: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mroy31 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I voted for all around the knee and no to groin/thigh. The main reason that ties into both is that with the different shapes/sizes of people, if you make padding too localized/specific, it doesn't necessarily sit in the same spot for a lot of people. Adding to that, if you have specific knee landing padding and groin padding, making one sit in the preferred spot may pull the other ones out of that preferred spot. That's based on personal preference and experience with the Bauer padded base layer, was always fighting the thigh padding to keep the knee padding in the right spot, the thigh padding affected the stretch and fit of the thighs. I say all over protection for the knee not so much for protection from pucks, just this idea of making it bigger for more dynamic landing comfort and so it doesn't feel like you're landing on the edge of padding. That being said, if you've got a way to add the thigh/groin padding in a way that doesn't affect positioning of the knee padding, I wouldn't turn that down at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I voted for minimal in both categories. Design wise, I’ve usually trended towards the less overbuilt/overengineered stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dstew29 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 second what @Chenner29 said. 1S knee pads and under armour grippy hockey base layer works great for me. Has velcro tabs for socks which is huge plus and regular cup pocket for those that go goalie cup over standard cup. Only thing I sometimes think about is extra cut protection. That's probably the only added feature i'd be interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, dstew29 said: second what @Chenner29 said. 1S knee pads and under armour grippy hockey base layer works great for me. Has velcro tabs for socks which is huge plus and regular cup pocket for those that go goalie cup over standard cup. Only thing I sometimes think about is extra cut protection. That's probably the only added feature i'd be interested in. Check out the Oneric Genesis. That's basically exactly what your asking for and I recently reviewed it. Sounds like you don't need a new product, haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Chenner29 said: I voted for minimal in both categories. Design wise, I’ve usually trended towards the less overbuilt/overengineered stuff. Yeah, I don't wear a padded one now. If I were to get one, I'd only want the knee landing area one. I don't think a padded base layer is for everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itis121 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 hours ago, ThatCarGuy said: Perfect timing! My base layer knee pads are starting to wear out and I don't really want the full on bulky knee pads. Here's what I wear: did your poron rip through the gunmetal rubberish parts like mine did? thing is I have the pants version and also have the poron break in multiple spots around the knee. I use them for when I use thigh wraps (may be the reason the poron broke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, itis121 said: did your poron rip through the gunmetal rubberish parts like mine did? thing is I have the pants version and also have the poron break in multiple spots around the knee. I use them for when I use thigh wraps (may be the reason the poron broke) Nope. The elastic's starting to get worn out. It's not really a compression knee pad anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 hours ago, dstew29 said: second what @Chenner29 said. 1S knee pads and under armour grippy hockey base layer works great for me. Has velcro tabs for socks which is huge plus and regular cup pocket for those that go goalie cup over standard cup. Only thing I sometimes think about is extra cut protection. That's probably the only added feature i'd be interested in. Thanks for bringing this up. Grippy knees would be nice. My current base layers have no grip and no padding. I feel like more features = more maintenance or more potential issues. Padding can fall out or deform. I am wearing the 1X knees with garter, which has the plastic tabs for socks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG35 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 In a set of base layer pants... no additional padding whatsoever. Would consider the cup pocket and maybe some aramid fibre in the lower leg, but that’s about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, CG35 said: In a set of base layer pants... no additional padding whatsoever. Would consider the cup pocket and maybe some aramid fibre in the lower leg, but that’s about it... Per earlier comments, this product already exists. Lots of choices if you are just looking for tights with a cup pouch or sock velcro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Chenner29 said: Thanks for bringing this up. Grippy knees would be nice. My current base layers have no grip and no padding. I feel like more features = more maintenance or more potential issues. Padding can fall out or deform. I am wearing the 1X knees with garter, which has the plastic tabs for socks. This suggestion has already been made to the company asking for support. The main area they want feedback on is how much padding is just "right" If anyone had another ideas, like this grip, feel free to share them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I think a 1/8” thick, single, non-segmented layer across the inside of the knee would be ideal for me. Too thick and you’ll have stability issues. Circular would be ideal but difficult to execute due to a range in knee heights. A rectangular piece may be best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I hate knee padding. I don't wear it, at all. I find them all to be way too bulky and they don't mesh well with my goal shorts. The one I would have liked to have tried but just never got around to it was the Maltese since they were so minimalist. With that said, I would be open to trying something like this. I voted for extra protection for pucks(as long as it is not over kill) and no thigh groin as I don't find that necessary. Good luck to whatever company this