G5 Toe Elastic Tab

[Ross]

Just got my custom G5 pads and decided to make some tabs to attach my elastic toe laces to. I prefer to have the elastic laces attach at at point that is directly in line with the front of my skate as I find I can use less tension in the elastic, which is easier on the body and yet the pad rotates back in place consistently.  I made the same sort of thing for my G3 pads and it worked great for me for 3 years.

I made the tabs from some hard plastic, out of an old knee pad, some  Jenpro and some lacing. I laced the tabs through the 2 front holes and through the larger circular hole and one of the slits. I put a piece of plastic on the inside where the the lacing went through the larger circular hole and the slit to make the attachments more secure.

Here are the pictures of the parts,tab attached to the pad and skate attached to the elastic laces. 

[coopaloop1234]

Looks almost like it came with the pads.

[Ross]

I had some grey Jenpro from the knee pad attachments inside my Warrior pants.

[coopaloop1234]

47 minutes ago, Ross said:

I had some grey Jenpro from the knee pad attachments inside my Warrior pants.

I figured it came from a Warrior product. It's identical.

[mikemc620]

I need to do something like this to my pads. I am not a fan of the stock strap and I do not like they way my pro laces fit attached directly on the pad. I probably should have ordered the TGN spec if I would gave known. 

[WONGER]

7 hours ago, mikemc620 said:

I need to do something like this to my pads. I am not a fan of the stock strap and I do not like they way my pro laces fit attached directly on the pad. I probably should have ordered the TGN spec if I would gave known. 

What does that look like? I wish the strap system would have been pushed to damn near ice side of the pad, I'm not sure loosening up a ton is the best. 

[TheGoalNet]

For Warrior users, who like the stock toe ties? This seems like a common request year after year?

[Teezle]

38 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said:

For Warrior users, who like the stock toe ties? This seems like a common request year after year?

I liked the stock toe ties on the G2 pads, but the G5 ones are: 1) tighter feeling and 2) less accessible than those ones.

[mikemc620]

On 6/26/2020 at 10:58 AM, TheGoalNet said:

For Warrior users, who like the stock toe ties? This seems like a common request year after year?

I’m not a huge fan of the stock ones. My hips have been bothering me a lot more since I’ve been using my G5’s. 

On 6/25/2020 at 5:55 PM, WONGER said:

What does that look like? I wish the strap system would have been pushed to damn near ice side of the pad, I'm not sure loosening up a ton is the best. 

this is the only picture I have from when I attached them. I never played with them attached and when I put them on at home. They wouldn’t stay attached around the toe and rode back far around the toe cap of my skate (similar to how they go from the bottom of the skate and Velcro on the laces). 

[mikemc620]

On 6/19/2020 at 5:00 PM, Ross said:

Just got my custom G5 pads and decided to make some tabs to attach my elastic toe laces to. I prefer to have the elastic laces attach at at point that is directly in line with the front of my skate as I find I can use less tension in the elastic, which is easier on the body and yet the pad rotates back in place consistently.  I made the same sort of thing for my G3 pads and it worked great for me for 3 years.

I made the tabs from some hard plastic, out of an old knee pad, some  Jenpro and some lacing. I laced the tabs through the 2 front holes and through the larger circular hole and one of the slits. I put a piece of plastic on the inside where the the lacing went through the larger circular hole and the slit to make the attachments more secure.

Here are the pictures of the parts,tab attached to the pad and skate attached to the elastic laces. 

Do you have any idea how thick the plastic is that you are using?

[benner33]

I managed to tie one TGN spec pro lace the way I wanted (I’m the two holes) but gave up on the other one (which came loose at my first pickup) and used a zip tie. It worked ok during a goalie drills camp. I might spend more time with it though. 
 

I didn’t give the stock ones a try because I feel the pro laces have more give and I can wire them further back on my skate. They just feel more comfortable to me. Maybe I’ll give the longer stock ones (they are longer than my G4 ones) a shot to see. 

[Ross]

@mikemc620, I used 1.5mm plastic.

[mikemc620]

On 7/13/2020 at 6:19 PM, Ross said:

@mikemc620, I used 1.5mm plastic.

I think I have everything I need to try and make these for myself to use my Pro Laces. 
 

[benner33]

1 hour ago, mikemc620 said:

I think I have everything I need to try and make these for myself to use my Pro Laces. 
 

Please post the process you end up using. I have the same pad wrap and TGN Pro Laces and I’d love to make something similar to @Ross 

[Ross]

I can post some more detailed pictures in the next day or so if it would help for making them.

