TheGoalNet Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Going to start researching and trying to make sense of the HECC process... please let me if you have additional questions I should consider? 1. Lehman’s explanation of the process 2. Definition of safety for the helmet process 3. How has the process evolved over time 4. Has material make up been considered as something to consider for goalie helmets 5. Has there been considereation to make to the process more accessible to smaller companies 6. It’s a consensus that fit is key to in helmet safety, why are custom fit helmets excluded 7. Has HECC considered approving shells instead of the padding. There should be some accountability on the consumer and seller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAngle41 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said: Going to start researching and trying to make sense of the HECC process... please let me if you have additional questions I should consider? 1. Lehman’s explanation of the process 2. Definition of safety for the helmet process 3. How has the process evolved over time 4. Has material make up been considered as something to consider for goalie helmets 5. Has there been considereation to make to the process more accessible to smaller companies 6. It’s a consensus that fit is key to in helmet safety, why are custom fit helmets excluded 7. Has HECC considered approving shells instead of the padding. There should be some accountability on the consumer and seller 5.1 What costs are involved with HECC certification? How many examples must be provided for testing etc.? 7.1 Has HECC considered approving replacement (non-OEM) padding? (wink to Maltese etc.) 8. Why did they institute expiration dates and how was 6.5 years decided upon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 9. Why is your process such a crock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, SaveByRichter35 said: 9. Why is your process such a crock? Because that is really going to make a potentially tense interview smoother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullright Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 7a: Why not? It would help non expert parents decide whether to buy their child one made of plastic, fiberglass, or Kevlar. 8: What is their position, if any, on how the shell is made? IE, is there an approved methodology to the manufacturing process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 55 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said: Because that is really going to make a potentially tense interview smoother! It was just a joke. Sheesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 I know @SaveByRichter35 , that's why I gave the sarcastic response back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 Also, anyone have additional questions to add? Need to submit them today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPv6Freely Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I'd like to know how they are able to certify a plastic mask. Or, more accurately, why they do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Would a gold-plated turd masque made by one of the bigs have a good chance of passing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naz Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Do they consider the flex/rigidity of the mask? For example, will this mask keep your head from getting squashed like a grape if a 200 pound guy falls on you in the crease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanG Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Do they look at strapping and how that affects the effectiveness of the mask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KootenayKeeper Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 FYI, as a backgrounder, here's a link to the HECC testing standard: http://www.hecc.net/prodtest.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Okay... Questions are sent!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc30 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 On 11/16/2017 at 3:28 PM, TheGoalNet said: 5. Has there been considereation to make to the process more accessible to smaller companies 6. It’s a consensus that fit is key to in helmet safety, why are custom fit helmets excluded 7. Has HECC considered approving shells instead of the padding. There should be some accountability on the consumer and seller 5. It's accessible to anyone willing to spend the amount of cash to have the testing done. Smaller companies aren't going to be able to get the same level of retail penetration as CCM and Bauer, so it isn't worth the cost to be certified, when you can sell to adults who don't need the sticker at a price that isn't inflated by passing on the testing costs. Each size of mask needs to be tested, so if you plan to offer Jr and S/M/L/XL shells, it's 5x the testing fee. 6. Once a specific shell/padding/cage combination passes testing, only the reproduction of that identical shell/padding/cage is certified. Because each custom mask will have a differently shaped shell, it isn't the "same" as the one that was tested, even if the same manufacturing method is used. 7. They test the total package. Testing individual components isn't particularly instructive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 The email is in the contact at HECC already Unfortunately, no response yet. They did initially agree to the interview, so let's hope something comes up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said: The email is in the contact at HECC already Unfortunately, no response yet. They did initially agree to the interview, so let's hope something comes up!!! Maybe they read this forum and now want to stay cloistered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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