is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPv6Freely Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Not for me. No interest in padding on the knees or thighs, and I cut the cup pocket out of the tights I already wear anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old but slow Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 1:19 PM, ThatCarGuy said: Perfect timing! My base layer knee pads are starting to wear out and I don't really want the full on bulky knee pads. Here's what I wear: This in the pant version with the sock tabs , with or without inner thigh padding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 27 minutes ago, old but slow said: This in the pant version with the sock tabs , with or without inner thigh padding. I feel like this design needs another couple segments for the knee landing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old but slow Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 38 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said: I feel like this design needs another couple segments for the knee landing I have the NG elite pant and never had an issue. just can't find a spare/ replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted February 7, 2019 Author Share Posted February 7, 2019 Giving this a bump... any new opinions or votes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordOfTheCrease Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Zenkai Sports - https://zenkaisports.com/ SHOP: - https://zenkaisports.com/the-zenkai-shop/ HOCKEY COMPRESSION VELCRO TIGHT (WITH CUP) REVOLUTIONARY FILIUM ACTIVATED FABRIC: Keeps sweat ON THE SKIN to regulate body temperature like mother nature intended, all while protecting you from the outside elements without sacrificing breathability. NEXT GENERATION ANTI-ODOR SYSTEM: Prevents the growth of odor-causing microbes wear after wear. We’ll go head to head with anyone, you pick the place and time. QUICK DRY FABRIC: Dries 40% faster than synthetic material. Double headers are your new best friend. ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY: 92% of our garment is bio-degradable by nature unlike synthetic fabric which is not. What’s in your closet? COMPRESSION FIT: Provides enhanced muscle support and a locked-in feel. Get right OR get left. Zenkai garments are styled to fit tight to your body. Please order a size up if you prefer a more Relaxed Fit. REINFORCED 3-D LOOP SOCK ADJUSTERS: Keeps your socks in place even when you get toe dragged. INCLUDES HARD CUP WITH SOFT LINER: For maximum protection and comfort so you can enjoy your weekend. ANATOMICALLY ENGINEERED WAISTBAND: Sits on your hips where it belongs, just like the feeling of a pass on the tape. STRATEGICALLY PLACED FLAT-LOCK SEAMS: Helps eliminate chafing and seam stacking. The only friction you’ll deal with is with your coach. LOCKER LOOP: On interior neck for easy hang. Your equipment manager is going to love you. NAME/NUMBER BADGE: On interior neck for easy player identification. Minimizing identify theft in locker rooms everywhere. MAIN BODY FABRIC: 92% Cotton / 8% Spandex / 100% FULL THROTTLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULTIMA Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 7 hours ago, TheGoalNet said: Giving this a bump... any new opinions or votes? All I have to add is if someone comes up with a lower baselayer that has velcro for your socks, gel padding for your knees like the older Bauer version and is a cooilng wick away material, it'll be a slam dunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motowngoalie Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I voted padding all over the knee, and yes to groin/thigh padding. That combo with a cup pocket would be awesome. Another thing I'd love to see added to goalie specific pants would be two straps on the front (seatbelt material with velcro maybe?) to hold up kneepads and eliminate a garter. I'm looking at modding my baselayer right now for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 11 hours ago, LordOfTheCrease said: Zenkai Sports - https://zenkaisports.com/ SHOP: - https://zenkaisports.com/the-zenkai-shop/ HOCKEY COMPRESSION VELCRO TIGHT (WITH CUP) REVOLUTIONARY FILIUM ACTIVATED FABRIC: Keeps sweat ON THE SKIN to regulate body temperature like mother nature intended, all while protecting you from the outside elements without sacrificing breathability. NEXT GENERATION ANTI-ODOR SYSTEM: Prevents the growth of odor-causing microbes wear after wear. We’ll go head to head with anyone, you pick the place and time. QUICK DRY FABRIC: Dries 40% faster than synthetic material. Double headers are your new best friend. ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY: 92% of our garment is bio-degradable by nature unlike synthetic fabric which is not. What’s in your closet? COMPRESSION FIT: Provides enhanced muscle support and a locked-in feel. Get right OR get left. Zenkai garments are styled to fit tight to your body. Please order a size up if you prefer a more Relaxed Fit. REINFORCED 3-D LOOP SOCK ADJUSTERS: Keeps your socks in place even when you get toe dragged. INCLUDES HARD CUP WITH SOFT LINER: For maximum protection and comfort so you can enjoy your weekend. ANATOMICALLY ENGINEERED WAISTBAND: Sits on your hips where it belongs, just like the feeling of a pass on the tape. STRATEGICALLY PLACED FLAT-LOCK SEAMS: Helps eliminate chafing and seam stacking. The only friction you’ll deal with is with your coach. LOCKER LOOP: On interior neck for easy hang. Your equipment manager is going to love you. NAME/NUMBER BADGE: On interior neck for easy player identification. Minimizing identify theft in locker rooms everywhere. MAIN BODY FABRIC: 92% Cotton / 8% Spandex / 100% FULL THROTTLE. The company looking for support wants padding... This is not padded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordOfTheCrease Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 13 hours ago, TheGoalNet said: The company looking for support wants padding... This is not padded Just sharing an alternative in base layers some may not have heard of. I myself will be getting the LS Top when I find the time to test it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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