[dreadlocked1]

Yes please!

[Ross]

Here’s some instructions on how I made the tabs for my G5 pads.

First cut out the 2 plastic parts and a piece of Jenpro. I used a drill to make the holes in the plastic parts. The holes on mine are all 1/8” as I use 1/8”cord  and 1/8” shock cord my elastics. If you use larger shock cord then the 2 holes at the top of the tab will have to be larger to match.

Fold the piece of Jenpro in half and sew along the 2 side edges.

Insert the tab into the Jenpro and use a pen to locate the holes in the tab.

Remove the tab and then punch out the holes in the Jenpro. I used a piece of 1/8” brass tubing as a punch.

Fold/ bend the tab 90 degrees 1” up from the bottom end. Depending on the plastic that you use you may have to heat it slightly with a heat gun to get the fold to stay.

Reinsert the tab back into the Jenpro and sew the bottom edge closed.

[Ross]

Here’s the steps to attach the tab to the pad.

Remove the ARS strap and tuck the plastic fitting back into the hole.

To make the 1/8” cord easier to install I put some Zap glue on one end for about 3” as this makes the cord hard so you can push it into place. I also use a pair of needle nose pliers to grab the end of the cord.

Starting on the left pad, pass the end of the cord through the left hole in the tab.

Insert the cord through the small left hole on the pad and then run the cord out the the slot on the right. Pass the cord through the left hole in the backing plate and then feed the cord back inside til it comes out of the large hole on the left.

Feed the cord through the other left hole in the tab and then go through the opposite hole on the right of the tab and then feed the cord through the slot in the pad and then through the other hole in the backing plate.

Then feed the cord out through the small right hole and then through the other right hole on the tab.

Pull the cord tight and make sure that the backing plate is fully inserted.

Tie the cord using a reef knot and then put a couple of drops of the Zap glue on the knot to keep the knot from loosening.  Trim off the excess cord.

I hope this makes sense.

[dreadlocked1]

You are awesome.  Thank you!

[StevenC]

@Ross That is incredible!!  Fantastic work!!

It's disappointing that Warrior don’t make the change to Pro Laces (or other toe tie options) easier and kind off handcuff you to their system!

[ArdeFIN]

Is this flap actually needed if you don't like that idea? Just use a short skatelace instead and add your choice of Pro Laces or whatever elastics to them. As a simplest solution of all.

Next gen would be adding a normal toe bridge with lace and then it's all like before. 

But nevertheless needs extra building on what should be ready to go. I'm not at all fan of this type of telling customer what to do with their new purchases.

[StevenC]

1 hour ago, ArdeFIN said:

Is this flap actually needed if you don't like that idea? Just use a short skatelace instead and add your choice of Pro Laces or whatever elastics to them. As a simplest solution of all.

Next gen would be adding a normal toe bridge with lace and then it's all like before. 

But nevertheless needs extra building on what should be ready to go. I'm not at all fan of this type of telling customer what to do with their new purchases.

I'm thinking about the Warriors but as an 'older' goalie the toe ties are important as they help relieve stress on the old man joints (Knees, ankles and hips)

The flap and the reinforcements offered by the plastic is (i would assume) to avoid over stressing the 2 small holes that they are laced to the pad through and potentially ripping that part of the pad.

They are great if you love the stock toe system, but for a brand new model of pad, they should be easier to custom the toe option than making something as cool as Ross has or running the risk of tearing through the holes or adding key chain loops or anything else.

[coopaloop1234]

1 hour ago, StevenC said:

I'm thinking about the Warriors but as an 'older' goalie the toe ties are important as they help relieve stress on the old man joints (Knees, ankles and hips)

The flap and the reinforcements offered by the plastic is (i would assume) to avoid over stressing the 2 small holes that they are laced to the pad through and potentially ripping that part of the pad.

They are great if you love the stock toe system, but for a brand new model of pad, they should be easier to custom the toe option than making something as cool as Ross has or running the risk of tearing through the holes or adding key chain loops or anything else.

If you're ok with an "older" pad. All the previous iterations of Warrior pads didn't have to rely on you creating your own toe bridge as they come with one.

[mikemc620]

Does anyone have any idea what would be the best type of plastic to use for this? I tried one that snapped in half when I tried to bend it at all and I’ve tried looking in store and haven’t found anything that I think is flexible enough. 

[dreadlocked1]

Uhmw poly sheeting is what I would try.  Grainger or Mcmastercarr would have stock online.